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Am I Expecting Too Much?

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RockinHorseShit · 29/09/2021 22:53

Ive name changed for this, but I'm a long time semi regular MNer.

I'm in a difficult situation & it's looking likely to be the end of my marriage as I feel so let down by DH & can't get passed it.

We have a very difficult situation with our now 19yo DD, who is still in education & at home. It's not as straightforward as bad behaviour & kick her out, there's MH & physical problems at play, history's trauma from hospitals, bullying & more & probable ASD too. This is leading to a very angry DD who verbally & occasionally lashes out at me when she can't cope.

This lashing out has become very manipulative in that it's never in front of DH/her dad & she's ringing or texting him her version immediately. I usually manage grey rock, but have had a lot of extra stress due to noisy neighbours, lack of sleep, migraine & generally ill & exhausted.

So I stupidly didn't spot the signs that she was spoiling for a fight when she started goading me over a huge chest neck & jawline tattoo that she was treating herself to for her recent birthday. I just said I couldn't discuss it now as I had a migraine & felt too ill... cue angry goading that she'll do what she wants with her body & that I don't get to choose when we have the conversation. I left the room & sat on the sofa. She followed me & carried on. I'm ashamed to say that I felt so ill & overwhelmed that I just crumbled into a howling heap just repeating over & over "just please leave me alone". She stood over me laughing & telling me I was pathetic & weak & at some point I buried my face in a cushion & covered my eyes & ears as I was heartbroken by what she was doing. She was clearly really enjoying the power trip. What I didn't know until her dad got in, was that she had filmed me "as evidence that I was mental" but even worse she coldly fakes concern & her asking asking me to ket her help me. This didn't happen. She is gaslighting me & it's not the first time. Last time she tripped herself up & contradicted herself in her texts to DH showing herself to be a liar.

She used to be such a sweet, thoughtful & always kind & very honest kid, that I do understand him not wanting to believe how bad she is now behaving with me, but as a result he just never properly stands up to her, he's literally just told her that he's "really fucking disappointed in her behaviour" as he never swears at her it's enough to get his point across & otherwise calmly talking & listening to her like nothing just happened & it's making a bad situation worse as far as I'm concerned.

He tells me he believes me, but won't call her out on her BS to him about what happened this time as "he wasn't there" there's always 2 sides" & that sure as hell doesn't make me feel believed or supported & I can't get passed that. I love him, he's a good man in so many ways, he's my best friend, but I feel so bloody let down & just can't look at him in the same way. I actually packed to leave today, but I chickened out as don't know where I'd go

Do I need to get over myself, or am I right that he needs to find a fucking backbone with DD

TIA

OP posts:
purpleme12 · 29/09/2021 22:58

Oh no I'm sorry
I know how hard to can be to carry on and not crumble when you're at the end of your tether
Yes he should be helping you

BirdwatchingIsPeaceful · 29/09/2021 23:01

I am so sorry you are going through something so horrific.

Not knowing what went wrong with your DD must break your brain. I have no advice right now, only support

lynntheyresexpeople · 29/09/2021 23:05

I completely understand you're upset. However, he is correct that there are two sides, and you are basically asking he sides with you over your daughter. It's a really horrible place for him to be as well, especially if you're threatening to leave over it.
You really do sound at breaking point, and that you may benefit from seeing someone. Screaming and howling in despair over a tattoo conversation is a sign of needing some help for yourself. Do you have friends you could stay with for a couple days? For a break?

Nannyamc · 29/09/2021 23:16

Had much the same situation. Felt dh really let me down. Suddenly i realised this loving dh and dad could not cope with what was going on too. Had a long chat and vowed to stick together on all decisions. Dc could not cope with our united front. Was causing rift between us.
Once we made this plain it stopped.. united front.

RockinHorseShit · 29/09/2021 23:28

Yes I need a break badly, but nowhere I can go as he's asked me not to talk to anyone just yet & I'm distanced from the once the good friends I could have gone to, because they are rabid conspiracy theory antivaxxers 🥴 hopefully those bridges can be rebuilt once the pandemic is over, but they are sadly well & truly burnt for the time being

Im not expecting him to take sides. Though I can understand how my post might read that way. We are both on her side & are very worried about her, but I think his softly softly approach doesn't help. I feel she needs to be fully called out on how bad her behaviour towards me is, but he never does that, which she takes to mean that he's on her side & believes her version over mine.

No help, I've reached out for it ages ago, but everything is just so slow & I mostly do cope, but it can get overwhelming with neighbour & other problems on top too.

DD is delaying her treatment for Pernicious Anaemia more & more & refusing to take the other supplements she needs to support her injections & treat other genetic deficiencies. Together this treatment helps her physical & Mental health a lot. So bar normal teen stuff, this is the cause of a lot of her behaviour.

So there are no sides to take, I just need him to stand up to her & properly call her out on her behaviour for a change. He's always avoided disciplining her, I stupidly let him get away with it when she was small as he's a very big man & he thought he'd scare her too much & I believe that's why she targets me

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purpleme12 · 29/09/2021 23:35

What do you mean he's asked you not to talk about it yet??

RockinHorseShit · 29/09/2021 23:36

Oh & I know DH can't cope, he's heartbroken with what's going on, but we've had the long & open honest chats several times with other incidents & again last night over this one. I really thought he'd listened & understood my POV & the support I needed from him, but nothing changed when he spoke to DD.

DD did apologise to me for filming me, because DH did tell her off for that as he could see from the video that I was telling her to leave me alone & she had a BS answer as to why she didn't just leave me.

She refused Point blank & smirked when I asked if she was going to apologise for goading me to breakdown point

We haven't let her boyfriend stay since, as we believe she showed him the video as she ran straight to him after the incident, which I'm mortified over & him not staying has messed up her social life. Apologising for the video & promising & making me believe she didn't show him the video potentially benefits her. I'm under no illusions, sadly

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RockinHorseShit · 29/09/2021 23:39

What do you mean he's asked you not to talk about it yet??

As in... his words "please don't tell anyone yet, i don't want us to be just their gossip when I Cant deal with any of it yet"

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purpleme12 · 29/09/2021 23:41

You can talk to other people about how you feel if you want to, you know
He can't make you just talk to him until he wants you to talk to other people

RockinHorseShit · 29/09/2021 23:47

Sorry that wasn't clear, I am talking to someone who is more an old friend of DH tbh, she reached out to me & ironically she's going through/has gone through the same behaviour from her own DD. The parallels between the 2 girls are quite scary & she wasn't believed by her own family bar her DS either, so sadly she totally gets it

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MorriseysGladioli · 29/09/2021 23:56

I think the only hope you have of breaking this cycle is by being united, but it is a tricky situation.
I'm sure you could both agree, for example, that you will believe your spouse, as a starting point.

It's clear you both have her interests st heart, so why would either of you lie about anything?

Then you could build up a strategy from that starting point.

timeisnotaline · 30/09/2021 01:08

You can talk to people. Have you considered cameras of your own at home to show your dh? I wouldn’t tell your dd tbh, she can’t be trusted. But only review footage you’re in. Of course he should believe you…

choli · 30/09/2021 01:23

And a lock on your bedroom door, and noise canceling headphones to escape her abuse. Because it IS abuse.

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