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Feeling like a single parent please help

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Michelle231 · 28/08/2021 00:03

Hi all, I am new to mumsnet and seeking some advice. I have been with my partner 11 years and have 3 daughters together, 4 months, 3yrs & 7yrs. We are both in our mid to late twenties.

My partner is a self employed tradesman and I use to be a self employed beautician working around his hours of work usually late evenings and saturdays, we are both ambitious and hard workers however after the covid lockdowns, baby #3 and the increasing work load from my partners job it made it difficult to continue my job so I have had to close my buisness for the forseeable future.

With our first daughter, my partner was fantastic - very hands on loved family time always made an effort to go out and do things as a family. I would say that after our second things started to get rocky, at the time he was in partnership with his ex boss and used the 2 weeks he had booked off to go and do a private job for his friend - I had quite a traumatic birth and was severely anemic alongside having to do nursery runs for our eldest on my own. He has since become more and more distant, working 6 days a week, finishing around 8pm most days and then on his day off he is going out for the day to a track to ride motorcross. Again, after our 3rd was born he had booked 2 weeks off had promised a lunch date etc but went back to work the following day and spent the few days he was at home helping his brother fix his car while his nephew was running around the house - this has annoyed me because I see this time as important to bond with the baby and also help me recover from birth. Now, please do not think I am being ungrateful in the fact that I know he is working hard to provide for us and that is a rarity in this day and age - I also completely understand the demand and pressure of being self employed but I feel so alone, I feel like I have given up everything that makes me independent and well, me. He doesn't help with bath times unless he is asked or simple things like cleaning up after I have cooked dinner and his idea of spending time with the kids is sitting infront of the TV holding the baby and watching the two older ones play. We have just come back off of a weekend break where he invited his parents (I had no issue with this) however I felt we barely saw each other the whole weekend as he spent most of the time with his dad. There is no effort or appreciation on his part, nothing ever happens unless I plan it and I find it difficult to get out with house with all 3 on my own so spend most of my time sat in. I have spoke to him about the situation but he just tells me work is not going to be like this forever and he is only working like this to save a deposit for a house. I feel miserable and alone and I don't know what to do. I have completely gone off sex with him and he never initiates it, never touchy feeling and will sit on opposite sides of the sofa and whenever we do talk it's always about his work. I do not feel he is cheating or up to no good but at the same time I feel he wants out.

Any mummies been in this situation and can send over some advice?

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Graphista · 28/08/2021 00:11

I think you'd be better off getting this one deleted and post in relationships board.

I get you're feeling abandoned by him but you're not ACTUALLY a single parent and frankly it's rather offensive to post on the lone parents board AND the thread title too

I raised my dd as a single parent and while I sympathise with the issues you're having with him that's a relationships issue not a lone parent one.

You need to talk to him and tell him how you're feeling and be very very clear that it's unacceptable for him to leave all the childcare, chores and mental load to you. You are both parents and you're meant to be a team, a family and he needs to prioritise you and the kids over other relatives and non essential activities etc especially while the kids are so little.

You're also extremely vulnerable being unmarried and financially dependent on him. Best thing would be to get back to working ASAP and possibly also get married. It's not just if you split up you're vulnerable it's if anything happened to him and he became incapacitated or died.

Lots to think about

GrandmasCat · 28/08/2021 07:26

I admit I also cringe when I hear women who have a partner paying the bills or not helping calling themselves single parents. Having said that I also cringe at single parents making a fuss about having no one to help when they have lots of very active and proactive nannies/family members taking care of the child so they can act not like single parents but like single people.

In truth, most of us single parents carrying all the load started our journey as such as you did, with an unhelpful uninvolved parent or one who was fantastic until the children arrived and who failed miserably at making the transition from wonderful partner to involved co parent.

If what you want is to find a route to carry on on your own, you will find a lot of help here, but we may probably be a bit rubbish in helping to save such relationship as, from outside, it looks like the kind of situation many of us worked so hard to break free from or one that we were forced into by an irresponsible person so we may be a bit biased.

