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How to get better at dealing with my mother?

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JumpingPiglets · 12/09/2021 22:29

I love DM dearly. She is sweet and caring and loves me very much. She also had a difficult childhood and struggles in interpersonal relationships. Eg, went NC with both her parents and 1 sibling, only 1 friend. She struggles a lot to understand appropriate social responses (eg once when I was 15 at a parent's evening a teacher asked if I had siblings at the school. She replied that she couldn't have coped with more (in a deadly serious tone, not a sort of "oh goodness, no an only child was enough for me!" sort of breezy way. She didn't understand the teacher's slightly flummoxed reaction. Or she tells people she has just met about her childhood and going NC.) She also drives me absolutely crazy and I am cold and often borderline nasty or snappy in how I deal with her. I wish I wasn't.

The faultline for me is that she moans constantly - about everything- and is hypercritical of many people, especially my father (they are still together). It had a terrible effect on my self-confidence growing up. I have always been afraid to challenge her because her default response is either to clam up or say "I am only joking". I genuinely think that on one level she thinks what she does is just making conversation. I am actually afraid of hurting her by asking her not to. (I tried once, in my early 20s. It didn't work.) But it is really horrible, and distressing, for me to have to listen to. When it is my father she focuses on I often feel I cannot help but pull up the drawbridge and my cold and snappy self comes out. I hate the sense of being complicit in it. And I also feel guilty that maybe I am the one who is being hypercritical of her, rather than just letting this wash over me. And because of it, I resist getting closer to her because I don't trust her not to be hypercritical of me either. So I avoid calling her, and spending time with her. But I feel awful because she vents to me because she is poor at conversation, and is lonely and doesn't really have outlets for minor frustrations. What makes it the more flabbergasting is that when I try a tiny bit of it - eg expression frustration about something with my partner - she basically won't listen, and her response is never to take my side. I know I have to change how I react because I cannot change her.

I've been in therapy, but it's on hiatus for a few months. I'd really welcome any advice anyone has about how to be a less awful daughter, and less tangled up in resentment for this flawed but deeply loving woman who is the only mother I am ever going to have.

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Jesskir89 · 12/09/2021 23:19

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Anordinarymum · 12/09/2021 23:23

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I think you have got to learn strategies to be able to cope with her comments and learn to allow them to wash over you. She is not going to change.
barskits · 12/09/2021 23:24

Might I suggest that you have a look at some of the 'Stately Homes' threads on here, they are full of people having to deal with the fallout from having difficult parents.

JumpingPiglets · 13/09/2021 09:45

Thank you. I've tried letting it wash over me, but it is so, so hard. I don't ask her to stop, or challenge her, but I feel myself with drawing into this cold and snappish person when she does it. It's a huge barrier to us having a better relationship. And it makes me so sad because we were very close before I became an adult. I don't feel I can meet the stately homes stories - she isn't toxic, and I don't want to limit contact with her. I want to be able to love her and engage with her more fully and open-heartedly.

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JustGiveMeGin · 13/09/2021 13:08

Have you had a think about why you feel like you have to put so much effort into building a better relationship with her? Shouldn't it be a 50/50 effort.
So what if you snap at her when she is socially inappropriate or rude! If most of your family is nc with her there is obviously a reason why!
Think about it before you bend over backwards to accommodate her in your life.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 13/09/2021 13:19

"I don't feel I can meet the stately homes stories - she isn't toxic, and I
don't want to limit contact with her".

Ask yourself why this truly is because there are reasons behind it. Is this because of your own FOG towards her; fear, obligation and guilt?.
Its hard being practically the last one left who at all bothers with her but that may be the case only because you've received the special training as a now adult child of such a really inadequate parent.

When you were a child too you were perhaps closer to her or she to you because you were more malleable and thus easier to control. I would think you spent practically every moment of your life being a "good girl" and being hypervigilent to any and all of her many changing moods. Your dad here has also played a huge role in this overall dysfunctional family unit by being a bystander, acting out of self preservation and want of a quiet life and failing to protect you as his daughter from her.

"I want to be able to love her and engage with her more fully and open-heartedly".

Again why is the emphasis on you here to do this work?. What about your mother doing similar?. (She cannot and equally will not do that anyway).

But that is a two way street and she is not open to being loved by anyone; she has been doing to you what was done to her by her own family. You perhaps remind her of her own DH on some level: a man whom she herself despises.

Women like your mother cannot do relationships at all. She had a choice when it came to you and she has chosen to mete out what was done to her. Its not your fault she is like this and you did not make her that way either. Also trying to be a rescuer or saviour here as you are doing does not work; you cannot heal her pain.

I would also suggest you restart therapy when possible and work with a BACP registered therapist.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 13/09/2021 13:23

Also sweet caring and loving people do not cause others to have no contact with them nor do they steamroller their way through life as your mother has done. It is likely that to her, the only opinion that matters is her own. She has no boundaries or for that matter a filter; she probably thinks that she "tells it like it is".

Your own boundaries re her certainly need revising upwards; what you are proposing will merely allow her to further crush along with walking all over you.

naesake · 13/09/2021 14:15

She sounds like my sister. She comes across as terribly nice and pleasant but is actually quite sour and passive agressive. She doesn't have contact with her children anymore because she played games and once they grew up they wised up

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