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Baby with ex

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Mummabear2jnj · 03/09/2021 18:32

OK, this is a bit of a mad situation for me and I'm really struggling with it. I'll try and get straight to the point. I'm a single mum of 2 boys, and in April I met who I thought was the man of my dreams basically. He told me straight away that after he had split with his ex she found out she was pregnant and was due in October. He was always clear that he wanted to be a hands on dad with the baby, and I was ok with that. I've had a hysterectomy and can't have children now, and he doesn't see his other children (different mums) after lots of problems. He was a victim of domestic abuse and coercive control and there are still court proceedings going on with access, which is another story. Well, his ex had lots of complications and I would always encourage him to be with her if she needed him. The baby was born prematurely 6 weeks ago and is still in icu. He was present at the birth and He goes every day to see his boy whose doing well and over 3 lbs now. This is my problem. He refuses to tell his ex that he has a girlfriend, aka ME. We've been together over 4 months now and when she found out we were dating she went bananas. His fear was that she will stopping seeing his baby. She initially wanted him back, which he refused as they had a very turbulent relationship and she didn't treat him very well. She apologised and tried to get him to go back because she struggles with her other child who is 5 and he had been like her step dad for 18 months. She accuses him of not being focused on the baby and so he says that's why he won't tell her about us. She tries to get him to look after her other child to hopefully get him back which im not ok with,especially as I have two children that would ultimately be his step children if the relationship continued. When the baby comes home he will have to spend his days at her house with the baby initially, which is going to be difficult. I've asked him to tell her that we are just dating even, but he point blank refuses as he doesn't want to hurt her even more with her struggling with the experience she's gone and going through. So when he's with her she has no idea he's been with me for the last four months and she's controlling him by saying he can only have the baby overnight if he gets his own place, he can't have him at his mums etc....hes paying her 200 pounds a month and is basically at her beckon call. Its driving me insane now tbh. I'm supporting him as much as possible, but I feel so insignificant in this situation. I guess I am really, but If we carry on together I'll be having a relationship with his child in the long run and I don't think she is ever going to be happy about that. I wish I could just walk away tbh, but hes a lovely hearted person and he doesn't want anybody to be hurt, but he wants more than anything to be a father and will do whatever he can to make sure nothing jeopardises that. Any advice? Its unlikely, but has anybody else been in this predicament?

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user1471457751 · 04/09/2021 00:05

@theworldsbiggestcrocodile does your DP have at least 3 crazy exes he's had kids with but with each one there are custody issues? If not, then it's not really comparable. One crazy ex is possibly believable, 3 suggests he's at least part of the problem. And that he's not especially discerning considering he's fathered kids with at least 3 different women, not exactly a stable relationship kind of guy.

SarahBellam · 04/09/2021 00:18

You’ve been dating for 4 months and he has a child in ICU. For heaven’s sake, back off. The placenta is older than your relationship. He must be worried sick. It sounds like you are incompatible - he has a baby in intensive care and your priority is to get him to tell the baby’s mother her ex has a girlfriend. I can’t imagine for one minute you’re at the top of the priority list.

Bananarama21 · 04/09/2021 00:31

Hes got enough red flags to make bunting. Raise your standards op.

QueenBee52 · 04/09/2021 01:27

The placenta is older than your relationship

🤣😂

Mummabear2jnj · 04/09/2021 02:06

Was a good one that, actually Grin

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SD1978 · 04/09/2021 02:22

Sorry- but leave. It's 4 months and you're talking about how he's the potential stepdad to your children?! And it's all the other women(s) fault that he doesn't see his kids- they all are juts unreasonable and it's not anything to do with him at all..........you should be focusing on your kids, let him do the same until no doubt according him she is also an unreasonable woman like all the other mothers of his children and stops contact for absolutely no reason.........or maybe accept that they may have a reason they all don't want him near the kids?

Aquamarine1029 · 04/09/2021 02:37

Gently, what the fuck are you thinking? This man is a living, breathing red flag. Why on earth would you even consider bringing this car crash into your children's lives? You should have run for the hills 3.5 months ago.

EccentricaGalumbits · 04/09/2021 02:41

Aside from all the other shit going on in his life, it sounds like your relationship with him is moving along really fast.

You have 2 kids at home, presumably you are keeping them separate from him as it's way too soon to introduce, how much time are you spending with this guy and his family/friends? Why would it affect you if he sees his baby during the day?

It all sounds very intense and rushed, and it's clouding your judgement. This guy is a trainwreck, honestly, it's visible from space.

Aquamarine1029 · 04/09/2021 02:42

This guy is a trainwreck, honestly, it's visible from space.

This is the best line ever, and 100% true. I'm stealing it.

Mummabear2jnj · 04/09/2021 02:54

Ouch 🤦🏽‍♀️ it makes no difference, but she threw him out and didn't want to get back with him when she found out she was pregnant....until she found out we were dating. It has been very intense, and my judgement is really clouded, hence me looking for impartial advice. Its definitely a unanimous Run for the hills! A cross the board x

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AzraiL · 04/09/2021 03:16

Run, my dear. Far, far away from him. He will ruin your life.

