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Stuck in middle of an affair - please help

31 replies

Bobbie1976 · 07/10/2021 17:52

Hi I'm new here.

A close friend of mine has recently confided in me that she is having an affair. I know both her and her husband. The affair started with a man who she used to date about 20 years ago, and the guy contacted her out of the blue on social media last year. Because of covid, she's only been able to see him once and when they met up face to face, despite saying she wasn't attracted to him, she went ahead and spent the weekend having sex - which she says was not a good experience. Despite lulling her into doing whatever he wanted, included things she hadn't tried before, he said he was tired, not at his best and on the last day they were to meet up, he left her alone in a hotel room all day, and she was totally distraught.

Despite this he talked her round and they continued to chat (they live in separate towns) and arranged another trip to meet. She told me of her uneasiness around this and a few days before she was due to leave, she texted him telling him he was terrible in bed, she didn't fancy him and they should end it. She said some other non complimentary things too.

It wasn't the first time she told him that she didn't feel it was working but each time he managed to talk her round, telling her he still wanted it to work and each time, despite huge rants from her, he wouldn't let her go. But the final message insulting his sexual performance seems to have ended it as he hasn't contacted her again. The trip didn't happen.

Now every single time I see her, and even on days when I don't, she talks about him incessantly, cries, texts me asking do I think he's thinking of her and turning every single thing I need to discuss, back to a discussion about him. I am trying my best but I have had my own problems recently and am finding it all very hard.

Most recently when I told her I am finally taking a holiday and going abroad, she wants me to post a letter from abroad to his partner, detailing the affair, saying she wants to 'ruin him'. Today I found out that she wants ME to do the handwriting and has bought gloves and stationary, asking me to post it from my location on holiday so they don't know who it came from.

She has asked me to create fake facebook profiles and send him messages and for some reason, is obsessed with asking 'what time was I last on what's app and messenger' because she feels by staying off, he will be watching wondering what she is doing etc. I must give her updates on her own social media performance at least 20 times a week.

She feels posting the letter will help her gain control back.

I don't want to turn my back on her and I feel I have been a good friend and more than patient, but I'm worried now for not only her mental health as she doesn't seem to recognise that what she said to him has ended it technically, but also because there are other people's lives involved in this and who knows whether he would call the police etc. I don't know what to do anymore. Added to the fact I'm starting to feel really sorry for her husband as I've seen how she speaks to him and treats him now and the poor sap has no idea. I lost my mother a while ago and don't have a huge support network and she seems to have it all, but still uses me as a sounding board, turning everything into something about this man she feels she is in love with, but wants to destroy.

I'm grateful for any advice, I've never experienced anything like this before and am not very good at saying no.

Thank you so much.

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DoleWhipFloat · 07/10/2021 18:26

I think you need to just be honest with her.

He used her. No he’s not thinking of her. It’s good that it’s over and sending letters will just open up a can of worms. That this should (a) never had happened and (b) needs to be now left alone.

Sometimes you really do have to be cruel to be kind.

JasonMomoasgirlfriend · 07/10/2021 18:32

No no no. This is crazy

Just say you don't want anything to do with it and that she should move on and learn from her mistake

layladomino · 07/10/2021 18:32

You can't go along with these mad ideas she has. They wouldn't achieve anything good, would prolong her agony, potentially hurt other people and it would make you an accessory to their 'relationship'.

Don't feel bad about being honest with her. It's over. He was no catch - she said that herself. She is married. Her husband deserves better. She seems to be making herself ill over it. She is obsessed. He will have moved on and no, he won't be thinking about her.

She isn't being fair on you either. It all sounds very teenage and self-centred on her part.

CharlieR19878 · 07/10/2021 18:35

@layladomino

You can't go along with these mad ideas she has. They wouldn't achieve anything good, would prolong her agony, potentially hurt other people and it would make you an accessory to their 'relationship'.

Don't feel bad about being honest with her. It's over. He was no catch - she said that herself. She is married. Her husband deserves better. She seems to be making herself ill over it. She is obsessed. He will have moved on and no, he won't be thinking about her.

She isn't being fair on you either. It all sounds very teenage and self-centred on her part.

Completely agree!
thesearelaughterlines · 07/10/2021 18:45

She is your friend , therefore you should be able to say -

Stop this shit now before other people get hurt , we are not 15 , move on , it was a mistake

Hattiehottie · 07/10/2021 18:48

She isn't your friend anymore. She's using you to get what she wants. You need to have a very frank conversation with her and tell her to pack it in.

WanderingLost167 · 08/10/2021 00:25

Tell her the only thing that you'll help her do is find a good therapist.

Aquamarine1029 · 08/10/2021 00:31

Ditch this woman and do some serious work on your boundaries.

Djifunrsn · 08/10/2021 00:31

She sounds deranged. Gloves, posting from abroad and fake profiles? I’d cut contact with her.

Slowly and carefully in case she tries to “ruin” you too.

emlouwat · 08/10/2021 00:35

She sounds absolutely batshit crazy

TrollsAreSaddos · 08/10/2021 00:38

Why haven’t you told her to stop taking about him already? Just tell her to stop. If she takes it badly then that’s on her her.

