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Advice please - need to leave but don't know how.

12 replies

MummaDto3andahalf · 06/11/2021 22:06

I'm going to try and keep this a short as possible but still try and give you an idea of my situation...

I've been with OH for 6 years, after year 1 he moved to Germany for work, was out there for 3 years and has been back the last 2 years.

The last 2 years have been hard! I feel like I'm clinging on to this relationship and it's becoming more and more difficult to stay.

Hes an a-hole. He's never been violent. But he's controlling and jealous and I have learnt recently that he's probably one of the nastiest people I've ever met. And trust me when I say, I've met some right "see you next Tuesdays"!

I can't talk to him about things he does that upset or annoy me as I'm "just being sensitive", if I argue back with him I need to "stop acting like a child and grow up" or if I disagree with a decision he makes I get "we're not having this conversation anymore, I've said no. Simple as. End of." He's kicked me out numerous times. Throws things in my face at every opportunity. Told me to leave my job when I gave birth to our first child together, he earned enough money to be able to do that comfortably. But I loved my job and I was hesitant, however, I did as I was told. He bought a house an hour away from where all my family and friends were and I didn't have a car so he bought one for me (in his name). If we argue then I can't use the car. If I spend money on something he doesn't think is necessary then he likes to remind me of how much I cost him when I wasn't working and how he paid for all the birthdays and Christmases for all the kids and without him I wouldn't have anything I have (I am fully aware that I have nothing! Everything I "have" is his, and he doesn't let me forget it).

I have 4 children, 2 from an ex partner and 2 with OH. My eldest children are teens and youngers are 3 and 1. I've had to have words with OH over the last year about the way hes treating the big kids, he only talks to them to tell them off. Doesn't acknowledge them when they're here (they spend 4 nights here and 3 with dad) and whinges about doing things as a family (which means ALL of us) as its too expensive to do anything with the big kids too. I won't have that, and they are included, but he will be miserable all day and just ruins anything we do with his bad attitude.

It was my DS 1st birthday last month. 2 days before I had a work night out (I've recently started working again), just food and drinks. I said I was going to get the last train home at 11.30, but my boss wouldn't allow this and booked me an uber on the company account for 12. On my way home I had text off OH telling me I was "shady as fuck" because apparently no company would fork out £60 just to get their employer home safely. I had work the next day, so left him sleeping in the mornigng and went to work. I then had texts telling me not to come home that night, I said ok, I'll grab the kids and go stay at a friend's. He told me no, I couldn't come home but I couldn't take the kids. And I couldn't see my son the next day (on his 1st birthday) because I should have thought about the consequences before acting shady as fuck. I argued, tried to reason, and even begged him to stop being so nasty and he was having none of it. In the end I just went back home, didn't mention anything, and acted as if everything was normal. And he did the same. But for me, that was the straw that broke the camels back. I'm still here but I'm planning to leave, I just don't know how to.

We argued tonight, which is what brought me here now. I was talking about my works Christmas party that they do in Feb. It's in London and it's an all expenses paid for event. I was talking about the photos I'd seen from last year when he said "you're not fucking going so get that out of your head now" I laughed and informed him that I am. It's booked, and I'm driving up and the company are paying me for doing so (on top of the days wage that they're paying us to travel there), he then started kicking off about me driving HIS car there, how it doesn't matter about them paying me because it won't compare to the wear and tear and if I'm going to go and act like a single woman I can do it by my own means and get a train. I don't understand how I'm acting like a single woman!

So back to the main point. I work, my two youngest children are in childcare 7.30 - 6pm Monday to Friday. I drop the kids off, travel to work (in the same area I used to to live) and OH picks the kids up at 6 as I don't get home until around 6.20. How do I leave? I can't just up and leave because of work, I need the kids in childcare. I can't leave and drive up to drop the kids off in the morning, that would mean waking them up at 4 to get there on time and not getting them back to wherever we'd be staying until close to 8pm. it's just not practical. I don't want to ask for time off work as I've only recently started. Plus I'd need to take time off for the transitioning of current nursery to a new one.

A friend said I should call womens aid. But I'd feel like a bit of a fraud tbh. He's an a-hole but is it really abuse? Would I be wasting time that someone in genuine need could be using? Plus, if I did, I assume they'd put me up somewhere like a hostel? But I work and I know family hostel prices here are crazy money! I couldn't afford that.

The council aren't great. If I'm not homeless they won't do anything.

To private rent a 3 bed house in the area I'm from and work would cost me over £900 a month in rent alone. I get paid £1400, I couldn't afford for us to live after bills.

I'm also really worried if I do leave that he'll threaten me with the kids. He'll use them to hurt me. What if he has them one night and decides he's not going to let me have them back?

I feel like I'm stuck here and there's no way out.

