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He hasn't processed the past

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Potofjoy4 · 26/09/2021 12:48

I'm worried about my boyfriend. He's a struggler. He gets down alot. He had a tough child hood and doesn't really handle loosing people. He has had a couple of long term relationships and the last one lasted about 8 years. It ended the best part of 3 years ago. I'd say it was both of them didn't compliment the other. They both were upsetting the other as they both were in different paths at the time. He got dependant on drinking. They broke up and he was heartbroken from what I can tell. He left the house a few months after they broke up. He carried on working but started drinking to the point he needed help. So he went to get the help he needed and successfully stopped drinking. He got sorted. Was back to normal. Still depressed but you can't tell. He's working long weeks and fully independent and going great now.

I met him during this time. So I never knew him as a drinker. We are very close. We decided to start a relationship in July after months of talking and meeting up. But I've noticed he's not recovered from his past with the ex and I am not sure whether he needs help 0r if it will just take more time.

He's punishing himself. I think he feels so guilty about the drinking and how they ended up that he feels by being there for her now, he's making it right. He has to know what she's doing. If she's OK. I don't know what they say to eachother but I know there's regular contact through phones. She will randomly message him with several kisses and ask him how he is. He has highs and lows towards her. He tries to play it down to me but I know and sense the grief he has for her still.

But the weird thing is they don't want to be together. Or else they would be. It's not sex. It's not wanting to try again. But he is absolutely terrified in my opinion of her moving on. He was spitting feathers last week talking about a man who used to message her because this man is now doing her parents extension. He just seems possessive over her and she seems possessive over him.

I don't know the answer to any of this. He had therapy when they first separated. I've tried to tell him it's all abit unhealthy and I don't believe it's as mutual and happy as he claims. They both seem damaged but I suspect my boyfriend is perhaps the one who's hung onto her the most and she's been unable to detach. .
I'm not sure what to do.

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Pinkbonbon · 26/09/2021 13:00

Op you are massively projecting 'how i would feel.and why you might act the way he is acting' onto him here. But I don't believe for one second that he is behaving this way geniuses he feels bad about before.

The fact is, he is being MASSIVELY disrespectful to you. And he doesn't give a shit. He doesn't give a shit about the feelings of his current girlfriend. And I guarantee you, he does not give a shit about her feelings either.

He cares about him. Him him him.
And he makes that perfectly clear by banging on about his struggles and his past ti everyone who will bloody listen. Including his poor ex.

Stop trying to put yourself in his shoes in order to explain away his shitty, disrespectful behaviour. There is no excuse for it.

Google covert narcissist and also, narcissistic triangulation (when they stay in contact with an ex/harp on about them I order to make you feel 'not enough').

Also, once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. It comes round again and again. Save yourself sone heartache and leave this guy before he drags you down with him.

Pinkbonbon · 26/09/2021 13:01

*because he feels bad

Pinkbonbon · 26/09/2021 13:09

And if I'm wrong about him being a vulnerable/victim narcissist (the 'woe is me, no one understands my pain waaaah" type) then at best he is a miserable person, who you describe as 'damaged' who is hung up on his ex and disrespects his current gf by constantly banging on about her and messaging her. Oh and, capable of falling back into alcoholism any time.

So it still doesn't sound like he is in the right frame of mind to be dating anyone right now.

Suitcaseseverywhere · 26/09/2021 13:11

You don’t need to rescue him. He’s a grown up. He needs to sort his shit.

Why are you happy to be treated like this?

Outfoxedbyrabbits · 26/09/2021 13:14

I don't know the answer to any of this... I'm not sure what to do.

Get out while you still can. Run like the wind to the nearest hills.

I am not sure whether he needs help 0r if it will just take more time.

It's been nearly three years. He doesn't want help. This will never change, it will never get better. You cannot rescue this man. Don't fall into the role of the "good woman" who will save the "poor damaged man". Just run.

GiantHaystacks2021 · 26/09/2021 13:16

What a project he is.
I'd dump him.
He's not your project to do or fix.

Tillysfad · 26/09/2021 13:19

He's but ready to be with you. You're going to be hurt. You should go

Tillysfad · 26/09/2021 13:19

Not

category12 · 26/09/2021 13:22

Stop wasting your time and energy.

I'm sure you can do better than an alcoholic who is entangled with another woman.

Are you a rescuer? Do you need to feel you have to be a martyr/saviour in order to be worthy of a relationship?

Geamhradh · 26/09/2021 13:23

@Outfoxedbyrabbits

I don't know the answer to any of this... I'm not sure what to do.

Get out while you still can. Run like the wind to the nearest hills.

I am not sure whether he needs help 0r if it will just take more time.

It's been nearly three years. He doesn't want help. This will never change, it will never get better. You cannot rescue this man. Don't fall into the role of the "good woman" who will save the "poor damaged man". Just run.

This Whatever poor me story he's spinning you, the bottom line is he wants his ex more than he wants you. And yes, he sounds like a typical narcissist and I bet if you spoke to his ex, her version of things would be very different. What do you actually get out of hearing his whining day in day out about how badly life treats him? You want to help victims, do some volunteering. You might find a nice bloke who respects you at the same time v
spotcheck · 26/09/2021 13:27

It doesn't matter why he is still 'in it'. But he is still mentally and emotionally there.

Why do you want to be in this triangle?

You know that if he was emotionally mature enough ( or " healed") he wouldn't thank you for staying, he would dump you. He seems to need someone with low boundaries, and perhaps you want someone who 'needs' you.
Once those dynamics change, the relationship will cease to have a purpose.

coffeeisthebest · 26/09/2021 13:31

Oh my god OP, run away, run away now! Who gives a crap why he is treating you like a piece of crap, he just is. Walk away right now. Please. Put your phone down and go and sort out separating.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 26/09/2021 13:33

Alcoholic and still wanting to control his ex's love life? AND running a year long pity party (bet he hasn't been sober for longer than that).

Urgh. Chuck this one back.

Wombat96 · 26/09/2021 13:36

You'd be toast if she took him back.

Not your circus...

coffeeisthebest · 26/09/2021 13:38

And also, you titled your post by saying he hasn't 'processed the past'. Firstly, that is his business, not yours and also that is no excuse for treating two women like shit. If you want a whining winge bag, you are welcome to spend some time with my teenage son, but please dump this man child.

GiantHaystacks2021 · 27/09/2021 12:52

Where on earth do women find these losers?

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