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Am I the only one who thinks Britney Spears is still very unwell ?

55 replies

wonderlust23 · 07/10/2021 04:29

Hi, I just wondered if anyone can explain to me, why Britney is still clearly not very well and the world seems to think she's fine? He Instagram videos are just bizarre. I totally agree that the conservatorship has been abused btw.

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user1481840227 · 08/10/2021 02:22

They’re responding to her as if she’s a fully healthy and stable person who is escaping from the prison of the conservatorship, so cheering her on - not as a clearly ill and vulnerable person who (while the conservatorship was clearly all kinds of wrong) pretty obviously still needs some significant help.

Would any of us be fully healthy after what she has been through? No one could come out of that situation without some issues!! That doesn't mean that she's clearly ill though.

Lots of people go through breakdowns, I'm sure we all know some people who have, neighbours, distant friends etc...and perhaps their breakdown was a secret and we're not aware because they got the right help they needed at the time and came out the other side.
If they'd been treated like Britney had then they wouldn't have had any chance to recover properly from the breakdown and get back to normal life.

That doesn't mean that she's not stable. Perhaps she has mental health issues like complex PTSD which can of course cause issues, but that doesn't mean that she's not stable

I agree she needs significant 'help', she needs 'help' to come terms with what has happened and everything with her family, betrayal, trust etc. but for anyone who thinks she needs significant help based on what she posts on instagram is just like back in the day when women got diagnosed with hysteria.

Perhaps she just loves being an exhibitionist, loves the attention, perhaps it's a fuck you to her dad. I do burlesque and I know lots of women who would have posted similar to Britneys latest post!

1forAll74 · 08/10/2021 02:40

Lots of these celebrity types in show business, end up having mental health issues, because of their odd ball life styles. I don't usually comment on things like this, but it's tiresome to read about so called celebrity woes.

JackieChiles · 08/10/2021 02:40

@user1481840227

They’re responding to her as if she’s a fully healthy and stable person who is escaping from the prison of the conservatorship, so cheering her on - not as a clearly ill and vulnerable person who (while the conservatorship was clearly all kinds of wrong) pretty obviously still needs some significant help.

Would any of us be fully healthy after what she has been through? No one could come out of that situation without some issues!! That doesn't mean that she's clearly ill though.

Lots of people go through breakdowns, I'm sure we all know some people who have, neighbours, distant friends etc...and perhaps their breakdown was a secret and we're not aware because they got the right help they needed at the time and came out the other side.
If they'd been treated like Britney had then they wouldn't have had any chance to recover properly from the breakdown and get back to normal life.

That doesn't mean that she's not stable. Perhaps she has mental health issues like complex PTSD which can of course cause issues, but that doesn't mean that she's not stable

I agree she needs significant 'help', she needs 'help' to come terms with what has happened and everything with her family, betrayal, trust etc. but for anyone who thinks she needs significant help based on what she posts on instagram is just like back in the day when women got diagnosed with hysteria.

Perhaps she just loves being an exhibitionist, loves the attention, perhaps it's a fuck you to her dad. I do burlesque and I know lots of women who would have posted similar to Britneys latest post!

I totally agree. It’s insane to me that people think her facial expression and 5-second videos are any kind of genuine window into her life. People find it entertaining to speculate but nobody has ANY idea what’s really happening. It’s actually pretty offensive to even think you have the right to comment on it. If I were Britney and I had a body like that I would be totally fucking with everyone just to get them frothing. There are a MILLION famous and non-famous people who post way more controversial and concerning stuff than Britney every day.
NiceGerbil · 08/10/2021 02:58

Yes it's an unpleasant thread.

Whatever her MH issues it was no reason to keep her controlled like that for YEARS.

Loads of people including mothers live with all sorts of MH issues.

I assume no one in the thread knows her well? So it's all speculation.

