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Redpoppies92 · 25/09/2021 04:37

I have a 2 year old and a 5 month old with my partner. Towards the end of my pregnancy with baby 2, my partner and I split for several months and lived apart. It was extremely difficult and isolating raising two children on my own, meanwhile my partners (ex at the time) life didn’t change much.

One of the reasons for the split was due to an inappropriate relationship he had with a female accountant who sometimes referred work for him. My partner and her team would go out for drinks, lunches etc. I didn’t like the flirtatious behaviour between them, such as pictures of him wearing her lipstick, the way they spoke on the phone. It was a contributing factor to the split. A few months ago we decided that we still loved each other, and wanted to give the relationship another go. It was around this time that she started dating one of his friends and he was acting weirdly jealous about it. When she found out that we were seeing each other again, she started phoning him up, declaring her undying love and that they would make a great couple. I just found this out yesterday and I have been having anxiety attacks on and off since I found out. My partner said it was a complete surprise and that he told her he loved me. He said he didn’t see or sleep with anyone during our split. I’m anxious that I’m not getting the full picture and it’s wrecking my head. I asked him not to do work with her anymore and he started saying ‘ok fine, but it’s going to cost this family a lot of money’ etc. So he’s disgruntled about my request but I fail to see why this work relationship is worth jeopardising our family and relationship for when he has other contacts who refer work to him.

My anxious head works in a way where I have to keep searching for information to fill in the blanks. I feel like I’m not getting the full picture. I asked him to call her in front of me to get full disclosure and he said for me to wait until Monday to calm down, but I think he’s just putting me off contacting her. I was able to find her number (no judgments please) but I haven’t brought myself to contact her because I don’t want to sabotage my relationship. I’m afraid that if I do uncover more, it will lead to increased anxiety and that if I’m unable to move past it, I risk the peace of mind I need to continue the relationship. If this happens, and he becomes available again, I risk this woman taking him for herself. She herself is a single mother to two children so I am disgusted that she would attempt to break our young family up for her own gain. I thought she would have more sympathy. She even accepted an invitation to come and stay for the weekend last year but I said no to my partner because I didn’t want to entertain people when I’m tired and pregnant. I feel sickened that she was going to spend the weekend with my family. Like she was sizing my family up to make a move.

I don’t know how to proceed. I realise a lot people will argue that if something had happened, my partner was single, but it’s difficult to move on from especially if he’s reluctant to end the work relationship. My stomach is in knots and I’ve been having bad anxiety attacks. A part of me wants to find out but I’m afraid of what I will find. Do I attempt to or do I find a way to forget about this?

OP posts:
WhyOhWhyOhWhyyyy · 25/09/2021 08:24

I’m afraid that if I do uncover more, it will lead to increased anxiety and that if I’m unable to move past it, I risk the peace of mind I need to continue the relationship

That’s not ‘peace of mind’ that’s burying your head in the sand.

category12 · 25/09/2021 08:27

To get through it, you actually need everything out in the open and to be in a place where you feel you can believe him.

Hiding from the truth just means it will eat away at you and your relationship.

Hopingforabagofbuttons · 25/09/2021 08:35

Also despite his protestations he was clueless about her feelings towards him, you know that’s an out and out lie right. Of course he knew, it doesn’t sound like she’s backwards at coming forward.
So knowing that, he was still happy to have her come and stay the weekend with you. Maybe he thought of having the two of you under one roof whilst knowing the full picture was a thrill for him. He sounds incredibly disrespectful and pretty grim actually

Ambo21 · 25/09/2021 08:37

This woman is irrelevant.
The fault/blame lies with your partner. If he is committed to your relationship he wouldnt flirt. If he is committed to your relationship he would have poured cold water on this females advances. If he was committed to HIS KIDS he would have run a mile.
If it wasnt her.. it would be someone else... there will always be someone else because this is who he is..
What you do going forward is up to you..
But she is a bitch.

Pinkspecs · 25/09/2021 08:58

OP this man doesn't sound like he can make you happy.
He is a liar and a cheat, he isn't worthy of you, look what he is putting you through.

Why should you feel you have to keep on uncovering stuff. Hes obviously lying that's enough isn't it?

He isn't the person you thought he was and all the time you are spending worrying and fretting you are wasting.
You get such a short time on this earth don't waste a second with someone who makes you feel this way.
All the time you are with him you are preventing yourself from finding someone who could really make you happy.

You have two small children enjoy them and don't let him take these precious years you have with them worrying about what he's up to, enjoy them and get rid of him.

Sidehustle99 · 25/09/2021 09:45

I separated from my DP for 6 months a few years back. I thought he had been working on a few of the issues we had and agreed to get back together with him. At the time it was on the understanding there was no one else. I found out 6 months later that he was seeing the same girl and possibly others the whole time.

I found a card he had been sent with explicit details included it was in an envelope post dated after we had made our commitment. I found out he had taken her away for a two night FF to say goodbye and swear her to secrecy. Obviously she had no idea he was using her and the card and subsequent email were he retaliation.

