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Affair - if you stayed why/ how did you do it?

22 replies

Wisteriac43 · 29/11/2021 12:49

If your husband and had an affair how and why did you stay? For me, I think the anger would take over my life. A good friend is wanting to stay with her husband after he had a very public affair. Normally I'd want to support her wishes but I really don't see how you can stay without it ruining your life.

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Signalstation · 29/11/2021 12:59

I agree with you; I don't see how you can stay without it ruining your life. All those questions, wondering where he was, what he was thinking etc. Eurgh, horrible.
Some people draw a line under it and go on to have marriage 2.1
Not for me.

Malibuismysecrethome · 29/11/2021 13:03

I don’t think you can say what you would do unless you have been in the situation. Often people do the complete opposite of what they think they would do.

Santaischeckinglists · 29/11/2021 13:04

A woman I knew 'kept' her dh. Despite him having 3 x dc with ow..
Shock

FissionMailed · 29/11/2021 13:06

I tried.
But the suspicions and distrust destroyed me eventually.

saltontoast · 29/11/2021 13:09

Not myself, but my mum has taken my dad back after a horrendous divorce after he cheated on her with her best friends neighbour (and friend).

Divorced 5 years, very tough on me and my sister as young teenagers. They then got back together, got engaged, moved in together.

Subsequently split up again, but are now back together but living separate.

Absolutely toxic but gave me some good "what NOT to do's" for my own marriage

Tiredofbs123 · 29/11/2021 13:09

@Wisteriac43

If your husband and had an affair how and why did you stay? For me, I think the anger would take over my life. A good friend is wanting to stay with her husband after he had a very public affair. Normally I'd want to support her wishes but I really don't see how you can stay without it ruining your life.
Your friend has been through an enormous trauma. One of the worst parts about the affair is the shame. If you decide to stay you have a double layer piled on top of you. You’re damned of you do and damned if you don’t. You feel so alone. Please don’t do that to your friend. You might not agree with her choice but ultimately it’s her life, and her marriage, her family.

What you can do if you’re rightly concerned, is support her in reinforcing her boundaries with her husband, help her not to rug sweep and insist on safe behaviours from him. Read up on remorse and help her unpick whether her husband is truly remorseful.

I stayed. I’m really happy. I was lucky to have friends and family who just held me close and told me that whatever I wanted to do, they would stand by me.

I was able to reconcile without worrying about shame and embarrassment, which helped me be forceful and determined in my steps forwards. I was so lucky.

I wish your friend and you well.

gonnabeok · 29/11/2021 13:33

I tried but I couldn't forgive. The anger and suspicion ate me up. On days I had a wobble I had no support from my ex. It was very clear it was "get over it" and don't play the victim. I got rid and I'm so much happier. He is still very angry that I called it a day but he only had himself to blame. I could never trust him again and my boundaries are super strong now. I feel sorry for his next girlfriend/victim to be honest.

My advice to her would be not to rush anything. Have some counselling. It takes a strong person to be able to forgive. If it was a very "public" affair it sounds as if he didn't care too much who knew and that in itself would be enough for me to put the slimy fish back in the pond.

KUdos6 · 29/11/2021 13:41

A lot of people stay because they can’t afford to go, some are afraid of being alone or starting again and some simply can’t switch the love feeling off.

Didimum · 29/11/2021 13:47

Some, not many, couples manage to truly reconcile, if the partner who had the affair is truly committed to working on themselves and becoming a safe partner again. This involves years of work through individual therapy and marriage counselling. Essentially breaking the marriage apart completely and putting it back together.

Regardless, your friend doesn't need your judgement right now. It's her decision – she may stay on this course or she may move off it. I don't think anyone can know how they would react or what they would want to do if it hasn't happened to them.

Anordinarymum · 29/11/2021 13:51

I think it depends upon the people and their circumstances. A wife may decide it's better to carry on and live comfortably rather than to end things and be poor for the rest of her life. This is purely subjective of course, factoring in age/children/whatever.

Wisteriac43 · 29/11/2021 15:47

Thanks for the replies. Most of our friends have been pretty vocal about the fact she should leave him. My instinct was that she didn't deserve to have no one left to speak to if he keeps doing shitty things, so I'll keep supporting her choices.

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Angrymum22 · 29/11/2021 16:17

If you are a friend then don’t judge. Until you experience infidelity, particularly in a long established relationship, you have no idea how you will react.

AmIteallythatstupid · 29/11/2021 16:25

I completely agree my friends husband got caught cheating a few years back and i was furious that she chose to forgive him and move on. I couldn't believe she was allowing him to make such a fool of her etc. there were many conversations amongst our closest friends we were all bery opinionated on it, i mean it was certainly something that we would ever do, we'd never forgive a cheat. Anyhow she did and they have.

