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I ended my relationship and I’m so confused

41 replies

Martha52 · 28/08/2021 22:52

I’ve been seeing J for 14 months. I ended it on Wednesday. The first 10/11 months he was kind, affectionate, wonderful company. We were both very happy and excited about the future.

From the outset he told me he’s a loner and lives a low key life. He regularly says that nobody knows him and people think he’s weird. This worried me but our times together were wonderful. I felt cherished & loved.

Things changed a couple of months ago. A few times he told me that he’s stressed about things I’ve texted and the way I text. This shocked me.It always came out of the blue.

A couple of examples:

One time I was due to meet him for coffee but the day before I texted him: “Hey, I’ve finished the garden gazebo, weather forecast is great, instead of meeting for coffee fancy coming here & we’ll have a bbq?”

He didn’t reply. Later I texted to know if he was okay. He said no, he was very stressed, said he doesn’t appreciate people “changing plans by text at breakneck speed at the last minute.” I was totally taken aback. I mean WTF?!

Last month I was with my (adult) son when he got a message telling him he was a close contact of someone with Covid. Shortly afterwards J messaged to ask how my day was going. I replied telling him my son had to go for a Covid test as he was a close contact. The rest of that afternoon I was very busy driving my son for a test & helping him get groceries etc (he had to isolate) so I updated J a few times by text. I’d spent the afternoon with J the day before so I messaged him to say I didn’t think he had to worry about getting Covid because I’d only seen my son for a few minutes that week so it’s unlikely that I caught Covid & passed it to J (also we’re both vaccinated).

He messaged later saying that I’d caused him a lot of discomfort & stress by texting him about my son’s Covid situation rather than phoning him. I was shocked and asked if we could talk on the phone. We did. He kept talking about me stressing him and saying my messages made him uncomfortable. He said my message (and others in the past) made him feel like I’m trying to decide his fate. He said I'd crossed a line with my Covid messages and that it was inappropriate to text such things rather than phone.

He also said he had been through a very rough experience in the past with a woman who stalked him and destroyed his life (he’d already told me all about that) and said “Here I am again, on the back foot, being told what to do.”

Again, I was upset and really shocked by his (over)reaction.

After that we had minimal contact for 2 weeks till he asked me to meet for coffee. Over coffee he said that he still felt the same way about me causing him stress by the way I message. He also said I'dtransformed his life and he doesn’t want to lose me but “The pendulum had shifted. You were angry with me on the phone.” He said he didn’t like how upset and annoyed I’d been on the phone (the call when he complained about my Covid texts). I said I was hurt and shocked and upset.

We met three times since that chat. I decided to give it another go as the first 11/12 months were so amazing. But unfortunately he’s been distant each time we met.

Last Sunday he asked me to meet on Wednesday for a meal. On Monday my brother said he was doing a gig Wednesday night in a local restaurant. I thought it would be lovely to go with J.

I phoned him (being mindful of his aversion to my texts) and said there’s no pressure but would he like to go to the gig & have a meal there. He said sure.

I was excited but when he got in the car on Wednesday he immediately greeted me with “I’m so stressed.” No smile or kiss. He said his daughter needed him to drive her somewhere but he couldn’t because he was meeting me. I said it’s fine if he needed us to reschedule. He said no. We had a good evening but he was distant.

After the gig I asked him about his lack of affection and he said it will take time for our issues to work themselves out. He said he has a huge amount of stress in his life and a lot of it is because of the relationship problems.

What problems? I feel he’s creating these so-called problems. I feel he’s punishing me with his constant accusations of causing him stress & his lack of affection.

He’s always playing the victim. I’m exhausted from it.

Wednesday finished with me saying I can’t go on with the criticism, overreactions and his coldness. He just kept saying it will take time to get back to where we were. I said I won’t be contacting him anymore.

He said “So you don’t want me because I have stress in my life?” Eh no. It’s because he’s blaming me for his stress levels.

The last straw was when he said he had wanted a quiet meal that evening but I'd pressured him to go to the gig. I couldn’t believe it. I’d suggested we go and he said yes. I wasn’t pushy at all.

It’s over but my head and heart are in bits.

OP posts:
TiredButDancing · 28/08/2021 23:31

He sounds awful. I understand why people are wondering if he has mental health problems or autism, but at the end of the day, he's behaving appallingly, and treating OP's perfectly normal interactions and behaviours as problematic. Nothing screams, "manipulative gas lighting controlling dickhead" like someone who tries to insist that normal communication methods are a problem.

