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It needs to end but no idea where to start

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IWannaQuitTheGym · 06/11/2021 12:57

Simple as that really. I don't know why I'm finding it so hard, but I am. I'll try to give a bit of background and will try to keep it brief, so much has happened but I'll be here all day if I wrote it all down. I've had to namechange as I previously had a long thread on here after I discovered a pretty bad betrayal. My husband found it a few months later and read it all and went mad that I was 'posting our private business to a load of internet randoms'.

In our 30s, together since teens, 2 children (one is at secondary school). We muddled along quite happily without any major issues, it's only the last few years that issues have started to come out and at first I was so desperate to keep us together I thought we could overcome anything together but I'm just not feeling that way any more.

He can be quite intimidating during arguments. He's never hurt me physically (nor threatened it) so I can't even explain why I feel scared but I do. He shouts very loudly and has been known to throw/break things, once he kicked the TV and smashed it but that was about 4 years ago now. Things turned really nasty back in the summer because I went out to visit a friend but lied about where I was going (I realise I shouldn't have lied, I did it because we were having issues and I wanted to go and talk to this friend and I knew he didn't like me talking about our issues to other people), I told him I was visiting a family member. A couple of days later after a family funeral I got home and he confronted me about lying where I had been previously, he had checked the tracker on our car and got very close, shouting in my face and demanding my phone from me, this was in front of our 10 year old child.

Around 2 and a half years ago he developed feelings for a colleague, I'm not sure whether to call it a crush or an emotional affair as nothing ever happened between them but he definitely let it affect our relationship, there were things like constantly googling her name and photos of her saved on his phone, writing her a letter about how lovely she was (I dont think he ever sent it, but still). I was devastated but I loved him and wanted to make it work so I tried to get past it.

A few months after that I caught him on fabswingers, he had an active profile and had been messaging women talking about meeting for sex. I'm 99% sure he never actually met anyone (but of course I'll never know that for sure and who knows what would have happened if I hadnt caught him when I did) but still, the intent was there and it was just another betrayal, another kick in the teeth after I had forgiven the colleague thing. I made him leave for a few days but I was a pathetic weak mess and I took him back.

We're now 2 years on from that and for a while I felt like we were doing OK and were happy again but if I'm really honest with myself, I was kidding myself. People told me at the time that I would never look at him in the same way again and they were right. I don't feel I can ever trust him 100% again, I sometimes wonder if he ever goes on hook up sites but the worst thing is, I don't even think I care very much. I feel like if I caught him again, that would be my excuse to end it. I've spent over 2 years kidding myself that things could change and I could be happy with him agan but I've accepted now that wont happen.

At times though I just feel a crippling sadness that we've failed. At one point we were so happy, I married him so I obviously at one point thought we would be together forever. I came from a broken home and I never wanted that for my kids. I loved him so much, it's so sad. But with everything that's happened it's like it's just numbed my feelings for him. I don't think I could ever feel that way about him again. I hate my life most of the time, I feel constantly anxious and on edge.

Please be kind, I know what I need to do but I'm finding it difficult for reasons I'm not even sure of myself. I'm scared he'll try to make me move out and leave the kids with him. I've worked all through the pandemic and now I juggle my busy job alongside being a mature student, meanwhile he hasn't really worked properly in 2 years (apart from the odd freelance thing once or twice a month). I'm quite concerned he'd use this as an excuse to be the main carer. But then again my eldest child has told me they don't want to live with dad any more, they want to live with me. Says it all really doesn't it. I know what I need to do. Just wanted to get this out and I've had really good advice from here before.

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ftw163532 · 06/11/2021 13:05

You need to speak to Women's Aid and a solicitor. Make decisions based on competent professional advice not your imagination and fears (Or his threats).

so I can't even explain why I feel scared but I do. He shouts very loudly and has been known to throw/break things, once he kicked the TV and smashed it

You feel scared because he has deliberately trained you to be afraid. It's very obvious why you would be scared. Smashing up the house delivers a very clear message that "if you don't fall in line this will be you next". That's why he does that.

You're not overreacting or being sensitive or weak. He is violent and abusive and you are naturally afraid as a result.

You are experiencing domestic violence and you need support from people qualified to help with that (which will mean you need to clearly tell any solicitor that domestic violence is occurring - no minimising or hinting and hoping they guess, use those actual words).

layladomino · 06/11/2021 13:08

He is controlling and intimidating. He is aggressive to you, and in front of your children. He is abusive.

Please seek help to get away from him, for your sake and especially your children's.

IWannaQuitTheGym · 06/11/2021 13:09

It's weird though, he's never been physically abusive and I'm pretty sure he never would be (although I do understand stuff like this can escalate). Deep down I know he's just a coward. So it baffles me why I feel scared.

I forgot to say, I did have a free half hour with a solicitor a few months ago who did say that it's likely my eldest child's wishes of wanting to stay with me would be taken into account (should it get to court). And that they wouldn't separate my kids unless it was extreme circumstances. Having to leave my kids is my biggest fear tbh. My eldest has said on more than one occasion they dont want to live with dad any more. I know what I need to do.

Unfortunately Womens Aid werent much help when I went on their live chat. Just said that as we are both on our tenancy I can't make him leave as we're both legally entitled to be there, and that I should call police if he ever got physical. Which I obvously would anyway.

Ugh I'm just so sad ALL the time and I know it's not healthy. I just want to remember what feeling happy is like! And i dont want my kids growing up seeing a messed up relationship like I had to.

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ftw163532 · 06/11/2021 13:30

he's never been physically abusive

Yes, he has. You described it.

Anyway, so what steps have you taken since seeing the solicitor? Did you tell them there was domestic violence?

Which part of your plan do you need help with?

IWannaQuitTheGym · 06/11/2021 13:38

Anyway, so what steps have you taken since seeing the solicitor? Did you tell them there was domestic violence?

I spoke with the solicitor the day after he kicked off demanding my phone etc. I told him at that point that I was done and I'm not happy being in a relationship with him any more and I'm sick of feeling constantly intimidated. He told me I was being ridiculous, he has 'never been intimidating or made me do anything I dont want to do' but he would be leaving in hs own time.

Since then though nothing has happened. Life has just sort of carried on. He acts like things are fine again even though he must surely see I don't want him near me. There's no happiness, no affection (I don't want it). So basically nothing is going to change unless I do something about it.

Which part of your plan do you need help with?

I'm not even sure. Erm, everything? Lol sorry. Financially I think I would just about manage. It's more just what I do about the tenancy, how we figure out access with the kids, how I actually make him leave. I don't think anyone can help me with that though. I'm pretty sure he will be difficult about leaving, and will say I should be the one to leave.

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gonnabeok · 06/11/2021 13:51

OP, you need to speak to a domestic violence officer within your local police and report the abuse. They can assess the level of risk you face. If you are in a rental with a housing association/ council they can liaise with the senior housing officer and he can be removed from the tenancy.he cannot make you leave. Go onto the National Domestic Violence Centre website they can help with non molestation applications and taking statements and you can self refer. There is no fee for a non molestation application .

SweetBabyCheeses99 · 06/11/2021 14:30

Is it a private rental? There lots of info online. You can just end a joint tenancy, doesn’t need both of you to agree. Sure your landlord would rather keep you on by yourself under a contract since you’re the earner anyway.

SweetBabyCheeses99 · 06/11/2021 14:30

Sorry forgot this

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