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Was it all a lie? I’m completely broken…

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pixietinkdust · 30/11/2021 07:37

10 days ago my partner of 2 years decided it was over. Unfortunately for me, since then my entire world has been turned upside down and I’m really struggling.

For back story:
My ExPartner has some pretty horrific childhood trauma in his past, of which I’m well aware of and I know he’s been to therapy for, however something inside tells me that this is a contributing factor for what’s happened.

ExP has had previously issues with alcohol, drugs and MH struggles (suicide) - these were mainly before me and he kept them under control by using the gym as a coping mechanism.

I won’t say I’m entirely innocent here because I’m not, I have a fiery character and when I believe something is wrong I will bring it up. I never believed I could be gaslighted (this is relevant)

We were in a pub 2 weeks ago having food, he was asking what I’d like for Christmas etc, when I was answering he kept picking up his phone ( I believe it was his boss texting) and zoning out. I asked him to stop it because it was rude - and here the issue started. He lost it, shouting and screaming at me in the middle of the pub. I left immediately and told him to pay the bill.

Whilst driving home we were arguing in the car as I said his behaviour was completely unacceptable, he got so irate he pulled the steering wheel and forced me to pull over the car. He got out and walked off, still shouting and screaming. I drove alongside him and tried to reason with him to be met with “oh you’re crazy and you’re trying to run me over and kill me now” - I was doing about 5mph!

He proceeded to walk to the nearest pub, sat in there for 4 hours and drank 20 pints. When he came hone I’d fallen asleep on the sofa, I was awoken to him crashing around and then sitting staring at me and saying “I’m a psychopath you know, a psychopath and a sociopath. I have someone else who lives inside me and I call him Brian, he does bad things” - I know this sounds ridiculous but I swear it’s true. I was actually frightened by him. Eventually I got him up to bed.

The next day he refused to talk about it at all, completely shut down. This obviously caused a huge argument because I said I wouldn’t be brushing it under the carpet like some of his other outbursts. That night he went out again and didn’t come home, once again drunk.

The next morning he transferred £12,000 (exactly half) out of our savings account at 8am before I’d even spoken to him. He came home a little later and said it’s over, he doesn’t love me anymore and he’s unhappy. I’m ashamed to say I lost all dignity in this moment and most certainly begged and pleaded to attempt to reason with him. But it is over, and it’s stayed that way. From that moment he’s been a completely unrecognisable character. Callous and cruel.

If you’ve gotten this far - thank you, I didn’t intend for it to be this long!

For further info, “home” is a rented house we just signed on for 6 months and moved into the week before this happened! My property was in the final stages of completion and we were planning on moving to a forever house - the mortgage was in place and sols appointed etc so the rented house was a stop gap. I’m now back at my Mam’s with a suitcase.

He’s refused to pay anything for the house and is leaving this weekend, he has sorted another house to go to. It’s going to cost me £4k to get rid of this rental house.

He was literally the most perfect partner in the world, 95% of the time. He came along when I’d almost given up hope on finding someone compatible. He was genuine, kind, considerate, I can’t even tell you how happy I was.

My friends have since said they think I’ve been love bombed and then gaslighted.

I’ve since found out that when I met him he had only returned from London 3 weeks earlier and moved back North (where he is originally from but has been gone for 10 years); he split with another girl, packed up his whole life and moved here. Then met me - within 4 months, at his suggestion, he gave up his beautiful rented apartment and came to live with me in my house.

He’s had 14 addresses in 10 years, my Mam thinks he 100% has form for this behaviour.

He has told me since that he blames me for all of this happening, that I’m manipulative and controlling. I disagree with those things - the only thing I ever recall saying no to was him going to the gym every night if the week 530-830, I said there’s no point in having a relationship if you’re not present.

He also used to say to me that I need to go to therapy when we argued, I don’t know what for though and I never did.

In one of our final conversations he said to me “this happens all the time, in every one of my relationships, they want to stop me from doing exactly what I want to do when I want to do it”, I always said I wasn’t stopping him, but that’s a relationship. A bit of compromise on certain things.

I feel like my life has been a total lie, I have no idea what to believe was ever true. I’m completely broken down here, can’t sleep, can barely eat and I’m not coping. My whole life was there, planned, the fairytale!!! And now it’s gone. I’m 30 years old, no children, single and back at my parents house.

I have always been so independent, luckily I have good friends, an amazing family and a good job but I feel completely numb and empty inside. And the fear of him moving on immediately (which I just KNOW he will) is almost consuming me.

I feel like this is a story I would read in Chat magazine but it’s not fake, it’s actually my life and I’m so so devastated.

How do I ever get over this SadSadSadSad

OP posts:
thenewduchessofhastings · 30/11/2021 12:50

@pixietinkdust

You've had the chance to escape before you've committed fully to this man.Can you imagine what he'd be like as a father?;he'd be awful,he'd mentally check out and have left it all up to you.

