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Go Nc with DM or not

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Poniesandgin · 30/08/2021 20:10

I’m going to have to try and make this as non identifying as possible so please bear with me.

DM has always had mental health problems. Sectioned at one point, on meds for this and seems to be stable.
She has had problems with alcohol, binge drinking and being abusive to my father who left her. There was also domestic violence regularly when I was growing up up until the divorce when I was 16 or so.
My childhood was a misery. Fear, constant worry about the drinking and violence, finding DM drunk on the stairs etc. Every weekend was spent terrified of what might happen or being kept awake all night. Dm however thinks I had a lovely childhood and also thinks she’s been a great parent Hmm

Since the divorce I’ve been NC with father who has since got on with a normal life.

DM seemed to be sorted on the outside. Has her own house and seems happy enough. She put a lot of effort into spending time with and helping me with her DGC and has been a nice enough grandmother. She has helped with childcare etc often and seemed to be doing well. I can’t forgive her but have managed to rebuild some sort of relationship. We aren’t close but can speak.

However, I found out recently by chance she was still drinking heavily pretty much every night. Bottles and bottles of wine. She also let me down quite badly in one of these ‘blips’ which unravelled the whole thing.

Now I can’t trust her. I can barely look at her. She won’t admit it, said she isn’t drinking when I know she is. She just denies it over and over and over despite me having concrete evidence. Once in a drunken conversation she broke down and cried yet the next day had forgotten the conversation ever happened.
I’ve blocked her number and no longer speak to her after 5pm incase she’s drinking but I really can’t look her in the face. She’s constantly posting drunk crap on social media and messaging me things that make no sense.

I don’t think i can get past this, all those awful years have came flooding back and I don’t want my children around that.
The logical part of me thinks she’s only drinking at night so what she does in her own home is up to her but at the same time it’s a betrayal and I thought she was over it. She’s not even supposed to drink at all on her medications.

So where do I go from here. The trust is broken but at the same time she’s been such a good grandparent to DC that I don’t know if I can shut her out for their sakes.
She won’t admit it, won’t get help because there’s no problem so how do I go about dealing with this now?

I’m tempted to ring her tomorrow and just say my piece but will that just make it worse?

OP posts:
AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/08/2021 20:19

Do not further subject such a woman to your children. Do you really think she has been a good grandparent to your children given how she has behaved towards you?. You would not tolerate this from a friend and your mother is no different. Also if there is no trust, there is no relationship.

The 3cs re alcoholism are you did not cause it, you cannot control it and you cannot cure it.

Get support for your own self from Al-anon, there is nothing you can do for your mother. Only she can decide to stop drinking and address the root causes of her alcoholism and she does not want to.

Poniesandgin · 30/08/2021 20:24

@AttilaTheMeerkat thank you.

It’s such a shame as she has really been there for my DC. She has spent a lot of time with them, picked them up from school, taken them on days out etc but now I don’t want to ask her to help at all. The trust is gone.
She has tried to rebuilt a relationship with me, help when I’m struggling with the housework etc and take the children when I’ve needed her and that sort of thing.

How can I know she’s got help if she won’t admit she’s got a problem. Tonight she has clearly been drunk yet is still denying it, over and over and making excuses but I can tell she’s slurring her words. It’s worse than her just admitting it because it’s like banging my head off a brick wall Sad

OP posts:
AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/08/2021 20:34

She is the only one who can decide to get help and she does not want it.

You cannot act as either a rescuer or saviour in any relationship, being either does not work.

You can only help your own self ultimately hence my suggestion to contact Al-anon. They are very helpful to those affected by another person’s drinking.

HairyMaryMyCanary · 30/08/2021 21:18

I'm sorry, OP. It does look as if the only thing you can do, for the benefit of your children, for your own peace of mind, and ultimately for your DM who will have to change if she wants the situation to improve, is to go non-contact.

My dd and her husband both concluded 'You can't fix your parents.' You can't.

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