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My husband isn't doing anything to help with our 2 month son

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abbie2831 · 10/10/2021 21:39

Hey, my husband isn't really doing any housework or helping with our 2 month son. He doesn't do anything at all unless I ask and when I do he looks really annoyed and does it very unwillingly. He doesn't argue but I can tell he's annoyed about it. Also a couple of times he hasn't done a very good job of basic things like washing up and I've moaned at him for this and he told me that I should show a bit of appreciation instead. But he shows no appreciation for everything I do. I talked to him about it and he said that I need to remember that he is tired too and that he works hard at work and that I should be more sympathetic and appreciative to him. Also he told me that he wishes I'd make more effort to connect with him but like if he wants that then he can help more. I'm really tired and stressed and feel let down by him and I don't know how to get him to do more

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AnneLovesGilbert · 10/10/2021 21:43

What was he like before the baby? Did he do housework and seem like he cared about you?

Everyone’s bloody tired with a newborn. But you pull together as a team, you’ll never make it if he thinks ha above basic care for both of you. He sounds useless, lazy, infuriating, incredibly fucking selfish!

I’d be telling him in simple terms that pitching in with the house and care of the child you both agreed to bring into the world is the very least he can do and if he refuses to do it with good grace he can fuck off and move out.

abbie2831 · 10/10/2021 21:47

@AnneLovesGilbert

What was he like before the baby? Did he do housework and seem like he cared about you?

Everyone’s bloody tired with a newborn. But you pull together as a team, you’ll never make it if he thinks ha above basic care for both of you. He sounds useless, lazy, infuriating, incredibly fucking selfish!

I’d be telling him in simple terms that pitching in with the house and care of the child you both agreed to bring into the world is the very least he can do and if he refuses to do it with good grace he can fuck off and move out.

He still does care about me I know. He was better but still didn't do as much as I would have liked and I think he should be doing more not doing less now
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Geppili · 10/10/2021 23:16

Leave him with your baby for a few hours?

Loveshelly · 11/10/2021 00:54

I mean I hate to say it. But the signs were there.

Going forward. Sit down. Make a plan. A rota. What each of your expectations are for each other, who’s going to cook/ clean/children’s needs etc etc. Might be good to put it on the fridge. make it a team effort.

Yes f that doesn’t work, then you may as well leave. Because you’ll leave anyway, just older and more ground down.

twoandeights · 11/10/2021 05:02

Sort this out now before resentment builds

Flittingaboutagain · 11/10/2021 05:18

Congratulations on your baby OP. We just had our baby three months ago. I'm sorry to say I don't hold out much hope here. You can go down the rota route, but it doesn't sound like he is going to be bothered enough to stick to it. We have a rota on our fridge here, but not to make us do chores. It is to help us remember what they all are because we're so tired!

To give you some perspective on what other new full time working dads do: my partner will regularly take the baby and tell me to go rest, he does some night shifts with expressed milk, he does almost all nappy changes and lots of hands on baby care (apart from breastfeeding!) at the weekends, he makes my lunch most days, and does the food shop and all cooking since baby came. I do all the laundry, tidying up, and look after the baby.

As I'm settling into mum life I intend to gradually take some more of the chores off him again.

Your partner should be stepping up at this point and as someone else said, trying to pull together as a team at this crazy time! I'm not sure how you know he still does care to be honest. Actions speak louder than words and all.

Shoxfordian · 11/10/2021 05:27

He sounds useless
I don’t think men like this change so it’s up to you whether you want to put up with it or not

Aquamarine1029 · 11/10/2021 05:42

Sadly, your husband is exactly the same man he was before the baby came along, it was just a lot easier for you to ignore it. If this doesn't get sorted now, the resentment is going to kill your marriage.

SuperSange · 11/10/2021 05:54

@Aquamarine1029

Sadly, your husband is exactly the same man he was before the baby came along, it was just a lot easier for you to ignore it. If this doesn't get sorted now, the resentment is going to kill your marriage.
Yup. This isn't going to improve. The time to address this was before you had a child really.

Make sure you have your own money to leave with and that you can support yourself and your child. That's my advice to you. Keep one eye on the door and have a plan.

updownroundandround · 11/10/2021 06:26

You need a truly honest and open conversation with your DH about the fact that you are both parents now, and as such, trying to keep things the way they were before is impossible.

You both need 'rest times' and time to do things for yourselves e.g gym/hobby etc.

You both need sleep.

You both need to be doing shopping/laundry/cleaning/cooking, because you both work hard (and don't let him try to get away with ''it doesn't matter if you're tired because you don't work at the moment''). Being 'on duty' 24 hrs a day/ 7 days a week is bloody hard work ! (Much harder than doing a 40hr week with coffee breaks and lunchtimes etc !!)