Anordinarymum · 08/10/2021 00:39

She's done something really stupid and is pushing her guilt onto you to validate her actions.

Tell her you do not want to be involved and if she wants to continue -you can't - because in the end when it all goes wrong she will blame you and not herself

Owlink · 08/10/2021 00:59

Ghost her. Imagine the effort it would take from you to explain how weird, inappropriate, thoughtless she is being. She won't accept what you say anyway. So what's the point in trying? She's not a real friend & you'll be so relieved not to have to listen to this drivel any more.

Onthemaintrunkline · 08/10/2021 01:22

This is beyond crazy. Your friend is verging on……well I won’t say crazy, but she’s definitely unsettled/unbalanced. How you could let yourself be dragged into this, beyond stupid stunt is beyond me, if nothing else it’s encouraging her vindictive bitterness. As poster has said ‘we are not 15’.
She’s someone who I wouldn’t like to get on the wrong side of, what’s she capable of doing to you if you brass her off….frightening! Cut the connection with this ‘friend’.

expat101 · 08/10/2021 01:34

Why can't she create her own fake FB profiles?

I would be concerned as to why she is dragging you into it.

Monty27 · 08/10/2021 01:39

From the frying pan into the fire
With bells on

1forAll74 · 08/10/2021 02:13

She sounds rather strange and a bit unhinged about things, the whole things sounds loopy, I would not get involved in all these ridiculous goings on. She needs to keep quiet about her little life style.

SueblueNZ · 08/10/2021 05:29

She's barking.
It sounds like he dumped her and she is out for revenge; weird that she dumped him. Was it only because the sex was bad?
If the boot were on the other foot and he contacted her husband, intent on ruining her, how would she feel?
Cut ties with her. She is no longer acting like a friend and deserves to be let loose. She doesn't deserve your loyalty.

category12 · 08/10/2021 05:48

Are you doing any of this stuff? Confused Stop if so. Stop updating her on what her social media looks like or whatever.

Just say "no, I won't be doing any of that, friend. Do you realise how obsessive this all is? I am worried about your mental health, I think you need to speak to a professional".

If she goes off at you or ends the friendship, so be it.

altmember · 08/10/2021 12:27

@DoleWhipFloat

I think you need to just be honest with her.

He used her. No he’s not thinking of her. It’s good that it’s over and sending letters will just open up a can of worms. That this should (a) never had happened and (b) needs to be now left alone.

Sometimes you really do have to be cruel to be kind.

He used her? It sounds more like the other way around. Whatever, they were both equally complicit in this affair. She's the one that ended it, so why is she so angry that she wants to destroy him? Sounds like she's trying to absolve her own guilt by channeling her anger at him instead.

What does she think she's going to achieve by grassing him up to his wife? What's most likely to happen is that he'll figure out who's behind the letter (who else could be), and will retaliate by telling her husband. She's playing with fire and will get her fingers burnt.

Pushing you to get involved is pretty awful, that's not what friends do. Actually, she sounds completely deranged. You need to tell her you'll have nothing to do with it, and never to tell you about her affairs again.

reader12 · 08/10/2021 12:55

@WanderingLost167

Tell her the only thing that you'll help her do is find a good therapist.
Yes. Don’t get dragged into any of her mad schemes, not even a little bit, and don’t go along with any of the reporting social media stuff. Just tell her you want nothing to do with any of it. If she dumps you in outrage for being “unsupportive” so much the better. You don’t need her in your life and she’s using you.
youvegottenminuteslynn · 08/10/2021 12:56

"At this point you're asking me to be complicit in harassment. You are having a mental health crisis and it would be irresponsible for me as a friend to enable worrying, dangerous and stalking behaviours. You need to either allow me to help you access some mental health support or stop discussing this man with me. I'm concerned you are unwell and obsessed. I can either help you find professional mental health support now or I can speak to you in a month's time to see how you are. At the moment I don't feel comfortable doing anything else and if you respect me as a friend who has been supportive and kind to you, you will understand that. Let me know which option you choose and I will act accordingly."

That's what I would send I think. And if she didn't pick either of those two options and launched into a diatribe / angry messages I would send one saying:

"As I said, I'm not comfortable enabling this behaviour and you have just made it clear my boundaries arent something you can respect. Feel free to contact me in a month if you would like to speak to me then. If you continue to message like this, I will have to block you to preserve my own wellbeing."

Then I would follow through.

gannett · 08/10/2021 13:41

I've never experienced anything like this before and am not very good at saying no.

Here's a really great opportunity for you to get better at saying "no" because that is ALL that needs to be said.

No, I don't want to hear any more about the affair or this man.

No, I don't want all our conversations to revolve around it.

Absolutely fucking not will I aid and abet any lunatic revenge schemes.

Onelifeonly · 08/10/2021 13:47

"Here's a really great opportunity for you to get better at saying "no" because that is ALL that needs to be said."

This!

BarefootHippieChick · 08/10/2021 13:58

@Djifunrsn

She sounds deranged. Gloves, posting from abroad and fake profiles? I’d cut contact with her.

Slowly and carefully in case she tries to “ruin” you too.

This. I'd seriously be questioning my friendship with this person tbh