His behaviour is abusive.

SunflowerTed · 30/11/2021 12:51

[quote dabbydeedoo]@todaysdilemma the guy has mental health and addiction issues! The gym was a healthy way for him to cope with those. Insinuating that he didn't want to spend time with OP because he needed to do something that was crucial for his mental health is pretty shitty. Not everyone needs to be joined at the hip and spending 24/7 together. I actually think that's stifling.[/quote]
No it’s called a healthy, mature relationship. Discussing expectations and how hobbies, friends, plans etc work for you both as a couple is what good communication and A happy relationship is all about

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pixietinkdust · 30/11/2021 12:56

@GoGoGretaDoll

Mate, every time you post he sounds worse and you sound like you are taking on more of his shit!
I laughed at this because you sound like one of my best friends. She’s so dammed angry and just can’t wait until I reach that point.

You’re right though, I am taking the blame; maybe that’s because he’s told me he blames me or maybe it’s just because it’s easier for me to take it than to face up to the fact he’s a completely fabricated lie.

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pixietinkdust · 30/11/2021 12:59

@dabbydeedoo please let the gym thing go.

I never stopped him going to the gym. I just asked him it to go every night. We discussed it, it wasn’t like he was doing it already then I came and bulldozered over his lifestyle and inserted myself.

We’ve had so many occasions of extra gym time, periods of complete sobriety/stopping smoking/fixation on healthy eating… I supported him all through this and turned a blind eye to the red flags.

Please give me a break.

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pixietinkdust · 30/11/2021 13:01

@thenewduchessofhastings thank you for this comment too.

I think you’re right, funnily enough his attitude to household chores was quite like that and when confronted his solution was “well we’ll just hire a cleaner” - the checking out thing really resonates. If it doesn’t fit into his mould he’s uninterested.

We could have gotten a cleaner no problem, but my point was the a cleaner doesn’t do washing/drying/folding and the cleaner doesn’t tidy up. She would clean. There are other things involved in running a house.

I feel like I’m starting to see and recognise these little things thanks to this thread.

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todaysdilemma · 30/11/2021 13:02

@dabbydeedoo No, she'd be told to leave the relationship and stay single until she found someone who was happy to commit to a person they saw for maybe a few hours a week....

Because only someone afraid of being single would get into a relationship where there's minimal shared interests/hobbies/time together. Surely being single or having a friends with benefits type arrangement makes more sense if you spend less time with your partner than you would a flatmate.

When you get into a relationship, it isn't just ME ME ME. When you move in with someone, there needs to be a discussion about what constitutes quality time. Anyone who cannot have that conversation or find a compromise shouldn't be in a relationship. It's called a partnership for a reason.

mcmooberry · 30/11/2021 13:04

Aw I'm sorry you are feeling so down, romantic rejection is the absolute worst feeling in the world. Maybe he was perfect 95% of the time but that 5% sounds awful. So disappointing that he wasn't who you thought, one day you will be glad for your lucky escape. 5.30-8.30pm in the gym every night!! I would have not found this tolerable at all! It sounds like an enormous shock for you for your life to change so dramatically so quickly, no wonder you are questioning everything. Surround yourself with friends who know exactly what to say to make you feel better, and one day soon you will.

todaysdilemma · 30/11/2021 13:11

[quote dabbydeedoo]@todaysdilemma why does she have to delay dinner? Is she not capable of eating dinner on her own? An hour a day, every single day, and then most of the weekend sounds perfectly acceptable to me. But then I'm not codependent.[/quote]
No, you're just in a relationship that most people would call ships passing in the night, and not really see the point of. Most people would expect a little bit more out of a partnership that might last 50 years and require joint finances and a lot of commitment. But if it works for you, that's good.

Timeforwinterclothes · 30/11/2021 13:19

The gym - my first ex went every evening and at weekends. He was seeing a man at the gym and having sex with him. Obviously I found out later. Your life with this man wasn't reality. He was spinning you a dream that could never exist. My ex and I were buying a house when he left. He cleared out our rental when I was at work. Total shock. I've been there. It's a horrible shock, but when you accept that all the love and devotion just wasn't real and none of it was your fault, you can have a better life. I have.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 30/11/2021 13:25

[quote dabbydeedoo]@todaysdilemma why does she have to delay dinner? Is she not capable of eating dinner on her own? An hour a day, every single day, and then most of the weekend sounds perfectly acceptable to me. But then I'm not codependent.[/quote]
It's not codependent to not want a relationship where after work a partner spends three hours elsewhere every single night. It's pretty normal. I'm not sure why you've taken such a nasty tone with OP but it's uncalled for.

pixietinkdust · 30/11/2021 13:31

@Timeforwinterclothes oh my god that is awful. I’m so sorry that happened to you.