I was v pleased to see that clip of her having a flying lesson. Here or on the news maybe. That's a great statement of freedom!

madisonbridges · 08/10/2021 03:13

@StrictlyAFemaleFemale

1. None of your business.
  1. Most likely traumatised rather than mentally ill.
  2. Stop pedalling her abusive father's narrative.

If you are genuinely interested then I would recommend listening to
Toxic the britney spears story
Crime analyst - the episode with dr jessica taylor is particularly enlightening

She makes social media postings to raise public interest and get people talking about her. So I don't understand why you're complaining because people are doing what she wants - talking about her. If you deliberately put yourself in the public eye, you can't control what people's perceptions of you are going to be. That's the risk you take when you lay aspects of your life out for strangers.
tabulahrasa · 08/10/2021 03:23

“And he also said I wasn’t taking my medication, which is so dumb, because I’ve had the same lady every morning for the past eight years give me my same medication.”

“I have a friend that I used to do AA meetings with. I did AA for two years. I did three meetings a week. I’ve met a bunch of women there. And I’m not able to see my friends that live eight minutes away from me, which I find extremely strange.”

“And I want to meet with a therapist once a week, not twice a week. And I want him to come to my home. Because I actually know I do need a little therapy. (Laughing.)”

They’re her words... she’s not claiming to be fine, she wants to change the conservativeship so that she can go back on the meds that suited her, see people from AA and pick her own therapist that can come to her house instead of going out in public to get therapy (among a whole load of other things, obviously) but it’s very clear she’s aware she has issues that need dealing with.

DumplingsAndStew · 08/10/2021 12:41

@tabulahrasa

Yes, I don't think she's ever claimed to be 'okay' to end the conservartorship abruptly, she has been asking to have it covered by someone else as she doesn't trust the people involved.

Someone with MH issues needs to be able to trust those caring for them, or it can be very damaging. You can't focus on getting better, or even managing your life, if your focus is on those around you.

FancyLampshade · 08/10/2021 21:09

This thread is just gossip and speculation dressed up as faux concern, for entertainment. The same way as people enjoy reading an agony aunt column or watching big brother / MAFS / love island and analysing the people and their dynamics. You don't know her and I'm sure that people who genuinely do know and care about her are not posting threads on public forums and performing armchair analysis on her mental fitness. I wouldn't presume to diagnose people I actually have relationships with with mental health issues, let alone people I merely follow on Instagram. Just yuck.

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/10/2021 21:10

Who wouldn’t be after what her own father did to her ?

TaRaLa · 08/10/2021 21:12

@Clutterbugsmum

Weather Britney has mental illness problems or not doesn't mean she should have been kept under this conservatorship with her father controlling her life and using her money to support him and her family.
This.

Even if she does still have problems, there is no need for the abusive level of a conservatorship. Not in someone doing concerts and being on TV! Nothing like this equivalent in the U.K.

Retrievemysanity · 08/10/2021 21:20

I’m not sure the world does think she’s fine though. I do feel so sorry for her especially when you look at how talented and sweet she was as a little girl and how she’s been exploited and treated over the years. I’m glad her father has been removed and hopefully things will improve for her but I agree with you, I think her insta posts are bizarre at times.

DarkDarkNight · 08/10/2021 21:28

I feel for her. I do think she is unwell and vulnerable to abuse. But her family have used her as a personal ATM for years and it is despicable. They have exploited her vulnerability. I think she may well trust the wrong people and make bad decisions, possibly because of her bipolar but they are her mistakes to make.

Her family have proved that they don’t have her best interests at heart, it is a shame there is no one around her she can trust.

DarkDarkNight · 08/10/2021 21:38

Sorry, I have just googled and can’t see if she has openly said she has Bipolar apart from a newspaper article from years ago.

Still, I think for whatever reason she won’t make sound decisions but she should be free to liver her life how she chooses.

LittleMysSister · 08/10/2021 21:40

I do think Britney likely has some issues, but so have many celebs before her. She deserves to control her own life. There is no reason why she should have had people exerting this much control lover her life and choices.

