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So I applied for a copy of my mum’s will to see who she left her money to.

79 replies

CovidCorvid · 17/08/2021 18:29

Obviously I knew I was getting nothing and was curious.

Bit of background. She was a nasty narc. Physically and emotionally abusive to me and my brother. She and my dad divorced before she died, she was physically abusive to him before the divorce. He died soon after the divorce. I could write a book on the stuff she did to me. Overall very critical and interfering. Insisted on coming to my dad’s funeral even though she wasn’t welcome, told me I couldn’t stop her.

She was nasty about me and my brother to my (then) 11yo Dd and dd repeated what had been said. My brother called her (mum) out on it and she denied saying it. She said my dd was a liar and needed to be in a mental institution (I believe dd). My brother told her we were both sick of her behaviour and if she wanted a relationship with us we needed to sit down and have a talk and her behaviour needed to change. She flounced off and apart from the odd abusive letter we never heard from her again.

Six years later (end of last year) she died. I got a nasty letter from beyond the grave telling me how much she hated me, how she hopes dd will be as nasty to me as I was to her (I haven’t done anything apart from refuse to be abused any more). Letter said I was disinherited (I’d guessed as much)

So her estate was worth nearly half a million. I was curious as to who she has left money to…..I’d figured a neighbour who I knew had helped her out a bit and maybe the church.

She has split her estate into 20ths and given various people either one 20th or 2x 20ths. Mostly old family friends, so people I knew as a kid. But unless they got closer in the last six years (unlikely as geographically distant) some of them are people she’s seen about 3 or 4 times in the last 20 years and apart from exchanging Xmas cards with had no other contact.

This has pissed me off more than if she’d left all her money to the church/neighbour. I don’t know why as it would make no difference to me. I suppose I always wondered if she might leave some money to Dd or to my nephew but obviously not. Instead she left it to people she hardly knew who are wealthy baby boomers like her, but also in their 80s so effectively it’s their kids who she doesn’t know who will benefit.

I know I need to let it go. Ultimately losing my inheritance was worth the weight which has been lifted off my shoulders the last few years. I’m also pissed off as I’ve heard on the grapevine she’s spent the last few years telling all her friends and neighbours what a nasty, selfish Dd I was. In one of the letters she wrote me she said how I’d cut contact with her once she became to old to be of any use to me. The sad thing is she probably believed that….she had a weird ability to totally rewrite history and to believe her new version….a version where she was the innocent victim.

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Todayisontheup · 17/08/2021 19:44

Hi @pollylocketpickedapocket, your DM is in fact correct! I am an ex-IFA and I specialised in Inheritance planning etc. One of my customers successfully made a claim.

@CovidCorvid, if you feel inclined, I would seek legal advice about this as you may have a claim. But, I can understand if you would rather forget about her and the money.

Good luck either way.

gunnersgold · 17/08/2021 19:51

Sounds like my mil, always the victim!🙄

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 17/08/2021 20:02

Actually I think it was a good thing to do it. You were wondering about it and now you know the truth. You can deal with it and put it behind you. The letters from beyond the grave though. That is spectacularly upsetting. She sounds incredibly vendictive and at least you know now that nothing else can be done. There's no more hurtful surprises in store. At least you can talk to your DB and DSis about this. The other people you think she said stuff about you to as you say are all in their 80s and it really is all in the past now. I hope you do get someone good to talk to about this professionally. You may find you are grieving the mother you didn't have but wished you had. But in general the best answer to all this hideousness is to live your live as you want to and use her as an example of how not to behave. She could have had your love and respect and it was her choice not to. Just makes you wonder what kind of a number her mother did on her. I hope you can put this behind you when you are ready and at least know that its over.

CovidCorvid · 17/08/2021 20:03

@thecognoscenti

You haven't lost 'your inheritance' though.
Yes, sorry that was probably badly worded. I know that nobody (in England) is entitled to an inheritance. I suppose I just meant that previously to that last final fall out there was a different will which did leave the money to me. Obviously it could all have gone on care home fees if she'd lived longer... Or cruises!

I don't think I'm entitled to fight the will. She's allowed to disinherit me if she chooses. I can't argue I was dependent on her nor am I in Scotland. Personally I wouldn't want the money but yes it would have been nice for dd and dn.

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Marmitemarinaded · 17/08/2021 20:03

@aerosocks

Have you considered photocopying the abusive 'from beyond the grave' letter and sending a copy of it to every single one of the beneficiaries, and anyone else you can think of?

The money's gone but at least if you did that, it would open their eyes to the sort of person she really was.

Completely disregard this nonsense advice
CovidCorvid · 17/08/2021 20:04

I think I was also curious as to whether I was mentioned in the will, not to inherit anything but more as to whether there was any further nastiness..... Picking at that scab for sure.