Sakurami · 04/09/2021 04:10

It's a bit weird that he has all these crazy exes. What is he doing starting a relationship when he has to concentrate on custody for his existing children and a baby on the way?

Agree with other people that there are too many red flags. His family may be biased.

But you have kids yourself and you don't need this drama.

EccentricaGalumbits · 04/09/2021 04:15

@Mummabear2jnj

Ouch 🤦🏽‍♀️ it makes no difference, but she threw him out and didn't want to get back with him when she found out she was pregnant....until she found out we were dating. It has been very intense, and my judgement is really clouded, hence me looking for impartial advice. Its definitely a unanimous Run for the hills! A cross the board x
Sorry. He might absolutely adore you and be lovely and funny and caring and treat you like a queen... what we're saying doesn't diminish any of that, it's just that he's completely dysfunctional and not relationship material.

You're established and you have your shit together so you are looking towards the future. He's stuck dealing with the present mess and unresolved relationships from the past. It'll never work.

Opentooffers · 04/09/2021 04:35

Something about this seems off. I don't think his version of events is necessarily reality. Why would anyone insist that the father has to move out from his parents before getting access? How bad a BF are you when a GF bins you off because of being pregnant? It doesn't tally, I don't think you have seen the real him yet.

litterbird · 04/09/2021 04:47

I don’t think he is telling you the whole truth, just his version of events to keep you hooked. With all due respect……………RRRRRRRUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNN. I have never seen a post on MN with this many red flags! Save yourself and your children immediately. This has chaos written all over it.

EdgeOfACoin · 04/09/2021 04:59

@Opentooffers

Something about this seems off. I don't think his version of events is necessarily reality. Why would anyone insist that the father has to move out from his parents before getting access? How bad a BF are you when a GF bins you off because of being pregnant? It doesn't tally, I don't think you have seen the real him yet.
I agree with this. I don't think you're getting the whole truth.

Also, his friends and family may have corroborated his version of events but surely they are just going off what he's told them? I have trouble believing there are soooo many crazy exes in the frame. Most women I know are not crazy.

romdowa · 04/09/2021 05:18

You're a grown woman with two children. Do you really need this hassle in your life? In your children's lives? I'm sure that there are loads of fellas out there that are far less complicated 🤔 don't allow this guy to create all this drama in your life after only 4 months.

Grimsknee · 04/09/2021 05:33

If you stay in this, inevitably one day he'll be talking to his next mark about you as one of his crazy exes.

RantyAunty · 04/09/2021 06:44

Maybe his friends, family, and exes can scrape up enough money for a vasectomy for Christmas.

GreyCarpet · 04/09/2021 08:54

@LifesNotEnidBlyton

This is all sorts of reg clay and wrong. Seriously this is too much too soon. You've been together four months. He's got children he doesn't see and is having problems with seeing. He's got a less than two month old baby in NICU. He seems to have a string of "crazy exes" (really worrying because he's either lying, or if hes not its drama you don't need). You say be was "step father" to his exes daughter for 18 months. So he's been with someone who he says abused him and had children, split with her, doesn't see those kids but says he's trying to see them, then got together with someone else, played step dad for 18 months and left her, she turned out to be pregnant, got with you, the baby has been born and is premature and in NICU, and now hes saying he wont tell her about you two "dating" because she'll be angry.

Do you see the problems here?

This woman has a small child and a newborn in NICU, she doesn't need to know about her messy exes four month old "relationship".

Seriously OP, run from this. Usually I tell people on here to do what they want, but honestly knowing you've got children of your own to think about and with the mess this mans life obviously is, I'd tell you as you've asked that you should leave this man to his complicated love and family life.

All of this is pretty much what I was thinking while reading your post.
Mummabear2jnj · 04/09/2021 11:11

His mum smokes and even though she'd smoke in the back garden she doesn't want him having the baby there over night so he's in the process of getting a place. I understand this yet know ots another way of controlling him. I've witnessed how demanding she can be and its basically her way or no way. When she initially found out we had dated hes had to tell her we aren't together and just friends because she was threatening him with not seeing the baby or refusing to give him updates on things so I can see why he would be reluctant. But I suppose he shouldn't be seeing anybody at all if he's not prepared to be honest. I know I'm not a priority, but with her wanting him back now she's realised how much he did for her and how difficult its gonna be with the baby and her other little one, I'd feel alot more comfortable with them spending time together. I get how selfish that sounds. I need to give my head a wobble!

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GreyCarpet · 04/09/2021 12:05

I don't know. We didn't visit my ex's parents when the baby was small because his mum smoked. Yes, she smoked in the garden when we were there but it was on her clothes and in her house.

Unfortunately, when it comes to your children it is your way or the highway 🤷🏻‍♀️

Lockdownbear · 04/09/2021 12:17

Not much to add other than there's 3 sides to every story. Her version, his and the truth somewhere in the middle.

Run as it seems very complicated and he's not as innocent as he's making out.

QueenBee52 · 04/09/2021 13:40

you need to end this ... its no way to live 🌸

Mummabear2jnj · 04/09/2021 23:05

I hear this. Loud and clear. Thanks everybody x

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