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NC parent has Cancer

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Totired · 26/11/2021 15:56

I’ve Name changed for this.

I’m NC with my one remaining parent, my mother, without going into specifics I will tell you from my point of view how I view my relationship/past with her and my family.

My entire life I was treat like some kind of competition/other woman with regards to affection from my DF, DBs and even extended family.
I was told as a child my DF would never love me as much as he loved her.
She once told me I came between her and her husband, her and her sons and her and her husbands family (my dad, my brothers and my extended family)
She would call me things like sad, pathetic (she actually use to text me from my DFs phone saying this stuff, I knew it was her because my DF couldn’t text and if he could he would have spelt his insults correctly)
As a child she would call me fat, I was so convinced, now I look back in photos I wasn’t. I’ve spent my entire life with body issues because of her comments and insults.
She took every opportunity she could to get me in trouble with my DF, even making things up.
She did her best to turn me against many members of my family, dripping poison in my ears. It was a very long time before I realised what she was doing, but she was successful if alienating me from them. Life was better for me to move away and get on with things without any of my family.
I learnt at a very young age to emotionally close my self off from her. I could never tell her anything personal as she would use it against me.
I can’t stand being around the nastiness that comes out of her mouth, she slags everyone off behind their backs, my aunts, cousins, uncles but is sweet as pie to their faces.
I don’t know anything and would never amount to anything as far as she is concerned.
Im always a trouble maker especially if I ever dare to stand up to her.
I once met a work colleague of hers, I was with my DB in a bar and we started chatting to a couple, my DB introduced the woman as someone who worked with my mother for years. This woman & her husband knew all about my brothers, their families, DCs etc… she had no idea who I was or even that I existed. When I told her I was my DBs sister she thought I was his half sister and my DF had a child before marrying my mother because I’d never once been mentioned.
I moved away as soon as I could and she made it very clear that she had her perfect family that didn’t include me.
One of my DBs & his family are vegetarian, she use to sneak meat into his children’s food.
I have certain rules about things my DCs can eat and drink. They arnt bad rules, I’ve fairly relaxed on a lot of things but grew up with very bad teeth. I went to the “family” dentist at 15 before my parents had to start paying for treatment and wasn’t even registered with them. I’d not had a dental check since I was 5. Anyway I don’t allow my DCs to drink juice or fizzy drinks. My DC told me that Nanna gives her carton of juices every time I wasn’t around. I fully believe my mother did this. I once left my DCs at her house, she decided to bath them, even though I said not to, one of my DCs has skin problems and she filled the bath full of cheap bubble bath then said my DCs were lying that she didn’t. Apparently it was just a coincidence my 4yo dcs skin was on fire.

There is so so much more…

I spent many years making excuses up, even defending her saying I know my relationship is bad but deep down she’s a good person.

I now no longer do that, I’m now at a place where I don’t really care anymore. I don’t want her in my life, I want to protect my DCs from her, the double standards and nastiness was starting to show around my DCs. Things came to ahead 3 years ago, so much stuff I’m not even going to attempt to put here because it’s way too much to put down. My DCs no longer ask about her or say they miss her. The NC resulted in me going NC with one brother and lc with another, my DCs really missed my NC brothers DD, they have finally stopped crying about missing her. My youngest dosnt even know any of my family except a couple of extended family members I stay in touch with.

In the last few years my family has gone through so much. Both myself and DH have had mental breakdowns, we nearly lost our home. Our DCs have had various health issues. I’ve also has health issues to the point I couldn’t cope anymore, hence my mental health breakdown. We are now finally in a good place. DH happy in work, we’ve moved, DCs happy in school, after going private I finally have diagnosis’, I have medication and treatments in place and I finally feel like I’m getting my life back.

