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Has my ex been indoctrinated by a cult or is he being radicalised??

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Whatthecluckinghell · 27/08/2021 11:59

Just that really.

Back story.
ExDp has always been a conspiracy theorist of some sort, various conspiracies over the course of our relationship, some where utterly ridiculous but this latest one is becoming downright dangerous.

So as we all know Covid has come and turned everyone's lives upside down however my exDp has now (recently) come across the conspiracy of the vaccine and covid as a whole subject, bare with me, il ramble because its so hard to articulate this without sounding like a loony. He has suddenly decided to believe that everyone who has had the vaccines will die in 6 months to 3 years (you've probably already heard that because thousands of other people believe it too) and that eventually there will be forced vaccinations of children and if you don't allow it they (the army/police/medical staff) will forcefully remove them from your care and if you as an adult refuse the jabs you'll be dragged kicking and screaming to a 'quarantine camp' where you either have the jab or they will kill you..he believes the army has been brought back from Afghanistan to enforce this, and bring in martial law. Now every single person he talks to online are filling his head with the fact he's on the right track, he's woken, he's onto the truth and he must spread the word. Now as far as conspiracies go whilst it's very worrying he believes that it gets alot worse... he recently suggested he was going to buy weapons and suggested he would kill anyone who tried to forcefully vaccinate our children/him, he has been watching bitchute videos almost none stop from the minute he wakes up to the moment he goes to sleep, even when he's at work he's 'researching' between tasks, the videos he is watching are all horrific and they all push a narrative of being prepped to harm/kill those who have taken part in this covid stuff ie the vaccinators/the government/the elites/the police/the army. Now its not just him who has been sucked into this as thousands upon thousands of people all over the globe share the exact same thought process/beliefs. He is a member of loads of Facebook groups/online groups that all peddle this stuff and make people believe them.

Now I am very very concerned about all of this, at first I wasn't bothered because who is he realistically hurting? Nobody UNTIL he started on about getting weapons (he hasn't got any...yet) his own parents think he is in a cult, I fear he is being radicalised, I'm worried he will harm someone even though it is not in his usual nature, I don't know what to do or where to turn.

I used to think conspiracy theories where relatively harmless but this one is proving otherwise. Its got worse over the space of 2 months, we are broken up, I don't believe in what he's saying, but he's got the voices of many many people behind him telling him he's right and every else who questions or shows concern are the enemy and sheep.

Is there any way I can help him? For what it's worth he knows if he shares these views with any mental health professionals/person in power he would be most likely sectioned/put on medications/locked up so he downplays it or just Denys it all but it's all over his social media the dangerous views albeit a watered down version of them, I'm scared for him, I'm not scared of him, I'm scared for him and what this means for him, and our DC.
Sorry for the ramble there's probably more but i can't think straight about it as my brains gone gaga trying to work out what to do.

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EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 27/08/2021 14:40

Op he's living with his parents - what are they like, are you in contact with them? Do you think they are aware of how "out there" his current beliefs are? Could you discuss with them his they can help keep your DC safe when they are there?

Please don't try to argue with him or as a PP said, you'll be "One of THEM" and in his current state he might feel compelled to keep the DC with him, to "protect" them (ie pour this bollocks into their heads until he's managed to brainwash them into the same beliefs as him)

Whatthecluckinghell · 27/08/2021 15:14

I brought it up over messages and he answered with 'are you sure the kids are safe with you since you don't have their best interests at heart' and then back tracked about the weapons and the harming others. But other than that the conversation didn't go to well.

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Aliceclara · 27/08/2021 15:22

The police will be interested. This is radicalisation. If he is talking about harming others it is your duty to inform the police.

Aliceclara · 27/08/2021 15:24

Prevent is when they work with the radicalised person helping them to see a more rounded and realistic viewpoint. Challenging the extreme views. He won't be arrested, they would work with him.

Boredmotherofone · 27/08/2021 16:37

@Whatthecluckinghell

I brought it up over messages and he answered with 'are you sure the kids are safe with you since you don't have their best interests at heart' and then back tracked about the weapons and the harming others. But other than that the conversation didn't go to well.
So he doesn't believe the kids are safe with you??? 😧
Whatthecluckinghell · 27/08/2021 17:50

@Boredmotherofone he knows the kids are safe with me but he's using it as a thing to use against me making out I don't care about their best interests etc because I'm apparently a sheep

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Anwenandtheicecreambaby · 27/08/2021 19:08

I have just blocked a man in my life who went down the same rabbit hole.
I think it is because he wanted to be a "hero" amid all the "threats" and this current crisis provided the backdrop for his "hero fantasies".

He may get over it. But let him stockpile food if he wants.
If he has a gun GET AWAY.

Boredmotherofone · 27/08/2021 19:21

[quote Whatthecluckinghell]@Boredmotherofone he knows the kids are safe with me but he's using it as a thing to use against me making out I don't care about their best interests etc because I'm apparently a sheep[/quote]
Oh I see, apologies. I read that in entirely the wrong context. Having a drowsy day.

How are you doing right now? Have you thought anymore about what you'll do moving forward? I've been in a similar position and I know it's not easy. Feel free to PM me if you'd like to chat. I have a lot of info on help I can signpost you to Gin

Peppaismyrolemodel · 27/08/2021 19:57

Police- they won’t arrest, but will do a welfare check, along with evidence from you (be explicit, let them see messages etc), will mean they can inform adult social care. Asc will deal with his mental health and the police will then only be notified by them/you when he makes threats (or you believe he will do, ie, making plans to buy weapons counts as making a threat, even though he has said I so many words). Police will absolutely want to know, and will not be heavy handed!

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