Raising children on your own is not for the faint hearted, it does need a lot of courage and grit but, one thing that I noticed was that it was far more difficult to take the decision to leave than dealing with the consequences of it. I also noticed that raising DS on my own, was far less work than raising him on my own trying to get exH to help. The main issue you should not overlook is money, there will be less of it and there’s no way you can happily raise three kids without a job so you may need to prepare for a good few years (get an income, have all kids in school, save the money) to break free when the moment is right.

GrandmasCat · 28/08/2021 07:39

Another important point is that it is practically impossible to get a self employed ex to pay their fair level of maintenance if they don’t want to. So you really need to get back to work as soon as you can.

Michelle231 · 28/08/2021 10:57

Thank you all for your comments, apologies as I couldn't find a relationship thread when posting to thought was the closest thread to where I could get advice. I do not mean in anyway to offend any single mummies or dads your are super stars and I really do take my hat off to you all. Thanks again for the advice I will try and find the relationship thread to post on there Smile

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AllTheSingleLadiess · 28/08/2021 11:41

I asked MN to move this to Relationships for you.

KimMumsnet · 28/08/2021 11:43

Hi there, @Michelle231. Welcome to Mumsnet!
We'll move this thread over to our Relationships board for you now.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships
Best,
Kim
MNHQ

Michelle231 · 28/08/2021 11:44

Thank you, @KimMumsnet I'm still finding my feet around the site. Blush

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Michelle231 · 28/08/2021 11:48

@GrandmasCat sorry, I should of clarified that I am still working with a few of my long standing clients this is just to cover rent and general bills, he has responsibility of car bills and half of the monthly food shop, but I am obviously at minimum capacity just to afford general bills without leway.

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TopBitchoftheWitches · 28/08/2021 11:55

@GrandmasCat

I admit I also cringe when I hear women who have a partner paying the bills or not helping calling themselves single parents. Having said that I also cringe at single parents making a fuss about having no one to help when they have lots of very active and proactive nannies/family members taking care of the child so they can act not like single parents but like single people.

In truth, most of us single parents carrying all the load started our journey as such as you did, with an unhelpful uninvolved parent or one who was fantastic until the children arrived and who failed miserably at making the transition from wonderful partner to involved co parent.

If what you want is to find a route to carry on on your own, you will find a lot of help here, but we may probably be a bit rubbish in helping to save such relationship as, from outside, it looks like the kind of situation many of us worked so hard to break free from or one that we were forced into by an irresponsible person so we may be a bit biased.

Raising children on your own is not for the faint hearted, it does need a lot of courage and grit but, one thing that I noticed was that it was far more difficult to take the decision to leave than dealing with the consequences of it. I also noticed that raising DS on my own, was far less work than raising him on my own trying to get exH to help. The main issue you should not overlook is money, there will be less of it and there’s no way you can happily raise three kids without a job so you may need to prepare for a good few years (get an income, have all kids in school, save the money) to break free when the moment is right.

There are also single mums who have no one to help. You are being ridiculous.
GrandmasCat · 28/08/2021 14:02

Yes, I’m one of those, 24/7 no family in a 2000 miles ratio and no other parent involved since divorce, financially or otherwise. So not ridiculous, I know what I am talking about.

GrandmasCat · 28/08/2021 14:11

@Michelle231, that is a very good starting position.

So you pay the bills, the rent and half of the food? Honestly, you will be fine, you are doing the most difficult part already. Are you working more than16 hrs a week?

Go to entitledto.co.uk (or entitled to.org.uk..) to calculate what kind of help you could get if you split. I’m not sure what the situation is these days but in the past, there was a difference on how much you could get if you worked more than 16 or 30 hrs a week.

By the way, I am not saying you should give up in your relationship but knowing where you stand may give you a better negotiating standing to get your partner to pull his weight. It would also help you to avoid feeling trapped if you feel the relationship has ran it’s course.

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