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How to plan an exit

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synonym911 · 30/10/2021 11:10

I gave up my job, married and moved across two countries with my husband. I am now living in London and am financially dependent on my husband. I have started looking for a job and hopefully will find something very soon.

My husband does not like that he is the sole financial provider and has called me a mooch, lazy, and a bum. Its not like I don't want to work but there has been so much going on in the marriage... he has always been so critical. He has called me stupid, idiot and other names. He also asked me to show my degree transcripts because he can't believe I could have passed. During a period of time I had to write what I am going to do every hour of every day and update him at the end of the day about the number of Jobs that I have applied to and what I did on that day. He also bought a house in the interim and my name is not on it. I have paid for service charges and such a couple of times from my meagre savings but he hasn't given me any money for the past 5 years and I feel very insecure about my financial status.

When I put the knife in the kitchen the wrong way, he has a few times grabbed me by the neck. I always felt that I am walking on eggshells and used to be scared of him coming back home as I knew I would be berated about my lack of job. When I did work briefly it still didn't make matters better, he said it's because I am on his visa, that I got the job because of his recommendation etc. We have had no intimacy in the marriage for the past 5 years and he has said that it's because of my lack of job. The lack of intimacy and his critical comments got to me and I fell into depression. I also developed tmj disorder and other physical ailments due to the stress. I always have to prepare myself before having a conversation with him because even if I say a word out of order or my tone changes... he will pounce on it. So before broaching any topic I think of all the cross questions that he could come up with and prepare myself with suitable responses to them and only then I am able to get my point across. But when I do make my point and if he does understand and agrees after cross questioning then the behaviour doesn't continue. It's this discontinuing of bad behaviour that gave me the false hope to continue with the marriage as I believed he listens to me and alerts his behaviour. There is so much more that has gone down but I dont think I can write it all down. Suffice to say I need to prepare myself to leave. His lack of interest in physical intimacy has at least ensured that I don't have children to think about it which I suppose is the only silver lining.

I find myself at the age of 36 with no job, kids or savings or any source of income and feel so embarrassed and ashamed about it all. All my friends have climbed the corporate ladder and have multiple kids, beautiful homes and social, financial and emotional security. And here I am in so much worse state than before my marriage. I am scared when I think about leaving and starting over. Logically I know it can only be better than what I am going through but I feel like I have no sense of my own identity anymore and have become a shell of a person I used to be. It might sound idiotic but I wish he would have just hit me or done something so very bad that can't be misinterpreted and would have given me no choice but to leave so I would have left a long time ago. This feels like a slow death by a thousand cuts or being a stone eroded by water... where nothing seems too big a deal or something that can't be worked out. But just living through it hour by hour and day by day , it's just erodes the sense of self to the degree that I don't know who I am anymore.

I know I have to plan my exit. So apart from finding a job, what else should I be looking at? How do I regain back my sense of self? I feel that I would feel better prepared to take the next step if I knew all the things that needed to be done...

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Harlequin1088 · 30/10/2021 11:16

I'm so sorry you're going through this, OP.

Plan your exit safely. He's already demonstrated violent tendencies so I suggest you leave one day when he's at work rather than trying to do it on a day when he's home in case he attempts to forcibly stop you.

Ensure you have all your paperwork packed - passport, educational certificates, bank statements, birth certificate, driving license, the lot - as it'll be much harder to return for it all later.

Contact Women's Aid and ask for support in getting out safely.

File for divorce once you're safely away from him.

Change your number so that he cannot contact you to attempt to harass and bully you into returning.

Wishing you all the best xx

Frankii · 30/10/2021 11:19

I think you need to leave, as soon as possible, and try for a refuge. This man could kill you. Going for the neck is one of the biggest indicators that domestic abuse can turn deadly apparently. Thanks

DanceAllDay · 30/10/2021 11:24

That’s a wrinkle situation you are in. I’ve read so many threads in here, so will try my best to add some of the hinges I remember reading.

