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DuchessOfDisaster · 11/09/2021 16:59

I got back from a week away today originally booked for myself. I wanted to revisit somewhere I went as a 17 year old (almost 30 years ago now). My partner asked to come along and I agreed, but we clashed horribly. It's been a very unpleasant time.

For context I have known him for many years, two decades - we do not live together or have children and have no plans to do so. He was always suggesting buying a property, marriage, but I chose not to - my reasoning now is if it was right, I would have done it. We've always got on well though had some great chats and have plenty to talk about.

He's been much more reticent over Covid than I have and we have seen very little of each other over the last 18 months. I suspected that he wasn't bothered at all, to be honest, but he denies this. I posted last month about him criticising my driving and making little comments (example: I went out in a maxi dress, and he said I would have looked better in heels, which I challenged).

Whilst away he has criticised my driving, the fact that I can't keep up with him when walking (I've torn a knee ligament some months ago and it's not sufficiently healed), that I stop to take photographs and he's halfway down the street, that I am loud (I'm not "loud" as in gobshite or inappropriate loud. I do have a loud voice and I struggle to modulate it and as I am a lecturer it's pretty much second nature), my weight (I have put on two stones during lockdown) and the fact that I have a swollen top lip (don't know what it is, but I've now seen a pharmacist). He accused me of having lip fillers, which I haven't, and told me I looked ridiculous, like Galen from Planet of the Apes and a puffer fish.

I really don't care what he thinks, as I'm sufficiently confident in myself and other people who I know love me to not let his opinion matter. I can't even name the emotion I feel after this tirade. I'm not hurt or upset, maybe angry. I don't even know.

When he does this, I will challenge. I'll say that I don't like it and ask him to stop. Setting my own boundaries, if you like. Then it's "lighten up, laugh it off". I grew up with brothers who took the piss out of me remorselessly, and I struggle with this kind of thing.

It all came to a head when I was driving the other night and was adjusting the mirrors as he had used the car. I asked him to wind the passenger window down as I couldn't adjust it properly, I couldn't see because of the street light reflection. He was huffing and puffing. He's been constantly griping and grousing all week. I drove back and then asked him why he was doing that - why he thought asking to help me adjust wing mirrors warranted eye rolling and sighing. Normally I will challenge everything immediately - I don't see the point of stewing on things. However in the evenings if he's had a drink there's no point and I'll bring it up in the morning. It's usually on the lines of "you said X and as a result I felt Y, I'd like you not to do that/say that anymore". This usually results in him feeling picked on, he says. He says it is a "sermon" and I am "preaching" or "lecturing". I'm not, I'm asking to be treated in the way I want to be treated.

This particular evening he went nuclear, used the F word at me thirty or so times. Told me that I am "Little Miss Me", totally selfish, the holiday was all about me, me me (I asked him earlier what he wanted to do and he said he was fine to do what I wanted), he was sick of being used as a chauffeur (he'd earlier said he didn't want me to drive as he felt safer doing it himself!) I'm an attention seeker, in a world of unicorns and marshmallows, cannot keep up with him, was putting on the pain and being with me made him feel like a carer (sorry, a F-ing carer) and he wasn't going to pay me his half of the expenses.

I refused to engage with it as it turned into playground na-na-na-na-na stuff and he was baiting and goading. By refusing to engage and reading a book I was apparently "attention seeking".

He also said something very weird, that I was attention seeking by saying things in the street when I passed groups of people. This is simply not true and I have no idea where it came from. I'm someone who doesn't like attention or public spectacles at all. I did nothing for my 40th birthday because I don't want parties and the like. I'm a private person, I keep things simple on social media and I'm amazed he got me so wrong after knowing me for so long, but I think it was just him having a tantrum, perhaps.

He has not apologised, but he modified his behaviour for the last two days. There was no way I was going to leave early as I'd paid for this and it was one of my favourite places. I've not allowed him to get away with it but I have not challenged it any more either as I wanted to have my time away in peace.

He never suggests anywhere to go, anything to do. I'm effectively silenced if I challenge things he says that he sees as light hearted and I don't.

This is not daily behaviour, as I don't see him every day. I barely see him once a week, and that's fine. I am not complaining. It's always me who ends up driving or collecting him, too and I refuse to do it any longer.

I'm undecided what to do: 1. Call him and end it because of his behaviour, 2. Take his (daily) phone calls but not suggest any meet ups, because he won't and that way it will just drift and I will get on with my life.

I don't want to block him on the phone (he is not on any form of social media) because it seems childish after so many years.

