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Is he lying?

27 replies

IrishKatie1971 · 02/11/2021 20:20

New to this forum, briefly I am female, coming up to turning 50 years old. I live in Ireland but met my Moroccan boyfriend whilst travelling in France, as he has family there. We have been in a long-distance relationship for around 6 years. Covid has caused problems for us of course but we are doing our best to Facetime as much as possible and keep in touch every day with Whatsapp messages as well.

He is 56 so a little older than me. Is divorced with two children who live in France with their mother. he splits his time between France and Morocco and is now planning to return to Morocco for good. He is fairly well off for a typical average Moroccan person and has several properties with tenants in them, however, does sometimes have problems being paid the rent, but generally is comfortably off, as is the rest of his large family.

I don't want to enter into any kind of lengthy presentation of our relationship and the problems we have been through, but to summarise, we have had trust issues before, as I found out that he was registered on a couple of dating sites after we had an argument, however, we were not broken up, we talked and I thought we had sorted things out. He initially denied it was him and claimed it was a friend using his phone. The lying was more upsetting than actually discovering he was on the sites. He also claimed he never actually used them and that we were split up at the time, but we were still talking every single day and he was being "loving" by email, Whatsapp etc. There have been other issues, broken promises and poor behaviour towards me and he has been manipulative in other ways too and I actually ended it last year, finally feeling unable to forgive him repeatedly when his behaviour went unchanged yet again. Then he had a family tragedy several months back and contacted me and we began talking again with a view to me visiting him again, but I am having serious doubts.

On Saturday we exchanged texts and audio messages about what we were up to. He said he was doing DIY all day and the last I heard from him was around 6 pm. I was at work on Saturday and when I got home I sent him a couple of Whatspp messages asking if he finished his decorating at around 9 pm. They were delivered with the two ticks but remained unread. Nothing too unusual. Then nothing the next day until gone 1 pm. The messages were read at 12 pm. An audio apologising for the radio silence and that he had been at the police station being interviewed by the chief of police regarding a domestic dispute on Saturday night, and he had been there from 9 pm and left around 1 pm. Then he was at the local market on Sunday morning. His voice sounded very faltering and almost aggressive in the message.

There is a dispute going on in his family and an actual physical fight on Thursday between two of his brothers and half-brothers over inheritance. He claims he was not involved and did not even see the fight, but that a family member has accused him of attacking them. He told me about it at length in a video call on the Friday. I really do not know whether to believe him. Would the chief of police call someone in to be interviewed on a Saturday night, of all times? When I was involved in an incident there many moons ago, I was asked to present for interview with my passport etc. the following day at a normal time of day. I also find it interesting that he cites the time he went to the police HQ at exactly the time I messaged him.

I may be overthinking things, but after all our trust issues, him going off the radar again and telling what feels like a very tall tale, has really annoyed me and I just want to end it for good now. Feedback would be much appreciated.

OP posts:
IrishKatie1971 · 02/11/2021 20:23

Arghhh typos... correction:

On Saturday we exchanged texts and audio messages about what we were up to. He said he was doing DIY all day and the last I heard from him was around 6 pm. I was at work on Saturday and when I got home I sent him a couple of Whatspp messages asking if he finished his decorating at around 9 pm. They were delivered with the two ticks but remained unread. Nothing too unusual. Then nothing the next day until gone 1 pm. The messages were read on Sunday at 12 pm. An audio apologising for the radio silence and that he had been at the police station being interviewed by the chief of police regarding a domestic dispute on Saturday night, and he had been there from 9 pm and left around 1 am. Then he was at the local market on Sunday morning. His voice sounded very faltering and almost aggressive in the message.

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5128gap · 02/11/2021 20:28

Theres no way of knowing if its true or not but the fact you doubt him is to me reason to end it. Long distance is far from ideal as it is and if you're going to make the sacrifices and put the work in that it requires, it should be very very good indeed with minimal other issues. This doesn't sound good enough to waste your time on.

ILoveShula · 02/11/2021 20:29

Probably

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 02/11/2021 20:31

Sounds like a total waste of your time and energy. Just end it. Where would you see it going anyway?

ivykaty44 · 02/11/2021 20:45

If you don't trust someone then, as others have said, what is the point in continuing a relationship with him?

Evelyn52 · 02/11/2021 20:49

Oh god move on and get rid life's too short for this level of drama and lies, of course he's full of shit. Imagine your best friend writing you this in a text what would you tell her to do?

Youknownothingsnow · 02/11/2021 20:50

Do you think he may have been meeting another woman?