Bottom line is that you are meant to be a partnership, not you being the skivvy, running yourself ragged 24hrs a day, every day and night, and him carrying on as though the baby is bugger all to do with him and still 'expecting' to have his rest times in the evenings and weekends ffs !

He needs to know that you will not be continuing to do everything and have him bloody strop when you ask him to do something ! And he'll also need be told to do any jobs he doesn't complete to an acceptable standard, he will have to do again !

If he's not willing to grow with you as a partner and parent, then he knows where the door is !

updownroundandround · 11/10/2021 06:29

This is what a partner and parent should be............

Why I Don't Help My Wife
Recently, I invited a friend over. Sipping coffee in my living room, the conversation turned from movies and sports to life. We are both about the same age, and both have been married for about the same amount of time. As we talked, I heard the loud clamoring of the dishwasher stop as it finished its final cycle. Excusing myself, I told my friend I must put away the dishes.My friend shot me a glance: a shock of disbelief, almost defensive in posture. He told me that it's great that I help out my wife, but that he doesn't bother. “Every time I do chores,” he said, “she doesn't have an ounce of gratitude. If she's not gonna thank me for helping her out, why should I even bother?” This startled me. I'm normally not a confrontational kind of guy. I don't like to talk about politics, and I usually keep my comments to myself. But this was too much. I couldn't contain myself.“Look man, I said, I'm not 'helping her out. My wife doesn't need 'help.' She needs a partner. The two of us are a team.” He started to reply, trying to explain what he meant by the comment, but I stopped him, continuing:I don't “help” my wife clean the house. We keep our house clean because we both live here and want the house to be clean. I clean the house because it's where I live, and my wife isn't a maid, but a partner.I don't “help” my wife cook because it's not her job to cook and my job to eat. We both live here, we both need to eat, and in order for us to eat, the cooking needs to be done.I don't “help” my wife do the dishes because they're my dishes, too. I eat off them, just like her, and it's in both of our interests to have them be cleaned.I don't “help” my wife with her children because they're my children, too. They need a mother and they need a father, and raising them is both of our jobs.I don't “help” my wife clean, fold clothes, do laundry, or any other chores because they aren't only “hers,” but mine.I'm not only a “help,” a hired hand that helps my wife out on occasion in exchange for a “thank you,” a kiss, or sex. I am a part of the house.Then, I turned back to my friend, his face tense with embarrassment. I was now in my full preacher mode, and it was time to charge my audience with conviction. I asked him “do you thank your wife every time she cleans the house?” He clamored to defend himself, but I continued: “I'm not talking about a half-baked “thanks” that you mutter from across the room, but actually looking her in her eye and saying that you appreciate that she worked all day to help you take care of your home!” “Do you look her in the eye and tell her she's fantastic, beautiful, the best thing that ever happened to you and that she means the world to you?” “Do you tell her how much you love that she keeps your house clean?”You should not “help” your wife with the chores in exchange for some kind of prize. What prize does she get for helping you out? You need to get out of this “Leave it to Beaver” mentality, step out of TV Land, and step up and be a real husband.My friend stood speechless, flabbergasted, fumbling to find an excuse. I shrunk in slight embarrassment for a moment, even though I knew it had to be said.I spoke again to break the silence: “I'm just saying man, your wife doesn't owe you anything. She's not your “help,” and you should treat her like an equal partner.”Many of us were raised in home with mothers who waited on us hand in foot. We took their help for granted, because they had to raise us and take care of us. But your wife is not your mother. She's not raising you, and you're not a child. Marriage is an equal partnership. Your wife is not your mother, and she's not there to take care of you.You are there to take care of each other, to have a house together, raise children together, and form an equal partnership. That means each of you carrying your share of the load, and thanking each other for help. Macho culture would make you think that everything is your wife's job, but there's nothing macho about this. It's the behavior of a child who needs to be taken care of, not an adult who can provide in a partnership.Imagine a child who constantly demands help from his mother, constantly makes messes, and never thanks her for anything. That's basically how you act towards your wife. That might be acceptable for a young infant, but not for an adult. So thank your wife for what she does, and make sure that you carry an equal share of the load, helping her in any way possible.When you make a mess, you shouldn't expect your wife to clean it up. It's your job to clean up your own messes. You both live there, you're not “helping” her with anything because it's your home.Likewise, it's not her job to constantly cook. In my home, I always do the cooking, because I'm good at it.These “traditional” roles were sold to us by fictional television. They say nothing about the reality of marriage. If you step all over your wife like Homer Simpson, you are on a one-way street to a divorce.So to everyone out there who is concerned about their own masculinity, if you want to be a macho man, stop acting like a child and making your wife do all the work and chores. Thank her, and do your part to contribute.

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