Fast forward 5 years and my husband got caught cheating, that was 2 years ago and we are still together as i decided to forgive and move on 😂😂.
I liken it to those woman who have yet to have children and when drawing up there birthing plans they are adamant they are having a natural delivery, no drugs and they certainly wouldn't have an epidural. You see then after and yep 2 hours into full labour and they were begging for any drug going epidural and all. So unfortunately unless you find yourself in that situation you just don't know what you would do.

Purplecatshopaholic · 29/11/2021 16:26

A good friend of mine stayed with her husband after he very publicly cheated. It was awful how he behaved, but she chose to have him back and they are still together more than ten years later, and that’s her choice. I couldn’t do it - and didn’t - when my ex cheated I divorced him!

WhenDoesTheWashingEnd · 29/11/2021 19:56

Staying was possibly the hardest decision I ever made in my life!

OP, whatever your friend decides please be there to listen and support.
One thing that helped me at the time was that my friends who knew never judged me or him (except to say what a complete fucking fool he'd been) but they supported my choice to stay.
Years later they are still good friends and are friendly with DH too. If they had strong opinions they never said as much to me and that was a huge help. They were simply there in the moment and would have supported me either way.

I decided to stay because ultimately I knew the affair was a symptom rather than the cause of our broken marriage. We worked on it and it was so damn hard but it was the right decision for us.

SunshineCake1 · 29/11/2021 20:00

You really don't have to see how she can stay. It's not really your business. Either be a good friend and support her and don't.

SunshineCake1 · 29/11/2021 20:03

or don't.

Tranzponster · 29/11/2021 22:08

Staying with cheaters is not popular on Mumsnet but honestly, you can't possibly judge until you've walked in her shoes, and no one knows how it feels until it happens to them.

I knew deep in my soul I could never forgive someone for cheating, but then it happened to me and I stayed.

I stayed because I believed he genuinely and deeply loved me and that what happened was the result of the mess he was inside. I recall so clearly when I found out, that it seemed like my entire universe had collapsed on me but I instinctively knew the person standing in front of me genuinely loved me and didn't love the other woman.

When we say "I'd never stay" I think we work from the basis of a healthy person. A person like me, for example, would only cheat on my husband or partner if I truly didn't love or want them anymore or value them in any way. Even then, I'd just leave rather than put someone through that kind of pain and humiliation.

When you really learn more though, cheating on someone you love (or anyone really), shows a staggering lack of respect and value for yourself rather than who you're with. It's a degrading act. People who love themselves don't do things like that.

So it was in that moment, we both realised, my DP didn't love himself. The affair was a catalyst for big changes. He got therapy and unravelled his "whys". I found out things about him I'd never known and we became closer than ever. He devoured books on the subject. He went through a pretty public nervous breakdown. He committed to me in ways he never had before. And he became a better person for having cheated on me. He grew from it and became someone he respected and loved.

I think until the moment I stayed, he didn't know what it meant to be loved, because going through that was the hardest thing I have ever done.

It was literally years of work. Mostly on him. Recovery for me was a long road. He would tell you now he is glad something big happened that made him make those changes, and he is grateful I didn't give up on him. But he would wish it didn't take that for him to get there. He knows what happened wounded me in ways he never anticipated, and it was a terrible process of grief and change for me to heal.

Your friend won't know how hurt she is or how damaged she is yet. It takes a long time to recover. Whether she stays or goes, that damage is now hers. She has no choice about that. Leaving doesn't resolve that pain.

The easiest thing in the world for me would have been to have walked away and met someone else nice and put it down to my DP being a terrible person. I did the harder thing, but in the end the right thing for me.

Reconciliation is a lifelong process possibly. When someone does this to you, it changes everything in your world. You lose some things, you gain others. It killed me in a lot of ways and there are things which still hurt so much. I am not sure life always plays out in fairytales though.

I know I have a partner who'd lay down his life for me and who makes me happy. I will carry the pain of what happened forever though. It's complicated to explain, but healing doesn't mean the pain really goes away.

I am sorry for your friend. As previous posters have said, the shame she will feel will be magnificent. Stick by her whatever she chooses to do.

Eyepic · 02/12/2021 16:24

Tranzponster.... Thank you that is so very helpful to me at this time.

PowerNap · 02/12/2021 16:33

I hope those of you who chose to stay don't have children.

Speaking as the child of someone who did..

CherylPorter350 · 02/12/2021 16:58

This won't be well received but I do think it's important to try look at all aspects of Any case (the lawyer in me).

I'm the wife....I had an affair. DH understood the reasoning behind it and wanted to work on our marriage. I didn't, I asked him to move out. Not out of guilt, but anger. I had begged and pleaded with him to try and fix our marriage but he was cold, distant and rejected me. So, I did what I did. I was angry he now wanted to be nice to me and make an effort. I asked him to move out.

He never wavered in wanting me back. Eventually we started dating again, we found we still loved each other and began to build the foundation of a new, much better relationship.

I dont regret my affair, or my actions after. DH does not mistrust me now and we have a much stronger, happier marriage

FurrFeather · 02/12/2021 17:31

Such a heartfelt and interesting post Transponster

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