I've addressed this on several occasions. I've written it out for him in a letter so I wasn't contradicted in a discussion (when he tells me I get loud - I get very frustrated) and it will not change, so the only option is to just stop it.

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DismantledKing · 11/09/2021 17:05

Looks like this relationship has run out of steam.
Neither of you seems to like the other any more.

TheFoundations · 11/09/2021 17:14

Just tell him it's not working for you and it's over.

What would be the advantage of dragging it out by taking calls every day and letting it fade? You've written about 15 paragraphs to basically say 'My relationship doesn't work; how shall I end it?'

Drop the drama, do what needs to be done, and start moving on.

ChargingBuck · 11/09/2021 17:46

Look, he's unpleasant to be around, so don't be around him.
What is causing you to put up with his nonsense - even once a week?

I don't want to block him on the phone (he is not on any form of social media) because it seems childish after so many years.

A darn sight less childish than meekly putting up with his constant criticisms & nitpicking, surely? You say you are confident in yourself, so why do you keep returning to this man for more verbal abuse?

I grew up with brothers who took the piss out of me remorselessly, and I struggle with this kind of thing.

Stop struggling, & ditch the man - he's not one of your brothers, & you are not a child, so you have no reason to have to accept his behaviours.

You need a clean break. End it, then bock, so he can't goad you by text.

ChargingBuck · 11/09/2021 17:47

block! - not bock.

DuchessOfDisaster · 12/09/2021 08:29

@TheFoundations

Just tell him it's not working for you and it's over.

What would be the advantage of dragging it out by taking calls every day and letting it fade? You've written about 15 paragraphs to basically say 'My relationship doesn't work; how shall I end it?'

Drop the drama, do what needs to be done, and start moving on.

Yes. He texted me about three times last night, simple chit chat about Emma Raducanu and the US Open. I chose not to reply whilst I work out what to say - simply that it doesn't work, we're not on the same page and there's no point carrying on.

He's always got something to grumble about and it's wearing being with someone like that. I actually asked him whilst away, in the middle of all the moaning, how would he feel if when we returned that was it? He said he would be devastated but he would know that he had done nothing wrong ...

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GillBiggeloesHair · 12/09/2021 08:40

Honestly if you are not financially tied to him and there are no kids, just end it.
He sounds horrible and his is not how a loving long term relationship should be.

Lampan · 12/09/2021 08:46

If he invited himself along on your holiday he doesn’t sound like the type to passively accept a relationship fading away.
You need to end it definitively, and there is no need to explain why. Just be firm and say you have decided not to continue. The more reasons you give the more he can argue against. He has no respect for you and doesn’t even like you. He sounds awful. End it.

Orgasmagorical · 12/09/2021 08:50

I don't want to block him on the phone (he is not on any form of social media) because it seems childish after so many years.

If you want to block him just do it, never mind what he thinks, you're going to be in the wrong whatever you do, according to him.

I wouldn't give him any reasons for ending it as he won't accept any responsibility and anything you say will be turned against you, he will say whatever suits his narrative. Better just to say it's not working for you anymore.

You've put up with a lot Flowers

MyOtherProfile · 12/09/2021 08:54

I'd end it by explaining he has indeed done something wrong!

Restinblue · 12/09/2021 09:01

That sounds exhausting. I wouldn’t want to spend a single day like that.

I would end it clearly once and for all.

Whydidimarryhim · 12/09/2021 09:03

He’s a cruel damaged man. You need to end it - it’s no longer working for you.
You may end up blocking him as he will likely become abusive to you. He’s already abusing you - 💐
It’s not childish to block someone if it protects you.
You do not have to take abuse from this man.
You do not need to take abuse from anyone.

ByeByeMissAmericanPie · 12/09/2021 09:11

Direct message ‘The relationship is not working for me. Goodbye’
Then block him.

Don’t engage in any further discussion as he’ll draw you back in.

What a shame that he ruined a holiday that was special for you.

HollowTalk · 12/09/2021 09:11

I am horrified that you would consider talking to him again after that. He is a horrible man. Surely the best thing to do is to send him a text and say but after that holiday, you realise that you don't want to spend any more time with him and wish him the best of luck. Then block him.

DuchessOfDisaster · 12/09/2021 09:12

Thank you everyone. It's a weird one for me, this, because I've known him for so long. We used to get on so well and enjoy going places and doing things. He's changed a lot since he took early retirement, and seems to resent that I have more money, have a book shortly to be published and am doing well in my career. Or so it feels. He would deny that and say he is proud of me.

He's been lazily withdrawing from making any effort (other than calling me daily and messaging) for a while, and Covid has provided an opportunity not to bother. He has called every day, that's true, but I don't get anything out of this now.