Firstly, however, you are married. That does offer you financial protection. Also, don’t leave England until you’re divorced, if I remember rightly then divorce laws are stronger here and you won’t be left without your fair share. I say England as there may be differences in Scotland or Wales.

Secondly, if it’s safe, stay where you are until you have everything you need to leave as you won’t get an opportunity to do so once you have gone.

Thirdly, open up a PO Box thing so you can have your post directed there.

Fourthly, see a solicitor for advice on your situation. They can also guide in terms of what type of evidence you’ll need to gather. For instance, it may be photos/photocopies of bank statements and pension details (apparently these can all be hidden!), details of the second property he has bought - you will own half of this by virtue of marriage, your name doesn’t have o be on the deeds.

Anything where he has financial dealings would all be relevant to ensure that you don’t lose your entitlement to some of them.

synonym911 · 30/10/2021 11:25

Thank you for your concerns. He didn't grab me by the neck from the front, it was from behind. Also this was more than a couple of years ago and he stopped it when I made it very clear that no matter what I would not accept that behaviour. I do not feel physically unsafe with him at the moment

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DanceAllDay · 30/10/2021 11:25

*terrible not wrinkle!

synonym911 · 30/10/2021 11:30

I am on his dependent visa and will receive a resident permit next year. I was hoping to get a job and save some money and take a call next year when I have the option to stay back in the UK if we split or go back to my home country with some savings. Also he has agreed to couples counseling which I have been asking for the past 6 years so perhaps things could work out...I don't even know if I want to stay after all that's happened to be honest but I just feel like if he has agreed to counseling... Why not give it a try

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Frankii · 30/10/2021 11:34

Don't ever do couples counselling with an abusive partner, no! He will twist it and gaslight you and the therapist. Therapy will not change him.

I think you're minimising the violence and it's impact: he has trained you to walk on eggshells before raising any point with him.

Rainbowqueeen · 30/10/2021 11:35

Women’s aid can give you assistance and advice.

There is a theory that abusers can sense a change in their victims. He may sense that you are looking at your options and this may be why he has agreed to counselling. Be wary

synonym911 · 30/10/2021 11:36

He has always been very careful about finances. I have never had access to his phone or email. I had asked him at the beginning of marriage about combining finances but he never agreed. We have never had joint accounts. I could have access to his pay slips and the property papers but his major investments are all in the home country and I do not have any knowledge or will ever have access to those

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BunNcheese · 30/10/2021 11:37

So sad OP. I think it's a blessing you do not have kids to this man. Kids are a lot of hard work and it would be a lot more stressful for you with a partner like this.

Can you look into a refugee? This is abusive here there's NOTHING to work out.

theDudesmummy · 30/10/2021 11:48

Really: Do not go to counselling with him. That will not help and may make things more dangerous, including for your mental health. You need to be away from his influence.

Plan to leave, even though it is scary as you have no resources. Have you any jewellery etc that you could sell once you are out? See a solicitor now and gather all info/documents that you can safely get. Keep them outside the home if you can (a friend's house maybe). Otherwise very carefully hidden. Then, as soon as you can, leave, change your number and email address and contact him only through the solicitor. (If you have FB messenger and/or WhatsApp you may need to come off as he may be able to contact you through these even if you change your number).

synonym911 · 30/10/2021 11:51

I don't think he would stop me from leaving...I think he wants out of this marriage himself. He has told me this marriage has less than 10% chance of functioning. I had mentioned to him before coming to London that perhaps we should end it and he convinced me otherwise. From what he has said recently he wants out...but for some reason wants me to make that call. Also I am in my home country and he didn't want me to come back to the UK. Surely abusers would want their victims close? Also he has always pushed me to work and also meet friends and family...

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romdowa · 30/10/2021 12:07

Are you currently in your home country ? If so then I would just stay there and not return to the UK.

synonym911 · 30/10/2021 12:12

@romdowa I have considered it. But I have no job or savings here either. Coming back to the UK gives me an opportunity to find a job and save some money ( the currency conversion should help) and the UK work experience will also count when I am back here after a year or if I find a good opportunity to stay back in the UK and be able to support myself

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