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Am I being unreasonable?

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Carparknas · 21/08/2021 20:51

Exclusively together since January, seeing each other since November. Both mid/late 30s. From day one both said we were looking for something serious and wanted marriage ultimately.

We’ve slowly gone from one day/night a week to up to 3 nights a week together. We live far enough apart for one night to be ok but a bit of a trek. But more than that it’s that one night a week just doesn’t progress a relationship into a more serious realm as we both said we wanted.

Anyway… said we love each other. The issue is that most weeks we have a big discussion about which nights we can do. Im pretty much always flexible as I can work from home or his place, which I’ve done plenty of times. He is very difficult (in my view) about committing to 3 nights a week even when I leave it to him to say when is best around his work. This has started to frustrate me as sometimes we only have a night together as things just aren’t organised and I’m left thinking at this age what are we doing spending less than 24 hours together a week if we both want something serious?

I’ve raised it with him directly and he just says work is unpredictable for him and he likes to ensure i stay on nights he is likely to be home at a reasonable time. I’ve explained that I would rather we just saw each other at some point in the week than didn’t, even if that means a late evening together. I’ve also made the point that if we cant be around each other after a long day then it is going to be impossible to progress things as real life is long days at work unless we have an exclusively weekend based relationship.

So here we are again with him being ‘unable’ to commit to a few nights together next week. He’s said he will look at his work timetable and calendar and get back to me. We’ve spoken and text and so far no mention from him of having done this.

When (and if!) he brings up us next spending a night together, I intend to say that I’m happy to do that it I’m staying for a few nights (ie 2 or 3), but if he can’t commit to that then we are essentially dating as opposed to pursuing a developing relationship, in which case he can come to me one evening and we will get dinner and then both go home. I’m getting fed up of driving over for short periods and not feeling like things are developing. If he doesn’t want that and just wants me one night a week then it should be a date and he can start coming to me a bit and going out properly for the evening.

Is this fair of me to do this? Is it a reasonable perspective? I don’t want to be a dick to him but I am getting sick of being patient and carefully explaining to him that me driving over for a night and just relaxing at his is a long way for one evening and isn’t really a big investment for each other nearly a year down the line for two people mid/late 30s. I feel I need to take this action otherwise he will carry on being vague.

If he wants one night a week dates then let’s do that but he can start picking up the driving and we can swap a cosy night in for a formal date?! I don’t think he does any of this maliciously and we often do spend a few nights together but it’s always at my suggestion and always when I’ve explained why it’s a long way to go to him for a night and doesn’t equal a developing relationship…

OP posts:
Ifiahe · 21/08/2021 22:22

@Carparknas I’m in exactly the same boat..except mines just made it clear after 5yrs he’s not willing to move/live with me. I’d suggest doing what I didn’t and becoming busy to see how much you mean to him.
I’ve just backed off from mine and haven’t heard from him in 48hrs. Amazing

MiniTheMinx · 21/08/2021 22:24

Have you had to work really hard to get to where you are in your job? do you feel you have had to overcome adversity and knock backs to get to where you are? are you tenacious and determined as a person?

BreasticlesNotTesticles · 21/08/2021 22:26

What are you doing for his 40th? Are you fully involved with plans there?

Carparknas · 21/08/2021 22:29

He doesn’t want to do anything @BreasticlesNotTesticles

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HazyDaisy123456 · 21/08/2021 23:18

Definitely step back don’t be huffy be bright and breezy and definitely don’t give him an ultimatum. Say sorry I can’t do this or next weekend or tomorrow night (please don’t elaborate on why you are unavailable either). If he phones and you don’t pick up. Text after awhile and say sorry bit busy tonight catch up soon and make him wait for you to follow it up or let him phone you. Don’t whatever you do try and pin him down to Thursday to Sunday however much you may want to. It sounds a lot like he has cold feet and is maybe suddenly feeling a bit trapped. Give him some space and see what does or doesn’t happen next.

Take care OP

moofolk · 21/08/2021 23:35

Three nights a week is loads. That would really do my head in.

Why not stick to once a week and sometimes more, maybe a weekend night. Live your own lives and also have chance to miss each other?

It's not the same as living with someone. When you live together you can still have time alone but if you're just seeing each other it's more pressure to be consciously together when you are together.

Step back

FlowerArranger · 22/08/2021 05:42

[quote Carparknas]@MiniTheMinx more frustrated we are so happy together yet he wants to keep me at arms length a lot of the time! We are late 30s, he’s nearly 40 and said he was keen to settle down[/quote]
In what way are you happy together? Is there a true, deep connection?

Him saying that he is keen to settle down doesn't mean anything. He may just be saying it to keep you on board.

He seems emotionally unavailable and may have an avoidant attachment style. Or perhaps he just sees you as somewhat clingy and needy. Either way it looks like this relationship is unlikely to progress in the way you want, and you trying to force the pace isn't going to help.

But you've already realised this. By all means take a step back and see what happens, but be prepared for nothing much to happen. Flowers

gannett · 22/08/2021 08:03

I think what he does for work is relevant here.

When I first started dating DP he really struggled with the idea that my work was unpredictable. His job has very clearly delineated hours - he knows what time he starts, what time he ends, when he's not in work it doesn't impinge on his life at all.

Whereas, particularly when I was self-employed but still the case now, I rarely knew exactly how much work I'd have, how long it would take me to do, whether I'd be called on to do something at the last-minute because of rapidly changing events. It's the nature of both my industry and the actual work I do. And there's no clear boundary between work and non-work.

So because I didn't want to commit time to him and then have to flake out because of a last-minute deadline, or the thing I was covering overran unexpectedly, or I got a surprise commission for good money that I can't turn down, I ended up not committing much time and being very indecisive/passive about it all.

I'm not sure I have a solution because I suspect I'm still not very good at any of the above but we have been together a decade now so something worked. Probably an unspoken combination of me committing less definite time but resolving to be totally present when I did commit it (no checking emails, flaking out etc) - setting formal dates was part of this - and him accepting the nature of my job, especially after talking to my friends who are in the same industry and have similarly chaotic timetables, and realising it's what the job entails rather than a reflection of my feelings for him.

It helped when we moved in together weirdly.

Ifiahe · 22/08/2021 09:05

@gannett interesting your to read your reply.
Looks like me and my partner are at the end of the rd regarding logistics of work and an inability to be able to live together due to work. I’m SE and he’s very much set hrs and as you say non impacted once he’s finished.
I’m far more willing and adaptable but m conscious of how I need to be careful regarding the job I do yet he won’t compromise at all.very sad when you get on so well.

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