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SoundBar · 17/08/2021 20:20

I am so sorry OP. What a horrible experience you have been through. Do whatever you want or need to do for yourself, to get through this. You deserve to be happy.

beastlyslumber · 17/08/2021 20:21

I get why you did that. At least you know now, or have confirmation of what you already knew.

In a way, it's a gift not to have the money. All ties between you are cut, even financial ones.

Agree that counselling might help, but look around for someone who understands narcissistic abuse, so they don't do you any more harm.

CovidCorvid · 17/08/2021 20:26

Does anyone know something…..?

Will the beneficiaries get a copy of the will and see the whole thing? Or will they just be contacted by the executor and be told you’ve inherited x amount, here’s a cheque/bank transfer.

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ChipButties · 17/08/2021 20:35

I have no advice, just wanted to say I’m sorry. This all sounds so tough for you. Maybe getting some support would be a good idea? Xx

ChipButties · 17/08/2021 20:36

And yes, beneficiary’s can see the whole will and who gets what of the estate.

Thehouseofmarvels · 17/08/2021 20:51

It must be so irritating for parents in Scotland who are in your mother's position. I can imagine if she had lived in Scotland she would have been livid about the fact that children are entitled to one third of movable goods. I suppose parents their who do not get on with their children give away all their movable goods nice and early to stop their kids getting hold of them !

Mandalay246 · 17/08/2021 20:56

Have you considered photocopying the abusive 'from beyond the grave' letter and sending a copy of it to every single one of the beneficiaries, and anyone else you can think of?

That's really going to hurt a dead person isn't it Hmm

OP, you need to let this go, and if you can't then try counselling. The past can't be changed.

TheSilveryPussycat · 17/08/2021 21:07

I would have done the same. I would rather know than be wondering. In fact, for me, the wondering would be part of the wound, and the knowledge would help it scab over.

buckeejit · 17/08/2021 21:20

OP, I'm so sorry for your loss, both of the mother you should have had & the one that you had. She must have had some issues in her life to make her the way she was.

I would definitely have wanted to see the will. I'd want to know for better or worse.

Definitely consider counselling if it is an option. It's a lot to process& you'll still be grieving even though it was a complex relationship.

I'd consider contesting the will actually as you've said the beneficiaries don't need it, (maybe apart from neighbour who did stuff for her). I don't think you should feel guilty if you decide to. Even if it's to redirect the money to a charity. Not saying this is the best thing to do, I just think if it were me I wouldn't dismiss it without thinking it through, especially if your aversion is due to being seen as litigious & you've no meaningful relationship with any of the beneficiaries

Mantlemoose · 17/08/2021 21:26

@CovidCorvid

Does anyone know something…..?

Will the beneficiaries get a copy of the will and see the whole thing? Or will they just be contacted by the executor and be told you’ve inherited x amount, here’s a cheque/bank transfer.

It is up to the Executors whether they provide recipients with a copy of the will. Honestly you're better off without the money, as are the DC.
CupoTeap · 17/08/2021 21:38

@CovidCorvid I think it's natural, just as there was a tiny hope they letter could have been her turning point, it's the same for the will. You had a part of you that hoped she'd changed and unfortunately she didn't. Death of any parent is hard. Give yourself time.

ravenmum · 17/08/2021 21:41

Do you not think that she deliberately chose people she hardly knew, in the hope you'd find out and be hurt that you were valued lower than them? I doubt the beneficiaries appreciate/would appreciate her using them to make a spiteful point and mixing them up in her dirty laundry, however pleased they are with the cash.

magicstar1 · 17/08/2021 21:50

I remember you posting at the time you received the letter, worrying about whether it’d be good to open it. She just keeps hurting you and you need to put it behind you and forget about the inheritance... it’s not worth your time and energy.

CovidCorvid · 17/08/2021 21:52

@ravenmum

Do you not think that she deliberately chose people she hardly knew, in the hope you'd find out and be hurt that you were valued lower than them? I doubt the beneficiaries appreciate/would appreciate her using them to make a spiteful point and mixing them up in her dirty laundry, however pleased they are with the cash.
That’s crossed my mind.
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Lolabray · 17/08/2021 21:59

I suppose you have the right to be curious as. Her next of kin. writing those letters weren’t necessary and actually shows she was quite bitter

Longdistance · 17/08/2021 22:03

I’d be burning that letter over her grave or adding it to her ashes.

Alwayscheerful · 17/08/2021 22:03

She did it to spite you.

Don't let it hurt or upset you.
You have been set free.

Brollypackedforscottishholiday · 17/08/2021 22:03

My bloody awful aunt died and left her 300k house and family heirlooms to her carer and her carer's dd..
Because I wouldn't go for Xmas one year... My dd was due Xmas eve and she lived 50 miles away.
Made me glad I hadn't bothered so much with her tbh.

Mandalay246 · 17/08/2021 23:21

Made me glad I hadn't bothered so much with her tbh.

And that was reflected in her will. Honestly, the entitled attitude of some people on here. You weren't her child, why should she leave anything to you?

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