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Therapist said to do this, have you and does it work?

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TreatsforY · 04/12/2021 14:21

I’ve had a few relationships like this but the last one is a prime example of it so I’m going to share that one.

We clicked on date one, had lots in common, shared sense of humour. Fancied him when we met. BUT from date one he was distant (yet intense when together), not exactly proactive with meeting up, ie we’d have a date then no indication of whether we’d meet again. He’d often say he was busy or in a busy patch. If we saw each other at a weekend he’d often shoot off at lunchtime on Sunday after arriving Saturday late pm 6ish (never said it explicitly but it was obvious). It meant we didn’t spend much time together at the start as we never met in the week. As time went on it all progressed and we’d stay 4 nights a week together but he had little interest in going away - we had a couple of short weekend breaks but all organised by me. He never made time to see my friends even my closest one who invited us for dinner a few times. It all just felt like he had one foot out of the door. That said, when together things were wonderful. I ended it after he said he had no plans or intention for us to do anything over Christmas together.

I’ve had therapy and the key thing that’s come out of it is that, for whatever reason, I go for evasive people, those who keep me working a bit …if that makes sense. I’ve been told that I need to actively choose different people and see having to chase/excitement of that as a red flag if I want a relationship with long term prospects.

So I took this advice. Met someone I sort of clicked with on the phone but also found a bit too nice. We had dinner it was very pleasant. Slightly balding and shorter than I would go for but seemed a nice man, decent job, close to his family, seemed to have lots of friends. He wanted to get a coffee after the meal so we did. When I drove home I kept thinking about how differently I had felt with people who had seemed more ‘exciting’ like with my ex, after the first date he was all I was thinking of and I didn’t want the date to end. But I was glad to get in the car after this one as I felt tired of making conversation.

Anyway he text me to arrange a other date and my therapist said I should go because there were no red flags and I had a nice enough time. He messaged to ask if I wanted to go and see a show and if so he would book tickets. This would usually panic me as it would seem like a big gesture, however when I think back to my ex, I think I would have been delighted if he’d done this (he didn’t so I have no comparison there I guess). He’s been so nice and chatty and straightforward and I just don’t know why I can’t stop this attraction to evasive people…my ex was no better looking than this guy for instance.

In summary…has anyone tried to re train themselves to meet someone and let things develop rather than jumping into something that’s exciting from the start and therefore likely to be full of toxic behaviours? I know you can have excitement without toxicity but typically I’ve found that I’m not giving the right people a go!!

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Didimum · 05/12/2021 17:16

*hooking you in

IgneousRock · 05/12/2021 18:37

I think that basically your therapist is right and you need to give nice guys a chance. Not if you really don't fancy someone, but in this case you've admitted he's just as good looking as your ex. I think give him a few more dates and see how it goes.

Maunderingdrunkenly · 05/12/2021 21:28

You seek out what you’re familiar with not what you actually need.
I’ve turned it around, I used to pick guys like that and be in the same situation.
I met my partner who was super keen and was consistent from day one, but I thought there was something wrong with him, and spent ages feeling very shut.

It took months, I remember sobbing on one date because he’d said that he woke up and was bursting to tell me he loved me, and the guilt nearly killed me because I wasn’t where he was AT ALL. After about 8 months I finally unfurled and I look at him now and love him to death! Thank god he stuck it out.

It’s consistent shitty treatment from men, in the end you don’t know how to be normally happy and you actually have to learn how.

I will never choose the shitty type again, the bloom has well and truly off the rose.

Also I read somewhere if you have a boner for someone that is ambivalent about you you have far bigger problems than dysfunctional men.

Sleepyhungryfattyanddoc · 05/12/2021 23:29

[quote TreatsforY]@ESGdance my friendships are pretty standard really. I think it’s all very equal and I don’t feel I need to prove anything.

I’m obsessed with high achieving men who have little time, it’s like I am totally at ease with this and I feel so much familiarity that I think I confuse it with real feelings. This man with this second date has been available, straightforward, etc. It was always very up and down and confusing with other people even after one date.

It’s frustrating as I get why I’m like it, just don’t know how to change it at all.[/quote]
But I don’t think they do have little time. They just have little time for you
We’re all on our phones 24/7 are you saying he can’t send a ‘how’s your day’ txt? He literally doesn’t have 3seconds in his day? That seems unlikely.

Your ex would come over for sex. That’s what was happening. It wasn’t that he didn’t have much time. It’s that if he came over Saturday evening and left Sunday he didn’t have to do much, but you’d have sex.

I think you’re confusing ‘busy’ with ‘using’
Why don’t you feel like you deserve to be someone’s priority?

PermanentTemporary · 06/12/2021 00:10

I'd completely agree with @TheFoundations. This 'you just have to decide if you want one more date' thing is fine but you must really listen to your feelings and I sometimes wonder if therapists really know everything... I had my therapist tell me it sounded like I wanted another date with a guy I'd felt actual physical revulsion for when I kissed him. It did shock me, because I liked talking to him and he seemed reasonably attractive, but I literally retched a little when I kissed him. I didn't see the guy again and I think that's right.

If you don't have much to talk about on day 1, I don't think this guy is 'the answer'.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 06/12/2021 06:36

I do agree that those who go for the bad ones need to accept that and try and be open to different types
Especially when there is a history of abuse

But , you can’t make yourself fancy someone either . It’s impossible
Hence , I’m celibate
I also have this issue and so do many of
My more single friends

No easy answers

Rittersport · 06/12/2021 18:37

I know someone who tried this after divorcing a very charming, but abusive arsehole.
She just ended up married to a boring and unintelligent abusive arsehole the next time.
I think you need to take more time to learn to recognise all the red flags for abuse and set very high boundaries.

any lies, any coercion, any jealousy, any misogyny/racism these would be the big ones for me based on what I've observed. Often they just show in tiny behaviours at first but they just come out more over time if the person basically thinks his needs are more important than yours.

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