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advice needed - splitting up

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lucylukes · 07/11/2021 22:01

this is kinda long as didn't want to drip feed - would love some advice from folks who have been through similar.

told my partner of 13 years I want out about 8 weeks ago. he is still in our flat and i'm sleeping in a spare room (i bought the flat on my own, which caused arguments but i didn't want our finances tied together, seeing we've been talking about splitting up for last 5 years or so, maybe longer). i earn a decent amount so financially stable - as does he.

ATM, we eat dinner together, as a family, but nothing else. it's not that different to how it was before to be honest - i do mornings, school run, then off to work until the evening. our son and i spend most weekends together, my partner will join for a thing or two occasionally but not too often. the main difference now is that we both retreat into our rooms as soon as our son (also 10) is in bed.

with us, it's me who hasn't wanted sex for a long time, and struggled to keep everything up since the birth of our son - main breadwinner (bar last 2 years when he finally got a job), main housekeeper (up to me to arrange and handle everything), and his support line (he suffers from anxiety/depression/mood swings which meant things have been hard on many levels and as a result over the years i've stared seeing him less as a romantic partner and more of a friend). i don't find him attractive in a way that would make me want to be intimate with him, and i guess years of 'crap' we've been trough also means my feelings for him have changed - i see him as friend and not a romantic partner. he still loves me and i'm breaking his heart. he's a lovely person in a lot of ways but struggles with mental health and says that our family is the only thing he has. while i'm sure that's not true (he also has another son from previous relationship, sisters and both parents still alive), it's not far from the truth either.

i feel horrendous guilt for breaking up the family and my son is incredibly attached to his dad (he's an atypical man i guess in a sense that he's very affectionate), but I have been miserable - relationship wise - for years and as I approach 50, I just feel i need to do something, for everyone's sake. i don't want to show my son that this is what a happy fulfilling relationship looks like (it doesn't!) and i can't live a lie anymore, it's making me utterly miserable - but why is it so hard to just admit a relationship has run its course, why does it fell like such a massive failure and a betrayal for our son?!

our son will be absolutely heartbroken and this is all made much harder by the fact that i cannot know for sure how my partner will react in reality - it's possible (even likely), he will retreat and seclude even further (he rarely leaves the house even now), and his mental health will deteriorate (which is partially why it took me so long to gather the courage - i struggle with feeling responsible for his wellbeing, something i've been carrying for years and i'm sure hasn't helped with how i view my partner now, in romantic terms).

i may have made a mistake in telling my partner there's no rush to move out as i'm desperate to do this amicably, but it's been 8 weeks and he hasn't even viewed any properties yet - how do i handle this. i guess he doesn't want to move out as it's been my decision and it feels cruel to force him, but what else can i do? I've been clear that I want to live separately and at the minimum i need space (he hardly leaves the house) - although I have given him some hope that perhaps we could work on the relationship once separated - something I am kind of hoping for myself but unsure how realistic and wondering if i'm just fooling both of us.

he wanted to just 'tell our son' - i made him wait until we have a plan of what happens and when and how it will all work. but the plan can't be hatched until i know where he's moving as this will likely inform the setup in practical terms. i was kid of thinking we persevere until xmas and make no changes until then (we do get on well, on balance), but now i'm not so sure this is the best idea. he's told his family and i think he's taking the victim route and won't admit it takes two to tango - while it may be made who made the final decision, we just don't make each other happy any more. and we don't (can't) give each other what we want / need.

any words of wisdom very welcome - how did you go about it, what are the no-no's, your top tips - especially around how to communicate to kids or practicalities that work / don't work (and any words of encouragement). thank you!

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BluebellsGreenbells · 07/11/2021 22:09

The truth is, on a practical level the change to you will be minimal - he is facing bigger changes as he hasn’t had to look after himself before and is now procrastinating- so you’ll need to get tough!

Be practical - ask him what help he needs in finding another place to live, how he plans on furnishing the flat and when he can start packing his things.

Give him a time scale - it’s your fault and you aren’t married. You may need to turf him out.

I wouldn’t worry about what anyone else thinks- it’s none of their business and irrelevant! You don’t know what goes on in other peoples houses.

Good luck.

IknowwhatIneed · 07/11/2021 22:14

You aren’t responsible for him, he’s a fully grown adult who is more than capable of accessing the supports he needs for his mental health. You are responsible for you and your child.

