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Struggling to Cope

35 replies

JamesKG · 05/12/2021 22:55

My girlfriend and I broke up two weeks ago. To say it was a surprise would be an understatement. I genuinely thought we were set for life until the moment she left. Sorry this message will be long but also very baffling for anyone who reads it I would imagine. I would really appreciate it if people did read it then replied as I'm at a total loss.

Before I get into all that a little about her past as I feel it's important. Two years ago her husband told her he didn't love her anymore and it was over. She had to move half way across the country to come back to her Mum with their then 1 year old child, leaving most of her possessions and her job behind. He left her with nothing, in financial ruin and she later found out he had been cheating on her with a girl half their age. She then spent a year living with her Mum (who suffers from depression) and toddler in a small two bed apartment in an area which wasn't very nice. Covid also hit around that time so she ended up depressed and taking strong medication which she still takes to this day. She may actually be feeling worse now as she's on a waiting list to see a psychiatrist.

Skip forward 8 months from her 7 year relationship break up and she meets me. Everything is great, we rush into things too quickly, although not thinking about it much at the time. Our first date was end of August 2020, we then moved in together at the start of February 2021. Everything is still amazing between us. We enjoy trips away, we very rarely argue and when we do, they're more like discussions which are sorted instantly. We have two kids who live with us, her now 3 year old toddler and my 9 year old daughter. They get on like brother and sister and love each other. I do everything for her, I'm a father figure to her son, I give her compliments every day and try my best for her always. In September of this year we move again after issues with the last house, now we're in a near perfect home for our budget, she loves it, I love it and the kids love it. She now has a job again after not being able to work due to some kind of order on her credit caused by her ex. Nothing could be better between us. Of course, her depression is still around and she has bouts of crying or feeling worthless, but I always try do my best for her. We seem to be set for life then one night, only two and a half months into living in our dream home together, she randomly tells me she's not happy, hasn't been happy for awhile and gets her brother to pick her up at 10pm, taking her 3 year old son with her and doesn't return.

Obviously I'm in complete shock. It makes no sense. There were no signs of this at all, there have been no issues between us, I haven't started treating her any differently and she hasn't been treating me any differently. Everything was perfect and she has walked away from it all. I can only put it down to her depression as there simply is no other logical explanation for it. That or we rushed into things, which also seems a logical explanation. She's been planning her future with me up to the day she left though. Telling my daughter we'd take her on holiday next year, making plans for her 40th in a years time, talking about our future, mortgage, holidays, etc. She also told me she loved me two days before leaving me.

So now fast forward two weeks and I'm still at a complete loss, especially with everything that has happened since. Ever since we broke up she's been very receptive whenever I've wanted to talk, which I have tried to keep to a minimum. Numerous occasions over these past two weeks she's told me how deeply she cares about me, how no one has loved or treated her as well as me and how none of this is my fault, how I did everything for her and didn't do a thing wrong. She's also said on numerous occasions how she wants us to stay in touch. If I'm all those things why has she left me!?

I stupidly went snooping for answers a few days ago and found out her ex husband, since finding out we broke up, has told her he wants to try again. The worst part is, she is actually considering it and has spoke to a friend about them maybe going to counseling. When I questioned her about it naturally I was the last person she wanted to talk to about the situation, but one thing she said that stood out was something about how she owes it to their son to try. Really? The guy who literally ruined her life, cheated on her and caused her depression in the first place maybe deserves a second chance, yet the guy, who in her own words, has been the best boyfriend they could be gets ditched? How am I supposed to make sense of that?

After finding out about her ex I asked her to pick up her stuff from our house. Until yesterday, two weeks after leaving, almost every she owns was still here. I also remove our relationship status from Facebook and change my photo back to just me. After I did that she deactivates her account. This was her decision though? Anyway, Saturday she picks up her stuff while I'm out, it would be too painful me being here. She agrees to me coming over when she's done though. So I turn up, say a few things to her about how much I love her, biggest mistake of her life, etc and we kiss, we hug, a proper hug where neither wanted to leave go and then she leaves. I also notice she has ripped out of a notepad a note I wrote her, she's took it with her. It just said about how I've packed a few things for her etc but why take it with her, a memento of the last thing I've wrote to her?