DollyParton2 · 08/10/2021 22:23

She’d very clearly not well at all OP. Not surprising in the slightest given all she’s endured over the past few decades/ likely most of her life but her listing these bizarre photos of herself named while clearly very “wired” (having experienced a lot i with friends/ family over the years I can spot this a mile off) and millions of sheep liking the photos, celebrating them and egging her on is disgraceful. She needs help. She’s not ok. It’s disgraceful to pretend otherwise and try and celebrate her current state abd behaviour.

Thelnebriati · 08/10/2021 22:41

People subjected to crazymaking behaviour act crazy. They need time and support to find their equilibrium.

user1481840227 · 08/10/2021 23:30

@DarkDarkNight

Sorry, I have just googled and can’t see if she has openly said she has Bipolar apart from a newspaper article from years ago.

Still, I think for whatever reason she won’t make sound decisions but she should be free to liver her life how she chooses.

She never said she had bipolar. It was entirely taken out of context.

She was talking about how she had always been shy and modest as a little girl and how she has an alter ego on stage and how she turns into a completely different person on stage..like bipolar disorder!

But then she was horribly misquoted time and time again over those comments where all of the context was left out and they just said she was opening up about her bipolar disorder Angry

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 08/10/2021 23:37

@Xyzzzzz

I watched the documentary on Sky yesterday. Her life was so controlled so I sort of understand why she’s posting in such a way. I’m sure she’ll find someone to help her manage her funds and mental health.
I think there's very good reason her life is controlled and I say the same on all threads like these- I think there are a lot of people who don't have any experience of serious mental illness.
MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 08/10/2021 23:38

@DollyParton2

She’d very clearly not well at all OP. Not surprising in the slightest given all she’s endured over the past few decades/ likely most of her life but her listing these bizarre photos of herself named while clearly very “wired” (having experienced a lot i with friends/ family over the years I can spot this a mile off) and millions of sheep liking the photos, celebrating them and egging her on is disgraceful. She needs help. She’s not ok. It’s disgraceful to pretend otherwise and try and celebrate her current state abd behaviour.
Totally agree.
PanicPrevention · 08/10/2021 23:38

I haven't seen her Instagram feed but I would guess she is traumatised, she said so herself at the court hearing and why wouldn't she be?
Trauma does affect the brain, the whole body actually, its awful what has been done to her.

user1000000000009 · 08/10/2021 23:43

I don't believe she has control of her Instagram account or any other social media.

JasonMomoasgirlfriend · 08/10/2021 23:49

I do think she is unwell.
Her Instagram is also quite concerning.
I feel for her. Hope she is ok and has people that genuinely care for her around her but I'm just not sure.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 08/10/2021 23:57

@PanicPrevention

I haven't seen her Instagram feed but I would guess she is traumatised, she said so herself at the court hearing and why wouldn't she be? Trauma does affect the brain, the whole body actually, its awful what has been done to her.
I wonder why people find it hard to accept that possibly she extremely mentally unwell and it's not anything that's been 'done' to her,it's just a sad fact of life that some people are so ill they need people around them to 'control' them or they'd be dead or broke within a week, or both.
user1481840227 · 09/10/2021 00:04

@MrsPelligrinoPetrichor
If someone was that mentally unwell then why was she doing hundreds of shows in Vegas? Of course people might say it gave her something productive to do.....but why was she put to work as a judge on Xfactor? going on live tv while heavily medicated? Who in their right mind decided that that was a good idea for someone who is extremely mentally unwell.

It doesn't add up.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 09/10/2021 00:08

[quote user1481840227]@MrsPelligrinoPetrichor
If someone was that mentally unwell then why was she doing hundreds of shows in Vegas? Of course people might say it gave her something productive to do.....but why was she put to work as a judge on Xfactor? going on live tv while heavily medicated? Who in their right mind decided that that was a good idea for someone who is extremely mentally unwell.

It doesn't add up.[/quote]
Medical treatment costs thousands and thousands ,no NHS there, people can still work if they're mentally ill and in the US they'd need to!