Legally he has no right to be in your home after you’ve asked him to leave. Instead of saying there’s no hurry, give him a deadline - say 4 weeks - to sort himself somewhere else to live. I get wanting to keep things amicable, but you also need to be able to move forward. And stop giving him hope, if it’s over it’s over - he’ll be hanging on thinking if he ignores you the problems will go away.

NewlySingle2021 · 07/11/2021 22:22

I had similar with my H, I originally said he could take his time moving out but he started taking the piss (viewing properties, going so far with them, then backing out plus treating my home like a hotel and some very disrespectful things) so I then had another conversation and gave him a timeframe. He pushed for an extra week, I gave in, on his final week he took the piss even more and I regretted my kindness. He also struggles with depression and his mental health, so while I was considering splitting I did feel guilty, but I realised that for many years I've prioritised his well-being and not taken care of my own. He has bothered about my mental health and I've been holding the marriage together on my own with him putting in zero effort. So why should I put myself out to protect him any longer? Once I realised that, other things clicked into place and the guilt dissipated. My DC were sad at first but generally settled now, DS idolises H and he struggles every Sunday night after H drops them off. I am so much happier that the DC seem quite calm and stable too, so try not to worry too much about your son. You really do need to put yourself first on this.

lucylukes · 07/11/2021 22:39

Thank you - you're right about timeline and false hope (I guess it's a case of 'if only' when in reality, he is who he is and i am who i am, and while we both changed during our relationship, he simply can't give what i need and vice versa).

I've been trying to help with flat hunt, but he doesn't want me involved (fair) and I offered some essential furniture too (which again, he doesn't want). He's talking about 'not knowing if he even wants to live around here' which makes me so mad as if the tables were turned i'd do anything to stay close to my son - and while he loves him more than anything, he's still putting himself first (it's been an ongoing thing, with his mental illness, having to prioritise himself but it's frustrating when i feel i've been prioritising both of them for years - my mistake i guess)

any advice on communicating to our son? or the practical aspects of day-to-day? he's felt unable to look after our son for a period longer than a couple of hours so i'm not expecting overnight stays or anything similar - at least not until our son is a bit older.

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BluebellsGreenbells · 07/11/2021 22:53

The ‘not living’ near is designed to punish you.

The only answer is well that’s your choice.

Act breezy and don’t get involved.

Stop thinking for him or making suggestions. He wants you to do that.

TheHuffAndPuffALot · 29/12/2021 18:58

How did you get on OP?
My relationship has run it's course (long dead in the water tbh), and I'll need to start thinking about how to broach these subjects soon.

NewlyJingle2021 · 29/12/2021 20:21

@lucylukes hope it's going ok, sorry I didn't see your reply to mine til now!

Practical day to day I'm not sure what to advise. I think it must be unique to each couple. I just acted like we were friends. Not as formal as colleagues but not confiding or chit chatting as you would do with a real friend. Distant but friendly in a way. No more washing, cooking, no bed sharing etc. more like roommates. But then we've been that way for a long time anyway.

For some context, H has been gone for about 8 weeks and my DS (7) asked tonight 'why can't daddy live with us like he did a long time ago?' So to him it's already a long time in the past. H had visited them tonight and my DS always gets upset after he leaves, then 5 mins later is fine again. He does have ASD and doesn't understand the concept of time too well, but my other NT dc are also very settled and seem fine with the situation and also refer to Daddy living here as 'ages ago' 'years ago' and so on, so that reassures me it's sort of history to them. Obvs I don't know how it'll affect them down the line but they do seem happy and accepting of it. So hopefully your dc will be fine. I didn't give mine specific reasons as to why their dad was moving out as they're too young (and the reasons are too numerous!) but we did it together, reassures them we still loved them and would be friends, and then bigged up having 2 bedrooms, special toys in both and Father Christmas would visit both and so on.

Also when he was here H was capable of the near minimum and couldn't cope with our dc overnight solo - I always had to make other arrangements if I was going away. Pathetic. But suddenly he can grow some balls and manage the dc together on his own. So don't let him get away with no overnights etc. I did have serious concerns but have had to just calm them down as otherwise I foresee the next years as me on duty 24/7, H picking them up for a few hours of 'Disney dad' and me doing every single night. So I didn't want to give him an inch. Something you may want to consider.

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