Anyway I thought that would be it, I'd leave her for a few weeks to give her space and see what happens after that. As I mentioned earlier though we have two kids, and my daughter is really upset missing the boy she sees as her little brother. This happens the same day my now ex girlfriend takes her things. I can't do this to my daughter anymore so I contact my ex, tell her that I had no intention of contacting her but my daughter is so desperate to see her son I can't just do nothing. My thoughts when contacting her were for my ex to maybe look after my daughter every so often so the kids could see each other. Maybe it's a stupid idea but I didn't know what else to do. I was feeling helpless and so bad for my daughter. The kids love each other and they've done nothing wrong. Anyway I contact my ex, tell her how my daughter is and ask what can we do and she immediately suggests the four of us meeting up next weekend, even suggests she would have the very next day if she wasn't busy. Really? She's suggesting the 4 of us meet up the very same day she leaves with all of her stuff from our house!? My head by this point is about to explode.

I really don't know what to make of this and it's tearing me apart. Firstly she leaves me out of nowhere when she finally has the stability in her life shes needed for so long. After leaving me she's still texting or speaking to me whenever I contact her, not once seemingly having any issues with us being in touch. She's hugging me every time I see her, telling me how much she cares for me, all the while possibly getting back with her cheating ex husband who ruined her life, while making plans to meet up with me and the kids like a happy family!?

Maybe she's being so nice as she feels really guilty due to me not doing anything wrong, she also feels really guilty towards my daughter who is also hurting. Maybe she's torn and doesn't know what she wants. I just don't know what to think, but I don't understand why she's now suggested us meeting up next weekend? That can't be a one time thing and she knows it, the kids will wants to see each other more and more. She also knows what that'll do to me if nothing comes of it. She also knows it's surely not possible to keep that up if we don't get back together. So what am I even supposed to make of not only this, but her behaviour as a whole over the past two weeks!?

OP posts:
Squeezyhug · 07/12/2021 09:31

Be kind to yourself and get counselling.

You need to be strong for your daughter going forward do she doesn’t end up messed up as well.

As much as you care for this woman you need to break free otherwise you will be forcing your daughter to be involved with an abuser ( Ex H)

Are you happy to drop your daughter off at his house so they can look after her while she has contact with the little boy?

Your daughter is young and will move on easily from this if you allow her.
She will be picking up emotional cues from you.
If you seem devastated so will she.
If you seem upbeat, so will she.

JamesKG · 07/12/2021 10:11

[quote Tittyfilarious81]@JamesKG you sound like you've had it tough too over the years and so has she then the 2 of you got together and both had past trauma so I can see how the relationship moved quickly for you both . You've mentioned in your past relationship you split and got back together many times so that I think explains why you seem willing to keep hope alive that she may change her mind , but that's no good for you op ,if the ex is back on the scene she's probably confused over what she wants and so she's left you why she decides . It's up to you what you want to do but honestly I think it would be better for you to let her go as hard as that will be for you and your daughter I think it will be harder in the long run to just be waiting for her to decide what she wants it puts your life on hold and that's will be no good for you both.[/quote]
It would be better to let her go, and I will but not just yet. I think waiting a few more weeks to see what happens won't do much more damage than her leaving already has. I won't let this go on for months, that would be a lot more damaging, but a few weeks won't cause me much more pain than I'm already in.

Part of my problem is I work from home, so while my daughter is at school I'm sitting going over all of this non stop in my head for 6 1/2 hours each day. Then three nights a week my daughter stays at her Mams, leaving me here alone once again to go over everything non stop in my head. She left two weeks yesterday, and since then I've only seen three people minus my daughter, my Mum twice and a friend one night. I'm on my own too much so all of this is consuming my life.