RevolvingPivot · 28/08/2021 23:37

Yes I understand change of routine and plans are an symptom (can't think of a better word) of autism but you can't all of a sudden get it can you? He would have been like this from the start unless there are other factors that have recently happened as said in my last post.

Sakurami · 28/08/2021 23:47

How stressful! Definitely right to end it op.

Tempusfudgeit · 28/08/2021 23:48

Life is far too short to spend it with this man. Onwards and upwards!

Martha52 · 28/08/2021 23:54

@bluebell34567

maybe he stopped taking his medication.
He did! He told me early on that he was on 2.5 Xanax a day to help him sleep. He stopped taking it a few months ago. He cut down to 2, then 1.5 etc. He’s off it now. It might seem odd that I didn’t mention this earlier but he honestly acted like it was no big deal. He had no physical withdrawal symptoms but I’m guessing it’s messed up his brain wiring.
OP posts:
LV2NY · 28/08/2021 23:57

Definitely seems to be a connection there.

OrlandointheWilderness · 29/08/2021 00:00

Holy crap, bloody lucky escape there I reckon!

Cam001 · 29/08/2021 00:08

Drugs?

Martha52 · 29/08/2021 09:02

Thanks so much everyone for the replies and support. 💓

OP posts:
DiscoStusMoonboots · 29/08/2021 09:46

You've done the right thing, OP. Re. potential mental health issues, could it be OCD? In my early days with my husband, I masked my need for routine very well as I knew it could be the means of losing him. After 18 months, I relaxed into our relationship more and became (how to put it diplomatically...) hard work, from time to time. I need structure, hate unknown crowds and 'unknowns' - even trying a new restaurant could be a big deal for me

We're four years on now and I've had to work HARD. But I completely understand how his drama must have depleted your reserves- it sounds like very challenging behaviour.

Whatever you decide long term, make it for and about you. Life is too short to be second guessing and miserable.

Opaljewel · 29/08/2021 11:34

Too much hard work and egg shell walking. Done the right thing.

Martha52 · 29/08/2021 14:00

@DiscoStusMoonboots

You've done the right thing, OP. Re. potential mental health issues, could it be OCD? In my early days with my husband, I masked my need for routine very well as I knew it could be the means of losing him. After 18 months, I relaxed into our relationship more and became (how to put it diplomatically...) hard work, from time to time. I need structure, hate unknown crowds and 'unknowns' - even trying a new restaurant could be a big deal for me

We're four years on now and I've had to work HARD. But I completely understand how his drama must have depleted your reserves- it sounds like very challenging behaviour.

Whatever you decide long term, make it for and about you. Life is too short to be second guessing and miserable.

That’s very interesting. He definitely has major issues with changes to plans and meeting new people. I put that down to his introverted nature and anxiety. Yeah f he has OCD or any other mental health issue I would definitely be willing to hang in there and be supportive. My son has bipolar so I’m accustomed to serious MH issues. The problem is that J is turning it all on me. He can be so kind and caring too but the last six weeks it’s been coldness and criticism of me. It’s gonna take a long time for me to parse and process it all. Part of me wants him back but a bigger part says no. I was widowed at 40 with a 7 year old and two young teenagers. Then my son’s bipolar put a huge strain on all of us for 4-5 years. Life is just becoming easier for me at 50. My instincts tell me to run!
OP posts:
AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit · 29/08/2021 14:04

Austictic. Okay. Nobody can just be a twat anymore

QueenBee52 · 29/08/2021 14:21

@AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit

Austictic. Okay. Nobody can just be a twat anymore

yip

HappyGoPlucky · 30/08/2021 09:51

I'm so sorry to hear of your loss, OP. Thanks
Women aren't support humans and too often that's how we end up. Fair enough if it's for our own children but we're not put on this Earth to be psychotherapists and nursemaids to men. You've already changed your behaviour to cater to his needs and it hasn't made him any happier; it's only made you anxious.
Find your own happiness and don't waste a second thought on this man.
Really, who cares why he acts the way he does? It's not your responsibility or problem. You can't fix him - so focus on yourself and your own needs. You deserve it.

layladomino · 30/08/2021 16:28

Oh wow you have done the right thing. As pp said, he either gets a perverse enjoyment out of making you feel bad, or he has significant MH issues which he is projecting on to you and blaming you.

Either way you are better of out of it.

If it's the latter, then perhaps with appropriate help (from professionals, not you) he could improve, but that isn't your job to sort, and in any case it doesn't like he'd be open to seeking help as he seems himself as the victim and you are to blame for his ills.

Please do what's right for you. And avoid long discussions about it - it feels as though he may keep coming back for more until you admit it was all your fault, or kindly offering you a 3rd chance if you'll accept it was all your fault.

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