So yesterday I get a call from lc brother, he literally only ever contacts me when someone is dead or dying. The call was to tell me our mother has cancer, the same kind that killed my DF. Apparently I will be hearing from her soon as she wants to send my DCs Christmas presents, she’s not bothered with even a birthday card in the last 3 years, now she wants to send them presents, fuck that. I asked how she got my address, I knew full well as lc brother text me last week asking for it to send Xmas cards, I didn’t think to much about it as my SIL dose send us cards. I told him I don’t want her to have my address, he back tracked saying he hadn’t given it her yet. Not sure if it’s the truth or if he’s going to tell her not to. To note, I moved this year, previously I was at the same address that she knew, she even had keys to my house as my DF had a set she never returned to me.

I don’t want to hear from her. I don’t want to have to feel I should have to let her make contact with my DCs. I don’t want their heads messed with. If it’s bad like my DF then why should I let her into their lives just for her to go and die on them. I’ve also got to the point in life where I am so tired of people walking round treating others like shit then being forgiven because they are old or sick. If she wanted to be surrounded by her children and grandchildren in old age and if she got sick then she should have treat us better through out our lives.

My DH dosnt want her around our DCs either but said he would support me in my decision. We met when I was previously NC with my parents, he has said when I reconnected and we moved closer to them so they were in our life more that I was a very different person to the confident person he’d known for many years. He hates how my family make me feel and put me down, even my siblings as they just think it’s natural to always pile on me. They actually know nothing about me as a person or my life and the things I’ve done because they never ever took an interest, it was just convenient for them that I never lived close by.

I don’t know what I want from this post, I think I just needed to let it out as I’m not good at letting people other than my DH in.

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Cyw2018 · 26/11/2021 16:06

I'm NC with my mother and DF died a few years ago. I'm dreading that phonecall! It must be so tough for you.

But do what you feel is right for you and don't be bullied into anything else.

Wherearemymarbles · 26/11/2021 16:17

So sorry to read your post.

Stay NC, keep yourself and your family away from this sad and pitiful excuse of a human.

No good will ever come it it

Takenoprisoner · 26/11/2021 17:43

So sorry you're going through this.
You can grieve in your own way, both for the mother she wasn't to you, and also for the mother you're losing. None of this grieving needs to involve having any contact with her.

Blanca87 · 26/11/2021 17:53

You are doing the right thing! You can senses you are healing, strong and happy. Toxic people are like tics, you often don’t see it until it’s made you unwell and sick. Keep healing, growing and enjoy your toxic free life. She has created her own reality and now she has to deal with consequences, alone.

QuickLearner · 26/11/2021 18:01

Stay NC
Refuse any gifts/suggestions of seeing her
Do not get caught up in the emotional side of it all
Once she's kicked the bucket seek counselling if you feel you need it

Stay strong and do this for you, not for her, or anyone else
For you

She sounds bloody vile to be honest

Totired · 26/11/2021 18:05

Thank you everyone. I know I’m doing what I feel is best to protect myself and my children, sometimes you just need to hear it from someone else.

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Auntycorruption · 26/11/2021 18:06

I was NC with my father. A year or so I heard he had cancer. Earlier this year he died.

Ahead of the death I wondered how I would feel, if I would regret not getting in touch etc.

Turns out I don't. He added nothing to my life. His death took nothing away.

Stay NC if that's what's best for you.

IncompleteSenten · 26/11/2021 18:07

The fact she has cancer changes nothing .

Skeumorph · 26/11/2021 18:11

Stay away.

Absolutely no good will come from this.

You know she doesn’t want to apologise, get closer to you, any of that stuff, dont you?

She wants someone to have a kick out at and dump some of her shit on, now that she’s been handed a massive pile of it to deal with. She wants someone around that she can make feel crap, to make her feel better.

Stay away. Give your time and attention to the people you love, and who love you.

She has her golden child and she can just be happy with that and fuck off and leave you alone.

You reap what you sow.

Hoppinggreen · 26/11/2021 18:11

I had a similar call about my NC father
Didn’t go to the hospital, didn’t go to the funeral
Absolutely no regrets at all

Mantlemoose · 26/11/2021 18:12

Sounds awful OP. You must do what is right for you and your family. Take care.