I tried keeping myself occupied last night by doing some deliveries I occasionally do in my spare time, and of the literally 20-30 towns I could have been sent to, I get sent to the town we lived in together before this house, and just to top it off, I even had deliveries to the same street we lived in. It sometimes feels like nothing is going my way at the moment.

It almost annoys me that, while I'm on my own all the time, my ex will have barely any time to think things over. She works in a school for autistic kids, so her days are non stop and very tiring. Then she goes home to her Mum as well as her toddler who is very needy of her and will not leave her alone until he goes to bed. While her days are packed I'm the one on my own having to go over things in my head non stop, yet she is the one who has caused all this.

OP posts:
JamesKG · 07/12/2021 10:16

@Squeezyhug

Be kind to yourself and get counselling.

You need to be strong for your daughter going forward do she doesn’t end up messed up as well.

As much as you care for this woman you need to break free otherwise you will be forcing your daughter to be involved with an abuser ( Ex H)

Are you happy to drop your daughter off at his house so they can look after her while she has contact with the little boy?

Your daughter is young and will move on easily from this if you allow her.
She will be picking up emotional cues from you.
If you seem devastated so will she.
If you seem upbeat, so will she.

If I could get counselling within the next few days I think it would help. I know from my ex though that won't happen, she has been on a waiting list for months. I can't afford to go private when I've been left in this house on my own.

I wouldn't let my daughter be involved with him, I wouldn't want him around her at all.

We will both move on from this, but at the same time no more damage is going to be done by giving it a few weeks then what has already been done. I won't let this go on for months.

To be honest I'm not sure I will completely let her go for a very long time, even when I have moved on. It sounds like she doesn't want that either from what she has been saying. She is in a very bad place right now, her depression is pretty bad and when someone you care so much about tells you on two separate occasions that she wants to die you can't just walk away from that. I will want to know she's okay, I'll want to be there to help her, whether I still love her or not in like 6 months time.

OP posts:
Pinkdelight3 · 07/12/2021 12:29

The guy who literally ruined her life, cheated on her and caused her depression in the first place maybe deserves a second chance, yet the guy, who in her own words, has been the best boyfriend they could be gets ditched? How am I supposed to make sense of that?

My sense of this is that you have to realise that this description of her ex is how she's cast him to you. Things were obviously more complicated - just as you being 'the best boyfriend' isn't so simple. Sounds to me like there's a head and heart thing going on for her and while your 'happily ever after' set up should make the best sense on paper, in reality she's pulled back to the father of her DC for all manner of deep reasons that you cannot expect to logic her out of. I realise that this has all happened very fast - both the relationship/moving in and the ending/move it out - so understand that it's hard to let go and draw a line, but whether you continue to contact and hug each other or not, your relationship is unfortunately, irretrievably over. She chose to go and pulling her back to you won't make things any more solid. You owe it to your DD not to feed the idea of the DS being her little brother. She needs to deal with his absence and you need to set an example of how to do that. It won't be easy, but it'll be much worse stringing out the pain and uncertainty and there's no way you can look to this woman to take the lead. She's a mess and in a way you were her rebound. Don't let her keep hurting you both. Be strong, get support IRL and move on asap.

MatildaTheCat · 07/12/2021 12:54

This will possibly sound harsh but I promise it is meant kindly. Your ex wife has severe mental health issues and so does your ex girlfriend. Your poor DD has been exposed to a lot of change and trauma, including your current grieving and obsessive thoughts.

You have to clear your mind for her sake and build a solid and stable life for the two of you. Seek help from your GP if you need it, you sound as if you might. Prepare for Christmas, plan ahead for other projects and activities for the two of you.

Your ex has gone. Coming back would be damaging for your DD. She will grow up believing that relationships are transient and not to be trusted. You will all be waiting for the next ‘thing’.

