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How long do the ‘good periods’ last?

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V3nus · 27/10/2021 08:55

With emotionally abusive people?

Bit of background for you:

I left my ex 3 years ago. He was never physically abusive but held all the characteristics of emotional abuse such as sulking, gaslighting, lying, drank to deal with his emotions, turned all blame on to me for reacting after he would emotionally provoke/torment me.

We have a DD. He’s a reliable dad and sees her consistently.

After we split 3 years ago, he got in to another relationship which I didn’t know much about at the time - they split up after a year.

His abusive sulking and manipulation has continued in cycles the whole time we have separated including various things to do with DD such as, taking her for the weekend when she was 10 months old and withholding any contact with me whatsoever as a form of punishment for not wanting him I suppose.

Recently, he’s been nice as pie to me, trying to get in my good books basically. Tells me he admits to gaslighting me in the past and how awful that was, how sorry he is for lots of different incidents etc.
He said he loves me and always has.

Anyway, in the recent ‘nice/good phase’ he opened up about his relationship with the woman he was seeing after we split.

He says she abused him physically and that she was a narcissist. There are knuckle marks on his fridge in 3 places where he punched in it response to her ‘hitting him in the face’ and a hole in the stud wall which he also punched as he would ‘never turn his hand to a woman as he is not violent.’

Now, he is saying she brought out the worst in him but he has changed now after going to counselling which lasted about a month? And he’s saying he wants to be the best version of himself for our family etc so that we can give it another shot.

For me, there’s red flags all over the place. I have told him I don’t want to commit to trying again as I have mental scars from the past and in response to this he’s being very nice and understanding - to the point where I am anticipating him running out of this perceived understanding and exploding. I feel he’s trying to lure me back in by this ‘good period’ but it’s been about 3 months. Can good periods last that long with abusive people? They used to be much shorter when we were together. Could this be a sign of positive change? Or does he perhaps have better control over his emotions and knows unleashing now would sabotage his attempts to lure me back?

Anyway, the reason for mentioning his other relationship is that, in my opinion, I feel the marks on the fridge and hole in the wall are a sign of his lack of self control in regulating his anger, and him blaming her for provoking him is even more concerning.

How can someone like that apparently change after just a month of counselling? I just don’t buy it but he’s not buckled yet or turned nasty to me despite my repeated rejection. Could he have reached some self awareness or am I right to be anticipating another shit storm?

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Kanaloa · 27/10/2021 08:59

Absolute madness. If he’s changed then congratulate him, but stepping in the same shit twice is just ridiculous.

People don’t change. Certainly not after three months. And even if he has changed why not just go and find someone who doesn’t need to change because they’ve never been abusive.

BigButtons · 27/10/2021 08:59

They will last until he gets what he wants and then he will revert. If you hold out and keep refusing he will revert . It’s all an act.
Glad you are seeing it for what it is. Don’t have him back under any circs .

V3nus · 27/10/2021 09:03

Just for clarification - I’m not contemplating getting back in to another relationship with him.

My reason for wondering about how long the niceness will last is I guess I have been relaxed feeling like because he’s been understanding recently, therefore he won’t blow up with my rejection to his offer to try again. But I feel I’m daft to think he will understand for long. And I guess I need to mentally prepare for the cycle to continue at some point when he realises how serious I am when I say no.

I guess I hope he has changed because it would make our co parenting life much easier than it has been previously but I feel like I am expecting too much from someone who has quite the history of being very irrational and short tempered.

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Dozer · 27/10/2021 09:07

He is very unlikely to have changed.

Why are you even talking to him at all about his relationship with his ex and you and he possibly getting back together?

His behaviour / his ex’s behaviour in their relationship: of no relevance to you, except with respect to how DD was affected.

It’d be far, far better only to interact with him about your DD, practicalities such as maintenance and ‘small talk’!

Dozer · 27/10/2021 09:09

And yes, his current ‘niceness’ is likely only because you - unwisely - haven’t said no to getting back together.

V3nus · 27/10/2021 09:13

@Dozer thank you for your reply. However, I have said in my post that I have said no to getting back together which is why I am astounded that he hasn’t reacted badly yet.

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V3nus · 27/10/2021 09:14

But I also admit we shouldn’t be communicating so closely for him to even open up to me about the ex.
I just feel scared to put up strong boundaries to him contacting me because of how he has previously acted with his sulkiness and being unreasonable etc.
I know this is something I need to get stronger with.

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Kanaloa · 27/10/2021 09:16

Yes, in that case his current ‘niceness’ will be to try and wear away at you or ‘win you over.’

I know you say you feel scared to put boundaries up because of his nastiness/sulkiness but that’s because he’s abused you and you’re scared of him. If anything it makes those boundaries even more important.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 27/10/2021 09:24

Google "grey rock technique"

You need to make him see you as too boring to be a victim.

V3nus · 27/10/2021 09:29

@Kanaloa thank you. I fear that this is true, but I think I am yet to reach acceptance of it.
I want him to be better for our DD, so I am clinging on to the concept of him changing because it makes me feel happier about him being a better role model for her. I know I need to just accept that this is very unlikely, and his niceness is most likely temporary and unrealistic.

@EvenMoreFuriousVexation thank you, I will research this

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