Skeumorph · 26/11/2021 18:12

Oh and yes. I would say that you owe it to your children to keep her away from you all.

She is toxic and the way she’s treated you is absolutely beyond awful.

justasking111 · 26/11/2021 18:18

My mother sent me all her funeral paperwork, come her death I will organise the funeral home which is paid for. Other I'm done by DB had a breakdown a few years ago counselling said it was her, my DS fled to the other side of the world she's messed up. My DF who enabled her is dead.

Keep clear tell DB you won't accept presents your OH will dispose of them

VeganCheesePlease · 26/11/2021 18:31

100 per cent stay no contact! The urge to give you a big hug is real. I'm so sorry for what she put you through. You owe her nothing.

Robin233 · 26/11/2021 18:45

After reading your post I just wanted to scoop up that little girl you were and give you a big cuddle.
Mental health doesn't come close to cutting as far as your m is concerned.
How could anyone stand by and let that happen????,
BUT you have figured it.
You found the inner strength to say 'no more , I deserve better '
Some people are so brain washed by their parents they never get there.
I think you're wonderful and amazing.
Anyone dying of cancer is sad, and this may touch some unresolved issues buried deep down.
But you tried and all your life all you got was abuse from her.
And of course you don't want any Christmas presents from her lol.
I hope others see your thread and find strength in it.

tootootaataa · 26/11/2021 19:30

Stay strong OP. You only get one mum, and yours has let you done immensely. Now your job is to take care of your mental health and to protect your DC.

LadyEloise1 · 26/11/2021 19:53

Oh my word @Totired
What a dreadful time you had growing up.you poor darling.
Was anyone on your side ?
Did anyone have your back ?
What cid your brother say when your mother's co worker had never realised you existed ?

Hell no I'd remain no contact with that b*tch.,

What made her do what she did ?
Why did you go back and let ger have access to your children ????
Do any of your sisters in law know the real story ?

Totired · 26/11/2021 22:30

@LadyEloise1

Oh my word *@Totired* What a dreadful time you had growing up.you poor darling. Was anyone on your side ? Did anyone have your back ? What cid your brother say when your mother's co worker had never realised you existed ?

Hell no I'd remain no contact with that b*tch.,

What made her do what she did ?
Why did you go back and let ger have access to your children ????
Do any of your sisters in law know the real story ?

My paternal grandmother had my back but she died a long time ago. No one ever really knew what was going on behind close doors, my brothers did and to some extent were on my side, lots of ignore her, you know what’s she’s like and even jokes about no matter what I say or do I’m fucked, humour is a big defensive mechanism in my family. I remember my DF turning round to me once saying he knows she’s wrong but he will always take her side because it makes his life easier…. That’s when I decided I was leaving, six months later I moved away. I think because the abuse wasn’t physical, although I did get a good slap occasionally, it wasn’t deemed as anything other than we just don’t get on. Plus it was just accepted that as it’s your parents you just put up with it. It’s only in more recent years people who grew up in families like mine, (the parents word is gospel) have started to realise it’s not acceptable. I was lucky I got away when I was young, I think if I had stayed close to home I would be a very different person.

Yes my SILs know exactly what she’s like, she’s turned on them in the past but neither of them are pushovers and won’t take her shit, they will and can easily walk away from it, both have no problem telling my DBs she’s their mother they can deal with her.

My main reason for allowing contact was I missed my Dad, I wanted my children to know him. I know he’s was definitely at fault for allowing me to be treat the way I was but I still missed him. I’d also been away a long time and I think I thought things would be different.