I’m so sorry, it must be agonising but you met at the wrong time and formed a relationship with someone who was and is unwell. As much as you want it to be different your DD needs more and she has to be the priority.

litterbird · 07/12/2021 13:24

So sorry OP, I think you were a rebound relationship. Too fast and too soon. She may well return to her ex. As other posters have said, you need some therapy to help with your issues and to discover why you are attracted to people who a broken and have some mental health issues. Keep your child safe and away from any future relationships you have. It’s time for you to be alone and make sure your child grows up in a stable, traumatic free life that seems to have followed her.

smoko · 07/12/2021 14:08

You seem to have a view of love as being very all encompassing, both of you battling against the world together & overcoming insurmountable odds due to this intoxicating, all consuming love.

The thing is, her dropping you kind of indicates that’s how she feels about her ex, not you.

From everything you have said so far it sounds like you were a safe, stable choice but her heart is with her ex.

He hurt her badly, just like how you are hurt. When a loved one hurts you it shows how much you love them because they had the power to hurt you.

She is sadly still likely in love with her ex & you are the “Beta male” pick.

Your description of how everything was perfect & couldn’t be better, the. Launching into details about her depression & mental health struggles shows how clearly you were living in a fantasy world.

You should male but I urge you to start reading Chump Lady & baggage reclaim

Your ex wants to have their cake & eat it too. It’s that simple. You are being kept around because she may want to pick things up again later, she may not.

smoko · 07/12/2021 14:09

You sound male, sorry can’t edit!

JamesKG · 07/12/2021 14:41

@smoko

You seem to have a view of love as being very all encompassing, both of you battling against the world together & overcoming insurmountable odds due to this intoxicating, all consuming love.

The thing is, her dropping you kind of indicates that’s how she feels about her ex, not you.

From everything you have said so far it sounds like you were a safe, stable choice but her heart is with her ex.

He hurt her badly, just like how you are hurt. When a loved one hurts you it shows how much you love them because they had the power to hurt you.

She is sadly still likely in love with her ex & you are the “Beta male” pick.

Your description of how everything was perfect & couldn’t be better, the. Launching into details about her depression & mental health struggles shows how clearly you were living in a fantasy world.

You should male but I urge you to start reading Chump Lady & baggage reclaim

Your ex wants to have their cake & eat it too. It’s that simple. You are being kept around because she may want to pick things up again later, she may not.

I said everything was nearly perfect between us, her struggles with depression didn't really affect our relationship until the end and were around before she met me. How her depression affects her and how we were as a couple are two different things.

I appreciate all the replies but really some of them are not helpful at all. I'm sorry but I can't take seriously anyone who says I was a rebound, if you believe that then I haven't explained things correctly so maybe that's on me. We joined our two families together and we were planning the rest of our lives together. That was not simply in my head. I can accept sometimes things don't work out, I can also accept we rushed into things which have likely been one of the reasons I'm in this position, as well as her mental health issues (her words, not mine). I simply was no rebound though. I also never said she was getting back with her ex, I said it was a possibility, that means it may also not happen. That was also never planned or even in her mind until after we broke up.

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Pinkdelight3 · 07/12/2021 15:02

That was also never planned or even in her mind until after we broke up.

You don't know that though. You thought she was happy and planning a life together etc. She's since told you that she wasn't happy and her actions in leaving back that up. You don't actually know the truth of what she was thinking, feeling, planning - and that's really hard to accept I know. I can see you going back over it for evidence and pointing to things she says and does now as proof that she still wants this future you've invested in. But on a fundamental level, she has chosen to go. That future is a fantasy, and perhaps some of the past was too. You really can't know what she's thinking as she hardly knows herself. Her emotional turmoil is not something to be basing your family decisions on. It's sad but you have to be stronger than that for your DD and get the help that a PP mentioned to help with your attraction to these troubled women and how to process this loss in a healthy way. People aren't minimising what you had or what you're going through by calling it a rebound. But with the speed, timing and the tenure of the relationship, it fits the bill in terms of her not being over her ex, throwing her all in with you to fix things and create a new family superfast and then throwing that away when she's realised she's not ready and either wants to go back to him or needs (and most likely she does really need) time without either of you in order to get herself and her DS on an even keel.

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