My point is he looked me square in the eye and told me there was no one else and I believed him. The OW was clueless. She thought she was starting a new chapter of her life with him.

For a while I was angry with her. Now I just hate him. There was no reason for his dishonesty. He could have just said he had loose ends or he could have just said he'd found someone new.

Before anyone else's says it I had no issue with him doing what he wanted when we weren't together. But during our relationship is unacceptable.

There is no messing around. Your DP sounds like trash.

Bluntness100 · 25/09/2021 09:48

I mean this gently but he’s talking pure bollocks. Of course she didn’t randomly start declaring her love. Clearly they have been together and you know it, that’s why you don’t wish to ask her. He’s a lying bastard.

HambletonSquare · 25/09/2021 09:57

Been there.

I asked my partner to change his shift, so that he no longer worked with his Ex OW.

His response 'no - why should I lose my mates'.

His response was selfish and about him and his needs. Me - and our children were second to that - in fact eventually I had to move away with my children - they are 'bigger men' than my ex, they 'lost their mates' at 4 and 6 years old - they did it - we all had to make new friends. Puts his pathetic response into context!

I wasn't prepared to be at home with the kids, worrying about what he was up to at work, lowering myself to having to question him, worrying if he was lying when he finished late. I have too much respect for myself than that.

He wasn't prepared to make that change, wasn't prepared to accept that the change of shift was required because of his own actions. Wasn't prepared to take responsibility or be accountable for his own actions.

I deserved better.
Not the man for me!

Marjoriedrawers · 25/09/2021 10:43

Has it occurred to you that he might have lied to you and that he was as much a part of the flirting as she was, or that he knew full well she had feelings for him and just pretended to be shocked in case you ended it? You can't move past this anyway, look at the effect even the suspicion of their involvement is having on your emotional state and your relationship already. You're always going to be wondering no matter what either of them say.

Dery · 25/09/2021 11:22

“Wow he must be a real prize to have 2 women fighting over him .
I'd ditch him for this drama alone , no one needs that, least of all your kids .
He 100% slept with her when you were apart.
Move on OP , for your sanity”

This with bells on. He’s not trustworthy. He’s shown you this twice - and those are the cases you know of. It’s very unlikely she declared her love on the basis of a bit of flirting. As a PP said - it was bad enough that you split over it. And this is him when you have tiny children - when he should be feeling most protective of you and your family life.

There’s probably more you don’t know about - a great deal of infidelity remains undiscovered. Some people can accommodate living with a partner like that but most can’t. In your shoes, I would be looking to move on.

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 25/09/2021 11:54

Both of them are disgusting.

Onthedunes · 25/09/2021 15:11

I do get you op, it is human nature to defend predatory attacks from other females, yet you know if you 'win' this one, ie: get your own way of him cutting contact and eliminating her from your lives, the problem will still be there.

In her eyes your partner is a catch, he may well be in the conventional sense, a good earner, fantastically attractive, someone who other women eye up constantly, but he has no integrity.

You are young and wish for the best envioroment to bring your children up in, security a constant father figure but this man is defective.

As a partner he has shown you he is not capable of taking care of you and that extends to your children. He has not protected you from hurt or harm, he has destroyed your peace of mind and your mental health, why would he think that is conducive to help bringing up his children in the best possible way with all the advantages a secure relationship a child would benefit from.

No he is a very selfish individual who has 2 women batting aggainst each other for his own ego, fuck the kids is what he thinks, he is immature and quite possibly a male who will never grow up.

You deserve better, any woman would in this scenario. Your instincts of beating this woman to get your 'prize' is clouding your judgement of this mans ability to be a decent human being.

Both of you (women) should be kicking him to the curb.
He's nothing much, he is already a FAIL in the partner and father stakes and I should imagine there is going to be so much more he will let you down with.

He's a absolute dud, and a useless individual.
You have far more about you than him.

QueenBee52 · 25/09/2021 15:22

@ShouldersBackChestOutChinUp

"Messing around". Right. Completely inappropriate behaviour that upset you is dismissed as messing around.

Well then, stay with your dp. But if it's not this woman it'll be another one.......so blame her all you want. And the next one.

agreed sadly

Highly inappropriate behaviour too I might add ..

Does she behave like this with all her Clients ?

Her Employer must be delighted to have such a free spirited soul on their books..

Onthedunes · 25/09/2021 15:25

You cannot teach him to be a decent individual and you never will.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 25/09/2021 16:04

You're willing to stick out an unhealthy relationship because you're worried that if you break up, he'll go running back to her and you'll have to see them be together? Can you see how crazy that is?! If you think there's a remote possibility he would do that then you should end it anyway because your relationship is damaged beyond repair. --

You can't think it's right for you to model a dysfunctional relationship to your kids just for the sake of 'winning' against this woman, especially when the prize is basically a liar who probably definitely told both of you lies about each other.

DarlingFell · 26/09/2021 11:43

Your ‘partner’ is a Grade A wrongun I’m afraid

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