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What is your most twisted story of gaslighting?

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ArdeaCinerea · 18/10/2021 14:27

This is mine, still haunting me, has come back to my mind recently. This guy tells me over the phone that he has new supply. I reply we should cut contact and I will drop off my copy of his flat key in the mail. He insists we should talk about things in person.

I go to his place, I want to give him the key. He says we will stay friends, so he wants me to keep the key as a sign of his trust, we have “a special connection” that he doesn’t have with the new supply or anybody else. He is very calm, I am upset and sad. I cry and I tell him he has treated me badly, none of this makes any sense etc. He doesn’t like that, so he starts turning away from me while he’s talking, I have to keep moving around him, otherwise I’m looking at the back of his head. I pat his arm: “Can you try to look at me while you’re talking to me?”

He takes a step back and yells: “I thought you had a fork in your hand and you were going to stab me with it! I was so scared right now!” There is nothing in my hand. But he continues to babble about the imaginary fork, that I have scared him, he has never been so scared before in his life. “You should give me my flat key now, who knows what you were going to do with it!” He says I triggered his trauma (he had all these stories of being abused and beaten by his parents and exes.) I give him the key, I apologise profusely for scaring him. I cry even more. He is very stern and aloof now. I ask him to please believe me that I would never hurt him or anyone. He replies “Never mind, I can’t say that, but we’re OK now, we can still be friends”. I leave in a state of confusion.

After that I kept replaying the “fork” incident in my mind, and cried my eyes out. The guilt over thinking I’ve scared him plunged me into depression. I kept thinking of that small arm pat and whether it could’ve been construed as a violent gesture by anyone, whether I am an abusive woman. Maybe it wasn’t a pat? Maybe I hit him and my mind is misremembering? Maybe I did have a fork? I questioned my own memories. Why a fork? Why a stabbing? Why would his mind go there? (It seems weird I valued his perspective over mine, but this was after 3 years of constant manipulation and gaslighting.)

In the following weeks he called me a few times, but I didn’t answer. I wondered why he would call me if I was so scary and abusive. Later on we spoke again casually because I was foolishly still looking for "an answer". Within 2 sentences he was inviting me to drop by at his place for a friendly chat. I refused and asked why he would want in his house a woman who scared him and made him think of stabbings? He claimed he didn’t remember the incident initially, then he shrugged. “It was just a feeling I had. You can’t blame people for their feelings. Why are you still thinking about it? It was fine, nobody got stabbed.”

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thebestnamesweregone · 19/10/2021 21:56

You'll not find many on here that wish to re visit and certainly tell,
My experience was so appalling it would make a harrowing film

Now it's in my bastard mind and I can't face my food!

Larabananas · 19/10/2021 22:11

My ex convinced the health visitor that I was suffering from post natal depression after the birth of our youngest.. Er no, he just decided to dump me when she was 2 months old! Thank god for my doctor. The ex had me so convinced that I was going mad I asked for a referral, my Dr said if it was something I really wanted then of course but in her opinion it was nothing to do with my (beautiful) baby and everything to do with my toxic ex and her advice was to stay well away from him. That was years ago now and I still feel so grateful that she said that. It was so what I needed to hear.

Downunderduchess · 19/10/2021 22:22

He sounds like a bloody lunatic. You’re better off without him. Move on & forget him.

What is your most twisted story of gaslighting?
Downunderduchess · 19/10/2021 22:23

By the way, I meant the pic I posted to be an example of his gaslighting!

Larabananas · 19/10/2021 22:45

My ex is still at it! Years and years after our split (when he chose to leave due to his affair, I eventually found out) he has now told all his family that he is the victim of parental alienation and the reason why his kids do not get on with him is completely down to me.. Apparently he would do anything for his kids.. Except pay for anything.. Or help them out when they ask Hmm

copernicium · 19/10/2021 22:55

Actually ended up in a psychiatric ward after being assaulted by ex during handover. Needed hospital treatment and time off work. Ex denied it, police believed him, DC weren't allowed to give evidence, so family court ruled I was lying and threatened to take DC off me if I didn't stop "going on about it".

Really did think I was going mad.

ArdeaCinerea · 19/10/2021 23:36

I am so sorry to hear so many other women endured abuse from psychopatic creeps. And thanks all for your validation/support.

Another comparatively small one, from mine: in the beginning he made a big song and dance about his morality, how opposed he was to cheating, and to any kind of "promiscuity" (he claimed he wouldn't be friends with people who are in open relationships or swingers). He had a very strict definition of cheating: having close friends of the opposite sex was cheating in his opinion. And anyone who had ever cheated was "a piece of shit."

Later, after our thing was over, he admitted with a smile that he had cheated, used sex workers, "overlapped" partners, triangulated people etc. during several of his previous relationships as well as in the new one he had just begun at the time. He described this behaviour as "not great, but people make mistakes sometimes, it's not a big deal. Why are you judgemental?" When I reminded him of his braggings about morality, he said he didn't remember saying any of that.

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anotherglassofred · 20/10/2021 21:09

Mine also visited prostitutes on a few occasions and even had one come to his house when his previous partner was away. And that is just what he has admitted to so no doubt it is probably a lot more times than that.

He told me all this on our very first weekend away. I was expecting romance and this is what I got. I was stunned and honestly I just wanted to run. But then he turned on the tears and somehow made me feel sorry for him as he was apparently having such a bad time in his previous relationship(s). So that’s OK then 🙄

ArdeaCinerea · 21/10/2021 11:49

What is it with these creeps that they like to encourage pity and use it against you? I had never encountered that before in a man and so it didn't cross my mind that it was a manipulation, all the men I had in my life before were usually doing the opposite, trying to appear stronger than they were.

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