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My mum isn't interested in/supportive of my pregnancy/life

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Blueberrybuns · 23/10/2021 21:54

I'm due go give birth to my first, much longed for, baby in November. My mum has a lot of complex emotional baggage and was not always very stable when I was growing-up. At best, emotional neglect and worst emotional abuse eg swearing, blame, anger, criticism, emototional dependency, largely as a result her own poor mental health and trauma. Things were often very tense or emotionally chaotic.
Our relationship has been through ups and downs but I have always resisted estrangement and at times over the years, we had managed a nicer relationship. She is ultimately very selfish and insecure. For example, she has told me she prefers me not to be around when she sees my nieces because they like playing with me. This is purely because they don't see me much as I work shifts. She can be cruel but I have ways given her the benefit of the doubt knowing that she is lonely and insecure. That has been until this pregnancy, which has made me seriously question whether hurtful interactions with her are worth it. She refuses to visit me where I live, has made comments like my partner's mother can be more involved with the baby and has stopped calling me despite me being open about how hard I'm finding things. I'm sure the root of it all is her own insecurity but I'm getting the the point where each hurtful interaction is just depressing me and that's not a good headspace before baby comes.
Has anyone else struggled with their own mother's reaction/lack of support towards their pregnancy?

At one point, I had to have an extra scan and when I messaged her from the hospital with the all clear she didn't reply or call. I rang her later and she said she had seen the message but been busy. Incidents like this make me question whether estrangement may actually be a better idea. Because try as I might, I am deeply hurt by her rejections.
I also feel I owe my baby a relationship with her grandmother.

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category12 · 23/10/2021 22:15

I also feel I owe my baby a relationship with her grandmother.

I don't really get that - you want to give your child the opportunity to get treated cruelly by her grandmother as well? There's no saying that she'll be a better gran to your child than she is a mother to you.

romdowa · 23/10/2021 22:17

You need to protect your dc from this woman. No baby needs a grandmother like that.

user1470132907 · 23/10/2021 22:26

Yeah, we kept on trying after he arrived (all 3 living grandparents like this or worse, sadly) but when my son started to be aware enough to notice for himself, we had to cut ties completely. I feel sad he doesn’t have the grandparents I did (mine are probably the reason I am still here today) but his actual grandparents will never be like that. Very hard and sad to admit that.

I doubt myself constantly and think I must be the daughter who deserves what I got (likewise my husband) but the reality was, even if they were benign, they would have zero practical input into his life (their choice) and we can buy an extra gift to replace anything grandparents might have theoretically have bought him, and can make sure it isn’t completely broken and is wrapped.

user1470132907 · 23/10/2021 22:28

A specialist red flag was when my mum said I mustn’t get angry when pregnant with my son (she had pulled a blinder) because my ‘hate’ was why I miscarried my first two 🤨

AttilaTheMeerkat · 23/10/2021 23:05

"I also feel I owe my baby a relationship with her grandmother".

Why?. Ask yourself why you're feeling like that. That's probably out of you feeling FOG (fear, obligation and guilt) which are three of many damaging legacies such abusive people leave their now adult children. Societal convention?. Your mother was and remains abusive and dismissive towards you. Toxic parents like this more often than not are toxic as grandparents too; keep her well away from you both going forward.

Its not your fault your mother is like this and you did not make her that way. Her own family did that lot of damage to her; what if anything do you know about her own family background or childhood?. That often gives clues.

Your child needs emotionally healthy role models in her life; not an abusive and thus emotionally unhealthy grandmother in her life. Relationships also are two way; if your mother cannot behave at all decently or civilly around you, why would she behave any better with your child?. Short answer is that she will not.

Do read "Toxic Parents" by Susan Forward.

FrenchBoule · 24/10/2021 09:35

The only person you owe is your baby. You owe it love and care and not relationship with GM who not only doesn’t give a shit about her DD but makes sure her wants are put above everybody’s needs.

Some people are impossible to please no matter how hard you try. Most parents have their kids best interests at heart,your mother is clearly not one of them.

Drop the rope and lower your expectations. Find people who actually want to be around you,are kind and supportive.

Having crap parents has one good side - you know exactly what NOT to do when you have your own kids who are loved,cuddled,wanted and nurtured.

Avarua · 24/10/2021 09:44

It takes a special kind of person to be interested in scans. Likewise most people aren't as interested in other people's pregnancies as they pretend to be....
I'd go easy on her. She might become more interested when the baby is here and a bit older.

Pollyanna58 · 24/10/2021 10:09

As a grandma, I would say you owe her nothing. Being a grandma is a special privilege and you need to explain that to her if she hasn’t worked it out.
If I’d been allowed, I would have been there when my grandchild was born, (not in a stalker way😬) only because I was so proud of my child doing what she was doing and I wanted to be part of it. I poured over scan photos and still keep one where I can see it 😁 !
Put in firm boundaries, and try and see her as a distant relative if she isn’t emotionally available.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 24/10/2021 10:29

Avarua

re your comment:-
"I'd go easy on her".

I think you need to read ALL of the OPs initial post again before making such a pronouncement.

Blueberrybuns · 24/10/2021 22:40

Thanks everyone. For the first time in my life, I have to think about the impact on someone else. I've put up with a lot myself but if I want to be a stable mother to my own child, I can't afford to keep opening myself up to being hurt by her behaviour. I take on board what people are saying about protecting my baby too. I feel really sad and hurt but right now, but also a slight sense of relief, like I can give myself permission to draw a line under it. I've never felt that before, I've always gone back hoping for an change. She is deeply damaged and I feel really sorry for her but I can't change the situation.

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Reptar · 24/10/2021 22:50

Thats a really healthy response. You gave the relationship a chance, it isn't your fault it didn't work out. You don't hold any resentment and can move forwards.

Having kids is what made me go NC, I've never regretted it. The lack of drama is such a relief, it was like losing a toothache.

Blueberrybuns · 14/11/2021 20:00

@Reptar sorry I missed your comment. It feels like the right thing for my mental health but it feels very painful to try to accept how terrible the relationship is. I feel like I'm grieving some days and others like I should try harder to fix it but I l l know I can't actually change anything on my own.
At what point did you go NC? Had your children met your mother? Did she try to get in touch or did she just accept your boundaries? Did you make an official step or did you just do it happen gradually? Sorry so many questions. Thanks for your supportive reply. Sorry you have suffered similarly.

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