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Emotional abuse

14 replies

Idontknowwhat2 · 23/08/2021 07:04

Hi,

I've been in a relationship with man for two years. Single parent, as is he, so we can see each other once a week due to work/kids. We live 40 minutes from each other.

Things were quite good for the first year. He was keen and 'chasing'. Loving and reliable, almost a bit stalkerish at times.

He told me he couldn't tell his exP about a new partner as she had mental health issues, therefore he also couldn't introduce kids. This was despite her having a new partner (true). So I was gradually moved from being treated like a 'wonderful girlfriend' to being a secret to protect her wellbeing.

He started telling me about a wonderful long term female friend he has, but never introducing me. He was trying to make me jealous. On other occasions he'd tell me how his exP was still not over him (probably true, I think he manipulates her and plays the single man, he probably confuses her like he confuses me).

He has about 5 main 'people' in his life and each is compartmentalised, none ever meet the others, his exP, me, his female friend, his parents.

He will tell me things like wanting to introduce me to his parents, then when I ask a few weeks later he will act like he never said it. Then he'll say that he's not seeing them for a few months (probably true).

A few months ago I saw a message pop up from another woman on his phone. I dumped him. He begged me back, assured me he hadn't done anything more than chat to her etc. That he was lost without me, life not worth living etc. I forgave him and believed him, things were good for a short time. Then he started his 'manipulation' that I'd experienced previously.
Intermittently ignoring messages or phone calls from me for 24 hours. Not committing to dates to see me or changing them, knowing I had childcare to sort out. Having digs at me for having more money than him. Telling me he loves me but then not making time to see me or making last minute plans to see me. Telling me he can't see me as he's 'tired'. Ignoring my questions about dates to see each other but then saying he 'forgot' or purposefully misunderstanding the question.

When he ignores me I dont chase but will ask whether he's OK after 24 hours or so. I often go on to ask if he still wants to be with me, due to his behaviour. He always insists he wants to make it work, he loves me and wants to be with me. He always has 'mitigating' circumstances. I cant win. He makes me feel very insecure. His behaviour leaves me permanently confused and second guessing myself.

This behaviour is interspersed with him often being very loving when I see him, he will be caring and reassuring, hold me for hours etc. Which is what keeps me 'hooked', he knows this. Sometimes he will also phone a lot etc for a few weeks, especially if he has a problem, eg he was trying to set up a company and wanted my help. So I relax, feel close to him and think everything is good. Then he withdraws again.

I know know it sounds easy to 'dump' him. However the manipulation is very hard to get past, he only started it once I was in love with him and he knows I'm quite isolated and vulnerable. I'd rather he just dumped me than dragged me through this, but he won't, at least not until he's got a replacement, then he'll want the end of the relationship to be my fault.

Oh he also has some horrific life experiences which he knows make it very hard to leave him.

Thanks for reading, any advice gratefully received.

OP posts:
Bananalanacake · 23/08/2021 07:14

Don't let him move in with you.

Flakjacketon · 23/08/2021 07:24

You don't have to wait for him to end things with you - you have control here - you can end things.

It sounds like the only thing that you are getting out of this 'relationship' is heartache and he doesn't sound like a very nice man.

Walk away and find peace. 💐

JourneyToThePlacentaOfTheEarth · 23/08/2021 07:44

Dump him and block him, you deserve better and you know you do.

ArseNelbow · 23/08/2021 07:55

How do you know any of what he says is true? If you've never met his family or friends you can't verify any of this.

PerseverancePays · 23/08/2021 07:55

Could you gradually reduce seeing him and do some work on your boundaries? He’s not a good man and it’s messing with your well being and self esteem. Why should you be his ‘girlfriend in a box’ for him to get out and admire when he feels like? You’re a real life person who deserves a real life relationship and that includes friends and family.

physicskate · 23/08/2021 08:04

So the first year was good? The second year bad. Half your relationship has been bad. Half the time. It's unlikely to get better going forward because you're putting in all the effort.

What do you actually get from this? Emotional support? Financial support and security? Love? Respect and trust? Anything at all other than drama, heartache and distraction?

romdowa · 23/08/2021 08:06

You need to put yourself and your well being first here. Read up and setting and maintaining healthy boundaries, work on yourself and making you feel better about yourself and then you'll be strong enough to tell this guy to get lost. He sounds like an asshole but until you stop feeling sorry for him with his "problems" then you won't have the strength to not care.

MrsMoastyToasty · 23/08/2021 08:25

I don't think he is a single man. He is keeping people from his life in different areas so they don't talk and let something slip about your relationship.

ClaryFairchild · 23/08/2021 09:10

You don't need any reason other than "I don't want to be with you anymore" to dump him. Honestly, why are you hanging around letting him to treat you so badly, waiting for him to dump you?

Babdoc · 23/08/2021 09:17

The longer you stay with this man, the more your self esteem and confidence will be eroded, until you think you deserve nothing better. He is manipulating you.
Take control, OP. Dump and block.
Take some time alone to work on your boundaries and decide what you actually want in a man, as opposed to how much shit you are willing to tolerate.
Then reset your bar considerably higher. You are limbo dancing with this current chap. There are better ones out there. Good luck!

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 23/08/2021 09:26

Oh he also has some horrific life experiences which he knows make it very hard to leave him

Women are not rehab centres for broken men.

Unless you are the person who created these horrific experiences, you have zero obligation to keep allowing him to treat you like shit to make himself feel better.

His push-pull behaviour is designed to keep you off balance and needy.

Your only option here is to dump, block, and go completely no contact. Treat it like an addiction (and in fact the push-pull is creating an addiction with the intense dopamine rush when he's loving, followed by the intense comedown when he then withholds.) You must erase him from your life in order to heal.

Do any of your friends or family know the full picture of how he treats you?

Alternista · 23/08/2021 09:43

You’re giving him all the control here.

I suggest YOU withdraw for a bit, not as a game play but to work on yourself. Spend some time thinking hard about what makes you happy in life outside of this relationship and then really invest in doing those things.

Make yourself happy as an individual and then see whether this relationship fits you.

Bundaberg84 · 23/08/2021 10:23

Sounds like you're dating my ex. Classical narcissistic behaviour. Believe me, it will only get worse. Please, please do yourself a favour and leave. I know it's hard, but it will be harder the longer you will stay in that "relationship". And also trust me, you're not the only one he's seeing.

Regularsizedrudy · 23/08/2021 10:45

Uhh just dump him? Come on, you know this.

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