OP posts:
Queenie6655 · 06/11/2021 22:35

Shocking abuse

On so many levels

Woman's aid are amazing please please contact them

This man is nit just an a hole

He is utterly fcking awful
Abusive bastard

Sorry been there so I can see all the similarities

He should be charged with coercive and controlling behaviour among other things

Get out please

Confide in someone you can trust at work
I had to do that and we managed ok

Poor you
What an awful human 🤬🤬🤬

nimbuscloud · 06/11/2021 22:39

He’s a shit.
Have your older children told their father what he is like? Would they prefer to stay with their dad all the time?

MummaDto4andahalf · 06/11/2021 23:03

Thank you for your reply @Queenie6655 perhaps womens aid is worth a shot. Even if it's for advice maybe.

And yes @nimbuscloud, he knoe what OH is like because I've told him. I have a very close relationship with their dad and his OH, they're my closest friends. But no, the children don't want to spend more time there. But if they did they know that their days with each parent isn't set in stone, they can come between homes whenever they like. We have a group chat with all of us (except OH) so if they have want to stay here or there any extra days they put it in the chat. We're all very flexible in that way.

sjxoxo · 06/11/2021 23:11

This is definitely abusive- he is controlling on another level & he uses your own kids as leverage- for me that’s 100% abuse! You really need to leave you are right- he is horrible and must be making you feel terrible living like this. Do you have any family nearby? Could you confide in them? Sounds like your work could be very supportive of you- could you confide in a manager/hr? They may be very willing to help you find a way to leave; eg if you went to stay with family for a period of time perhaps they would say you can wfh, or even help you regarding childcare perhaps. Your job is an asset so I would definitely consider confiding in them if you have a good manager or hr contact. Also your friends recommendation of women’s aid is great too. I think you should reach out to all you can- family, friends, work, women’s aid- between all of these pillars you will find support & help to leave. I really hope you do as he is a horrible person & I fear this would escalate- you don’t have to live like this. Sending you a hug op and lots of strength ❤️

heyday · 07/11/2021 07:07

Speak to as many charities, that offer support to women in your situation, as possible to find out what options may be available to you. Obviously he can't stop you taking your older children with you if you left but he may fight for the other two which is why you need as much support and advice possible. Just be very careful though so he does not find out what you are doing - he sounds like a very unpleasant person indeed.

Peace43 · 07/11/2021 08:04

He is controlling and both financially and emotionally abusive. Your work sound nice. Tell them, tell the school, tell your GP, tell your family, ring Women’s Aid. Ask for help. You’ll be amazed. You don’t have to solve this problem all by yourself and the relief at telling other people is huge. Open your life up and let everyone in to help you ditch this twat.

VanCleefArpels · 07/11/2021 08:13

This is definitely abuse

Women’s Aid will definitely help

As a single person You may be entitled to some UC to top up your income, help pay for rent and childcare. Do a check on Turn2Us website using a notional rent for a 2 bed property in your area (look on Rightmove)

Get all your personal documents- passports, birth certificates, financial documents and squirrel them away (underwear drawer?) now.

Are you a joint owner or tenant of your current home?

GoodnightGrandma · 07/11/2021 08:15

He is very controlling.
Make plans to leave.
Remember, if you feel frightened or threatened call the police.

TheresAStarmanWaitingInTheSky · 07/11/2021 08:21

He is a controlling, abusive, nasty b*ard. Tryng to stop you seeing your own child on their first birthday. All the other stuff too. Are there any family you can stay with. Well done on getting a job. I don't have any experience of Womans Aid but others on Mumsnet say they are very supportive. Please stay safe, he might ramp up the controlling even more if he knows you are going to leave. Sending best wishes to you and the children.

GoodnightGrandma · 07/11/2021 08:25

Consider asking work for flexible working, or changing your hours. You’re entitled to ask every so often - can’t remember what it’s called, but I did it.

MummaDto4andahalf · 07/11/2021 21:54

Thank you everyone for your replies.

I used the online chat service for women's aid today. I had a brief chat with them and they advised that my local domestic abuse service will definitely help me. I plan on giving them a call tomorrow in my lunch break.

Honestly, thank you all so much, without the comments here I'm not sure I'd have taken the first steps to sort this out. I wasn't sure if I was being over dramatic about it all tbh.

PerseverancePays · 08/11/2021 20:15

You are not being over dramatic at all. He is a very unpleasant person and please work on a plan to leave him. I’m sure your older children will be very relieved when you no longer share a house. And your younger children will be spared living with him full time.
Leaving is complex and there’s lots of different elements. It’s best to treat them like labour contractions; one at a time. If you think of all of them then it’ll be overwhelming.
Keep on keeping on, you are doing the right thing.🌻

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