He says that he dreads seeing me because I will lecture/criticise/pontificate - the alternative is to put up with being grumbled at and criticised. Also since taking early retirement he's started going to a pub daily in the daytime and hanging out with a diverse group of guys, none of whom I know, and the swearing and language has become far worse since then. I find it distasteful and horrible and feel picky for asking him to stop swearing.

He really does see himself as a sound, likeable bloke. It's seemingly only me who has a problem with him!

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layladomino · 12/09/2021 09:14

There's obviously no question you need to end it. He sounds awful. You clearly don't like him much (with good reason by the sound of it!). Please don't waste another day on this man.

I would normally say after so many years that you should end it face to face, but based on how he's treated you on holiday this last week (a holiday you had planned to go on your hand, had presumably paid for, and he invited himself on, then ruined) you don't owe him anything at all.

Just a phone call or even a text. Say it isn't working for you, and it's clear neither of you is happy with the other, so you're ending it. All the best....

Then move on. Don't take his calls. Ignore messages. Enjoy life and not being ground down by this man.

layladomino · 12/09/2021 09:14

*go in your OWN not HAND!

layladomino · 12/09/2021 09:15

*go ON your OWN

Grin
Newestname002 · 12/09/2021 09:19

@DuchessOfDisaster

What a complete waste of energy this man seems. Why haven't you raised your boundaries further and left him on the very far side?

He doesn't seem to be adding anything positive to your life so why are you allowing him to still be in it?

Seriously - pull the plaster off and remove him from your future. 🌹

DuchessOfDisaster · 12/09/2021 09:25

[quote Newestname002]@DuchessOfDisaster

What a complete waste of energy this man seems. Why haven't you raised your boundaries further and left him on the very far side?

He doesn't seem to be adding anything positive to your life so why are you allowing him to still be in it?

Seriously - pull the plaster off and remove him from your future. 🌹[/quote]
Yes, I know. I see posts on this forum all the time from women dating questionable characters and highlighting red flags and know that I would get rid at the first opportunity.

I've known him for decades (I'm not giving an excuse; I'm not in love with him, tied to him or feel I should be with him, trauma bonded or anything or afraid to let go). I suppose I feel sad for the good times we used to have.

He's an absolutely dreadful communicator, and when I've tried to talk about this sort of thing tells me he is rubbish at emotional stuff. It's not emotional in the least to ask someone to stop behaviour that someone else finds inappropriate!

I simply struggle to understand why someone (him) would want to be around someone like me when he clearly doesn't like me very much, as his behaviour would suggest!!!

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Dontforgetyourbrolly · 12/09/2021 09:32

He doesn't like you . It doesn't matter how long you have known each other, just move on.
Not the same thing but I had a friend I'd known all my life as our mums are friends. She is a dreadful person but kept on with the friendship as I'd known her for so long . She treated me and others terribly and I never enjoyed spending time with her it was a chore. In the end she was abusive by text and I cut her off last year. It's been amazing, I feel like a weight has been lifted .

Cocogreen · 12/09/2021 09:35

The relationship seems to have run its course. I'd just say to him that you seem to irritate rack other too much when you spend time together and have grown apart so you'd like to end it.

litterbird · 12/09/2021 09:44

It’s difficult leaving someone youve known forever but this has clearly gone way past its sell by date. Not many relationships are a happy ever after. You just don’t work together anymore and actually think you dont really like each other either. Let go and find peace with yourself or someone else who won’t be so exhausting to be around.

Newestname002 · 12/09/2021 09:47

@DuchessOfDisaster

I simply struggle to understand why someone (him) would want to be around someone like me when he clearly doesn't like me very much, as his behaviour would suggest!!!

You are overthinking this, OP. 🌹

DuchessOfDisaster · 12/09/2021 09:55

[quote Newestname002]@DuchessOfDisaster

I simply struggle to understand why someone (him) would want to be around someone like me when he clearly doesn't like me very much, as his behaviour would suggest!!!

You are overthinking this, OP. 🌹[/quote]
I think this is what it does, though, doesn't it? Make us question ourselves as to our behaviour, core personality, character etc? I spent yesterday asking myself if I really am dreadful and my friends haven't sussed it out yet OR they have and won't tell me!

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myfacelookslikeatoe · 12/09/2021 09:55

The stuff about your lip and the taking photos would have made me end it, he doesn’t like you. You will feel amazing once you end this, you’re doing what I’m doing in a similar situation, holding on for the good times to return, but that was a mask and the mask slipped many years ago.

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