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75% hate him 25% love him. After 15 years. Help to clarify feelings please.

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jazzyclouds · 15/08/2021 18:51

I'm so conflicted about my long term relationship and have been for a few months.

We've been together for 15 years. I have DD from a previous relationship and we have DS 11. There has been external factors like his family major illnesses, COVID pandemic, job worries. But I always loved him and knew deep down he loved me. Until this year.

I feel completely out of love with him and gritting my teeth and like it's unbearable to stay quite a lot of the time. But when for example we went for a 3 day break together recently or we have sex or cuddle, I do feel love.

Cons -

He speaks to me with contempt A LOT. Sometimes sneering or snappy. He is not kind to me at all. It's never outright 'abuse' if you see what I mean, but it's the sort of way of talking or tone that if your friend spoke to you like that then you wouldn't be friends with them. He is dismissive. I stand up to him and he turns it on me, rarely admits it, there's always an excuse why he can speak to me like that in his eyes. He's exactly the same way with his mother. This only started (with me) about 2-4 years ago and just gets worse to the point I can't stand it.
Even the Kids comment on how he speaks to me.

He is less responsible with money etc than me. I have to do more of the drudgery than him.

He has always been controlling over our son. Used to threaten if we split he'd take him but recent years he hasn't. But he still acts like he is the only parent, tries to make unilateral decisions.

He won't communicate. You'll never really get anything out of him or any resolution to arguments. This has been since the start.

He has grown a boorish and OTT inflexible side as he ages and I find myself rolling my eyes a lot as he holds forth his opinions. The DC are embarrassed by some of his opinions.

Pros -

He makes me laugh at times.

He is still affectionate towards me ,(not just sexual) when we are alone, in bed, watching TV etc. It's such a difference from how he actually speaks to me. Sex still happens. Still attraction.

We share the same hobbies and do quite a lot together.

I know he loves me in his own way, but it's not proper love where I'm valued and he's kind.

I just cannot take the contemptuous way he speaks to me and dismisses most of what I say anymore.

I also resent him because I feel trapped cause of DS. I work more hours and anti social hours than him and this can't be changed (low paid work not qualified for anything else), so he would have a claim to being main carer and he has a big family home his parents nearby, it's possible he'd get 50/50 (spoke to solicitor who said 50/50 likely outcome after fighting in court) and he would demand more, so I feel like I cannot split even if I wanted to. I love and am close to my DS there's no way I feel I can start the battle that would be even trying to get 50/50 if we split. We don't earn much and he'd 'deign' to allow him to come to mine 2 days a week or something and I'd have to fight in court. So I stay.

He won't change. I know that enough by now. I'm only mid 30s still (he's mid 40s) and I feel like I'm wasting my life.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 15/08/2021 19:32

If your daughter or son as an adult described this relationship to you what would you advise them to do?. I dare say you would not advise them to stay.

Your pros list is very weak and none of those are any reason, let alone basis, to stay with such a man. Your cons list is far more weighty and gives more compelling reasons to divorce him. And how did you arrive at 75/25 figures anyway?.

You are not trapped and you cannot use your DS as a reason to stay with him either. He is also being influenced here by his dad under your very nose as is your daughter, you want them to grow up thinking that the ways his dad treats you is right?. No you do not.

I would also consult another firm of solicitors rather than the wishy washy person you spoke to previously. You’re also dealing with a controlling man here and therefore he is abusive. Men like your H can and do throw around 50/50 as a way of punishing their woman further for having the gall in their eyes all to leave him, this all perfect specimen in his head. He’s not bothered about these children at all, they’re all bit part players like you with he being at the centre of his own universe.

Seek further legal advice and gather as much financial info as possible.
Would also suggest you contact both Women’s aid and the Rights of Women organisations too.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 15/08/2021 19:33

Men like this too hate women, all of them and in particular his mother. I am not surprised she is treated with such disdain also, he blames her for an awful lot.

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