I genuinely don’t know how I would have coped, it’s amazing how you just “do” though isn’t it.

I’m so glad to hear you’ve had a lovely life Daffodil

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Mix56 · 30/11/2021 13:40

He seriously sounds very damaged, & is having some kind of Bi polar episode, probably exacerbated by the alcohol.
Its not you, You sound lovely, balanced & understandably hurt.
But it was a lucky escape, you aren't married, no kids, young, supportive friends & family, an income & savings...
He on the other hand has a load of baggage you don't know the half of.

BedisBliss · 30/11/2021 13:45

[quote pixietinkdust]@Rissole i’ve tried to reason with myself around this too, the more ive thought on it the more I believe that he’s had that much therapy that he’s able to layer his personality. That the trauma is the bottom layer and on top is this perfect, nice, kind human being that I fell in love with. And unfortunately the top layer has holes in it which are exacerbated by previous cruxes (alcohol!)[/quote]
OP, trust me - lots of outwardly successful, high earners are wankers. You are (and it's part of the grieving process) over analysing, making excuses for him and blaming yourself.
Years ago I came here for support having been traded in for a 'could have been my daughter, we looked so alike' OW and I know your pain. However, trust the wisdom you are getting here - he wasn't a catch, he was cruel and calculating. Trust me, not soon, but in a few months you will be wondering what you saw in him.

scooterbear · 30/11/2021 13:49

I would strongly suspect he has a personality disorder. He fits the pattern perfectly. I work in mental health and this is a story I've seen the like of many times. These people are very convincing, until
They no longer want to be.
However wether he does or is simply an unstable and unpleasant person you have had a very lucky escape-Even if it doesn't feel like it now x take care of yourself op x

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 30/11/2021 13:54

Sounds just like my ex husband OP, just be thankful you didn't spend 20 years with him.

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Fluffycloudland77 · 30/11/2021 14:08

@youvegottenminuteslynn exactly, what’s the point in being in a relationship where they don’t want to spend time with you. I like being with my dh.

He’ll do this in every relationship he has for the rest of his life and end up alone or with a Mail order bride.

tarasmalatarocks · 30/11/2021 14:12

And with regards to the ‘mental health’ comments about clearing off the gym every night for hours and hours— I’m sure plenty of people have stuff they would like to do for the sake of their mental health far more often than they do— but they learn to compromise a bit— I see no problem going to the gym for an hour every day and back at 7.00pm etc but 3 hours most days is in my opinion avoiding your partner if they are on their own and actually would like a bit more time together. I’m all for space, I personally feel claustrophobic in a joined at the hip situation, but this guy clearly didn’t want to spend lots of time with OP- so why be in the relationship . I think OP in all honesty he was making the right noises at the time but in his head just didn’t want the same level of togerthness that you do- I doubt he ever has with anyone—

ArdeaCinerea · 30/11/2021 14:18

OP I am very sorry you are going through this. I must agree with the people who say he lovebombed you; you'll have to go through a 'detox'/withdrawal period from that at first but there is light at the other and.

As an aside, I honestly think 3 hrs in the gym every day is excessive for any person who isn't a professional in sports, personal training etc. It's almost obsessive levels of physical exercise. I was involved with a guy who had multiple addictions and tried to go sober by focusing on gym time and dieting; soon this became another obsession/addiction, same kind of long hours in the gym every day type of behaviour. He started having stomach issues because of disordered eating and frequent physical injuries, whenever I saw him he was limping or feeling nauseous. Eventually he relapsed into drinking anyway. There is such thing as too much of a good thing, and coping 'replacements' for people with mental health issues or addictions must themselves be managed with help from a professional.

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todaysdilemma · 30/11/2021 14:23

@dabbydeedoo Given you've assumed anyone else with a differing view is 'codependent', I think it may be your prejudices at play here. Also, your 'loads of relationships where you hardly ever ate dinner together' is irrelevant because they obviously haven't actually worked out.....

My point was this is a man who wanted to and did move in after 4 months. Most people who need lots of space aren't willing to move in with someone else quite that quickly. My other point was - if a partner is not willing to spend evenings with you, and they know you want this, they are selfish for staying in the relationship or calling you controlling for wanting it. Those are all red flags. Why he needs to go to the gym that frequently is irrelevant - it IS a red flag, if anyone is dating someone who chooses to spend every evening including weekend evenings apart - because his need to be alone or at the gym IS GREATER than his need to spend quality time with her. OP is NOT his carer, and her needs for companionship is not less than his needs for the gym.

And the 'forced to delay dinner' is what the OP had posted early in the thread. So clearly it is something that bothered her. Most people don't get into relationships to eat dinner alone every night. Maybe it is different if you're neurodiverse. But OP hasn't stated either of them are, and so I won't be assuming their needs or rationale are the same as yours.