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Clare's Law...what does it disclose?

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ConcernedFriend22 · 07/11/2021 03:58

A friend of mine's sister has been in a relationship for a few months with a man I know of. I know that he has abused every partner he's ever had, it's not gossip, or rumours.
I can't warn the sister, I dont actually know her that well. I could ask my friend to look into Clares Law on her sister's behalf as she would know/be able to get the details needed to do it. But, would it be enough? I dont want to rock the boat unless the proof would be there.
This is what I know. He has never been convicted of any crime. I dont know if he's ever been arrested. I do know that at least three of his ex partners have reported him to the police for threatening behaviour, harrassment, having to get him removed from their home after kicking off, smashing things up etc.

Would these things even be on record? It spans about 20 years. My friend will believe me of course, but if she warns her sister with no evidence to back it up, it's likely her sister will cut contact with her as she practically worships the ground he walks on, I dont want to be the cause of that.

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Moraelin · 07/11/2021 07:25

You can apply for a right to know Clare's Law disclosure for your friend's sister. Your details will not be disclosed in any way and she will not know who the request came from. The disclosure would cover domestic violence reports to police whether or not he was arrested or interviewed about them.
If you have a look at your local police forces website it should have some more information.

hatgirl · 07/11/2021 08:15

If he is considered to be a risk to his partners then there are processes 'behind the scenes' to make disclosures to the new partners of men with a history of domestic violence.

For these processes to work the police have to first be aware of the new relationship. That information can come from any where and in most areas there is a regular meeting where multi agency professionals meet in pretty strict confidence to share information about people in the area they know to be a risk/at risk.

You could email your local police force using their 101 email setting out all the information you know and your concerns about the new relationship. You probably won't hear anything back but it doesn't mean nothing will happen and it creates a new record of concerns about him.

GotBeatenUp · 07/11/2021 12:14

It won't show violence towards a partner he wasn't living with, or if the charges were dropped

dresstokillmytime · 07/11/2021 12:22

@GotBeatenUp

It won't show violence towards a partner he wasn't living with, or if the charges were dropped
I'm sorry but that isn't true.

I've seen Clare's law disclosures and been present in police visits. What is disclosed does vary but they very much do include information that hasn't led to a conviction.

One of the disclosures I saw included intelligence around violent behaviour not related to domestic abuse.

GotBeatenUp · 07/11/2021 12:28

Oh. OK.
I was told that violence against a partner he wasn't living with wouldn't show up, as it was common assault not DV.
It was probably ABH, not common assault but the police weren't particularly interested.

TurnUpTurnip · 07/11/2021 12:46

Well my sister did a Claire’s law on a guy she was seeing and it came back with nothing! A few days later she got a call from the police officer who said she had “done some digging” and found out he actually had punched his mum in the stomach but that didn’t show up under the original Claire’s law 🤔 she only looked into it further as she said she was concerned, the guy was really really bad no idea why it didn’t originally show up, so I’m not convinced it shows up as much as people think I think it’s like above it was considered assault talker than dv so didn’t show up

GotBeatenUp · 08/11/2021 13:24

@dresstokillmytime, thanks for the correction, which came across as dismissive.

I was beaten up by a partner who did not live with me. I asked if giving a statement would mean it would show up on a Clare's Law disclosure on him. I was told not.

I didn't give a statement because I was scared of retribution and he would have told a pack of lies, and probably got others to do the same.

If a Clare's Law disclosure doesn't show anything, it doesn't necessarily mean the guy is squeaky clean

NattyShaker · 31/10/2024 13:59

I've been talking to someone for a few weeks now and because of my past I've done a clairs & Sarah's law on him it hasn't come back as of yet we are now on day 10 of waiting, he knows I'm doing it and has said its a good thing that I'm doing it and he can understand why and he respects it and I've said that if it comes back as bad I will be walking away completely it's taken 10 days so far and nothing back is thay a good sign or a bad sign it's not back I've had the. Back I. 3 days before so worried

Geelaurax · 27/11/2024 10:36

Does Claire’s law cover just arrests or allegations?

HeavyRainSoon · 27/11/2024 13:03

Geelaurax · 27/11/2024 10:36

Does Claire’s law cover just arrests or allegations?

It will include anything where the person in question has a police record or a report has been made against them, not just arrests and/or convictions.

KhakiShaker · 27/11/2024 15:23

HeavyRainSoon · 27/11/2024 13:03

It will include anything where the person in question has a police record or a report has been made against them, not just arrests and/or convictions.

So all it takes is a report (with no evidence or conviction) for something to be declared under Claire’s law?

I’m curious as my partner’s batshit, malicious ex has recently made up a load of allegations to the police (all false) and took great joy in telling him it would show up under Claire’s law. Surely they can’t go disclosing something that is completely unfounded with no evidence, just because someone reports it? The police haven’t contacted my partner (or myself) since the ‘report’ was made, and this was ages ago.

HeavyRainSoon · 27/11/2024 16:28

KhakiShaker · 27/11/2024 15:23

So all it takes is a report (with no evidence or conviction) for something to be declared under Claire’s law?

I’m curious as my partner’s batshit, malicious ex has recently made up a load of allegations to the police (all false) and took great joy in telling him it would show up under Claire’s law. Surely they can’t go disclosing something that is completely unfounded with no evidence, just because someone reports it? The police haven’t contacted my partner (or myself) since the ‘report’ was made, and this was ages ago.

Domestic Violence Disclosure Scheme factsheet - GOV.UK

"The scheme has two elements: the “Right to Ask” and the “Right to Know”. Under the scheme an individual or relevant third party (for example, a family member) can ask the police to check whether a current or ex-partner has a violent or abusive past. This is the “Right to Ask”. If records show that an individual may be at risk of domestic abuse from a partner or ex-partner, the police will consider disclosing the information.
The “Right to Know” enables the police to make a disclosure on their own initiative if they receive information about the violent or abusive behaviour of a person that may impact on the safety of that person’s current or ex-partner. This could be information arising from a criminal investigation, through statutory or third sector agency involvement, or from another source of police intelligence."

Domestic Violence Disclosure Scheme factsheet

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/domestic-abuse-bill-2020-factsheets/domestic-violence-disclosure-scheme-factsheet

HappyFawn · 03/12/2024 11:17

I'm sorry, I randomly found this thread and had to sign up.
You are aware that men who have "crazy ex partners" who make "ridiculous claims to the police" are major major red flags for abuse that he is trying to cover up?
From a crazy ex partner, who is absolutely not crazy.

Geelaurax · 13/12/2024 11:45

HappyFawn · 03/12/2024 11:17

I'm sorry, I randomly found this thread and had to sign up.
You are aware that men who have "crazy ex partners" who make "ridiculous claims to the police" are major major red flags for abuse that he is trying to cover up?
From a crazy ex partner, who is absolutely not crazy.

I’m sorry you’ve had to go through this, but in some cases there is infact bitter exes who will stop at nothing to ruin peoples lives

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