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Totired · 26/11/2021 22:36

@Robin233

After reading your post I just wanted to scoop up that little girl you were and give you a big cuddle. Mental health doesn't come close to cutting as far as your m is concerned. How could anyone stand by and let that happen????, BUT you have figured it. You found the inner strength to say 'no more , I deserve better ' Some people are so brain washed by their parents they never get there. I think you're wonderful and amazing. Anyone dying of cancer is sad, and this may touch some unresolved issues buried deep down. But you tried and all your life all you got was abuse from her. And of course you don't want any Christmas presents from her lol. I hope others see your thread and find strength in it.
Thank you. I’m not someone who shows much emotion but I welled up reading your comment on wanting to scoop me up and cuddle the little girl I was, thank you. I was terrified when I had my first daughter that I would repeat history with her, I made my husband promise me if he ever saw my relationship with her going the way mine did that he’d put me in my place or even leave me. I now have more than one daughter and I could never treat them that way, ever.
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mamakena · 27/11/2021 00:54

Bet the cancer is wildly exaggerated if not fabricated. Illness & death are a fave hoover tactic for these types. Why the exact same cancer your DF had? Becoz she knows stuff about it already, or just to do more mind games with your memories of DF.

Stay far far away, protect your family... Amp up the NC to level 5.

CaramelWaferAndTea · 27/11/2021 01:18

I just want to offer some solidarity. I am NC with my father for similar reasons. He was diagnosed with metastatic cancer in April 2020 and rang me. I actually went and saw him with the rest of the family for 48 hours but didn’t bring my DH or DS. I have not seen him since and don’t think I now will. He sent me some poisonous messages recently and I blocked him.

CaramelWaferAndTea · 27/11/2021 01:19

You must do what is right for you, OP - you can’t be responsible for anyone else’s feelings, it is hard enough to fill your own cup without adding a drain into the mix. Cancer doesn’t mean you have to reconnect or like someone.

Totired · 27/11/2021 08:42

@mamakena

Bet the cancer is wildly exaggerated if not fabricated. Illness & death are a fave hoover tactic for these types. Why the exact same cancer your DF had? Becoz she knows stuff about it already, or just to do more mind games with your memories of DF.

Stay far far away, protect your family... Amp up the NC to level 5.

I don’t think so. She’s very clued up medically, through her work and in general. One of her redeeming qualities is she’s a very good person to have as a support for anyone with medical problems. She’s the go to person for my aunts when they have needed support during illnesses as she dosnt take bullshit from Drs and knows the right things to ask. She’s had other medical issues, bad heart, other cancer scares years ago, she could have chosen anything to play on. Her sister also died of this cancer.
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mamakena · 27/11/2021 09:11

That's my point exactly, the more savvy she is the more sneakily she can hoover. I'm also NC with my Nmum who is extremely smart with her manipulations. The thought of resuming contact with mine makes me physically ill. I feel for you. I would def be skeptical ... In any case she sounds awful and may use even a real terminal illness to stab you and turn the knife in your heart one last time. They get more evil, not less. Protect yourself regardless of what you decide.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 27/11/2021 09:30

"One of her redeeming qualities is she’s a very good person to have as a support for anyone with medical problems".

I'd be questioning that as well. Narcissists love to make such things all about them and can make other people's medical problems all about them. They often cite that they've had the same illness and or worse when in truth they have not.

When a narcissist admits or proclaims that they have a certain medical condition, be it physical or mental or both, they often receive sympathy because people who have empathy can understand that having these struggles can be very difficult. As a result, they are more likely to tolerate, put up with, justify, and even defend the narcissists toxic behaviour under the guise of compassion and acceptance. That, by extension, will give the narcissist a pass to never change their behavior because there are no negative consequences. Quite the opposite occurs, actually, because now everyone's treating them so nicely and they don't even have to hide or justify their behaviour.

Your brother here has acted as the "flying monkey" re his mother.
If your mother does send your DC any Christmas presents do not acknowledge these in any way. Dispose of such by taking them to a charity shop; do not give these items any more power. Keep refusing it all; do not fall for such hoovering tactics that are indeed being employed here.

You may want to read and or post on the current "well we took you to Stately Homes" thread. There are some on there who come from narcissistic family structures and you seem to be certainly describing one of those.