IrishKatie1971 · 02/11/2021 20:57

@Evelyn52

Oh god move on and get rid life's too short for this level of drama and lies, of course he's full of shit. Imagine your best friend writing you this in a text what would you tell her to do?
I LOVE LOVE LOVE this, thank you Evelyn52!!!
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Opentooffers · 02/11/2021 21:52

So what of the future anyway? Do you ever want to live in Morocco? Is there an aim in future? You've basically been penpals for years and can't expect exclusivity under those circumstances, so it's no surprise he was on an app - you should be on one yourself instead of hanging on to this situation.

TheFoundations · 02/11/2021 22:55

Why do you phrase it as 'we've had trust issues' when what you mean is that he's repeatedly lied to you and deceived you. It's not 'trust issues' when you don't trust a liar, it's a natural consequence. It sounds like you're trying to take part of the responsibility for the 'issues', when he's actually crapping on you from a great height, repeatedly, whilst you turn a blind eye.

TheFoundations · 02/11/2021 22:57

@ivykaty44

If you don't trust someone then, as others have said, what is the point in continuing a relationship with him?
And this.

People in healthy relationships don't post on forums to find out if their partner is lying.

You need to have a look into what it is inside you that makes you think that this is the sort of relationship you should be in.

me4real · 02/11/2021 23:03

If he hopes to permanently move back to Morocco, I would see that as a lack of commitment to the relationship and basically acting as if it has no future potential of living together etc.

If he was really into you/planning for the relationship to eventually progress to living together or anything, he would've stayed in Europe IMHO. Unless he expects you to move to Morocco eventually.

He sounds like bad news- and not committed either.

Aquamarine1029 · 02/11/2021 23:08

Fucking hell, op. Haven't you wasted enough time? You don't trust this man, yet here you are still allowing him a space in your life. You're too old for this shit, surely? You know better.

CandidClarisse · 02/11/2021 23:18

As they say around here bin!

This is obviously not going anywhere, if he was committed to you he would be making arrangements for you and him to at least live in the same country. What do you get from this and what do you see in the future?

I mean if you just wanted a distance thing then that's ok but he seems to cause you a lot or hassle and stress for something that appears to the outside as very casual and uncommitted. You deserve better OP

MsDogLady · 02/11/2021 23:20

Wow Katie. So far this Loser has sneaked onto dating sites and blamed his friend, broken his promises, and been manipulative. Now comes a tall tale about being interviewed by police for 4 hours on Saturday night.

Why on earth would you settle for this lying cheat who treats you with contempt?

Pumpkinsonparade · 02/11/2021 23:22

My mil was scammed out of 80k +++

Be careful op...

HollowTalk · 02/11/2021 23:24

I am laughing reading this. Come on you can't possibly think that we are going to say oh he sounds gorgeous and so reliable and trustworthy. Please do sell up your house and go and live in Morocco and give him all your money.

He's a complete and utter liar and a fantasist. You are old enough to know better! Just block him, I wouldn't even bother telling him why.

Pinkbonbon · 02/11/2021 23:42

All else asside, there's no way someone spends 6 years in a different country to you and is faithful. Not unless you fly out there ever other weekend or vice versa. I mean seriously op, of course he is dating other women. So if that's a problem for you then on that alone I'd end it. But he also sounds like far too much drama.

Pumpkinsonparade · 02/11/2021 23:49

Mil's 'dh' lived in another country for 6 years... Was apparently building them a house with the 80k she sent him.

HollowTalk · 02/11/2021 23:51

What happened, @Pumpkinsonparade?

Anordinarymum · 02/11/2021 23:54

I just want to echo what everyone else has said. Block him from your life, it is going nowhere for you.
Best of luck

PussInBin20 · 03/11/2021 00:00

Maybe he got arrested? maybe he’s not actually divorced and the family tragedy didn’t happen at all. I mean how can you really know that anything he says is true?

I can’t really understand why someone would stay in this “relationship” when you are not even in the same country. Seems a waste of time and energy to me 🤷‍♀️

Peach01 · 03/11/2021 00:15

You could only speculate whether he's lying or not.
He has a track record of it though. I've never had a LDR but I would imagine that trust would be paramount as it must be incredibly difficult at times. If you're unsure as to whether or not you can trust what he's telling you, I think you need to rethink the relationship.
He may be truthful but it almost doesn't matter if it's going to cause you anxiety or make you question how honest he is.
He's moving to Morocco for good, while you're in Ireland. Is it all worth it?

Salayes · 03/11/2021 06:28

Agreed with the others. Impossible to tell if he’s lying or not, though your telling would make me think he was arrested and involved. But if he’s due to live in Morocco permanently now and you had broken up anyway, there doesn’t seem much point in continuing. What good would a visit do even if it comes off? Another 6 years of long distance with someone you can’t trust?

Pumpkinsonparade · 03/11/2021 07:59

Fil paid it off..
MUG.

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