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Confused about ex and new man

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OhWhatAmIDoing · 08/08/2021 12:23

Hi all, this might be long but it keeps me awake at night and I have nobody to talk to.

In December last year I split with my fiance (together 4.5 years), we have a little boy together who was 18 months at the time. It was a straw that broke the camels back situation.
A few example of his behaviour :
Whenever I told him something he said had upset me, he would say I took it the wrong way and would never apologise.
We were in Athens on holiday and I felt uncomfortable going to the bar so asked him to, he said no, he said I couldn't live my life like that and he forced me to go. Fwiw he was totally comfortable going, but he made me. I was nearly in tears.
I broke my wrist on a night out in a town 30 mins from where we lived. I couldn't drive my car back so I rang him to come and collect me. He kicked off, it was a Sunday and he really didn't want to have to drive that day? We had a huge row in the car as I said if roles were reversed I would have been there for him.
He couldn't ever just do something without expecting something in return so if he was going to load the dishwasher, he would be like "well you can empty the bins then come on do it now".
He used to shout when we argued when there was no need. I used to beg him not to shout as he may wake the baby but he still would.
He would namecall in arguments say i was pathetic etc.
So I left in December and found somewhere to live, we share our child 50/50. He is a great dad.

Few weeks after we split someone in work said they had always fancied me etc, we started spending more time together and are in a relationship. Things progressed quickly, he is kind, wouldn't hurt a fly, will do anything for me, nothing is too much trouble. He will clean my whole house if I'm working late so I don't come back to mess, will pop to shops etc if we need something quickly which I know sounds trivial but my ex would never do small things like that. He is great but before me he was basically a recluse for 10 years, never went out or had girlfriends. I feel very love bombed by him it's quite suffocating sometimes. His whole life now revolves around me, he doesn't have many friends or hobbies. He doesn't have stories or experiences to share or talk about so our conversation is running a bit dry. When I tell him about something such as oh I went on holiday to x place blah blah he's like... Wow I've never been on holiday. I guess I find it weird a 33yr old man has never been on holiday, eaten at a resteraunt etc. We ended up basically living together but I have now told him he needs to spend a few nights at week at his own house so I can have my space.

I'm starting to wonder if my ex and I should have attended counseling to work through our problems. We had a lovely life together, owned a house (which he kept), the most beautiful child, his family are amazing and I felt close to them as I'm not close to my own. We had a good social circle but also a healthy amount of alone time with our own friends and hobbies. He is the funniest person I know and always supported me in whatever I wanted to do. We shared all household money and were a proper family unit. I guess I'm seeing all the good stuff now, but feel like I am having a delayed reaction to our separation and lie awake at night thinking I've done the wrong thing and should have tried harder. I feel like I'm living a double life, one week as mum and the next as well, I don't even know because I feel lost on those days.

Has anyone ever got back with their ex in a similar situation and had counselling to help communication issues etc?

Thank you for reading.

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WillowGrand · 08/08/2021 12:25

I think you should be alone for a while

OhWhatAmIDoing · 08/08/2021 12:27

@WillowGrand yes I agree, I mean after some alone time and time to think and be by myself...can people ever reconcile

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TheFoundations · 08/08/2021 12:29

Your ex didn't make you happy so you broke up.

Your current bloke doesn't make you happy so you need to break up.

Why is it a choice between the two of them? There's a whole world of experiences out there, and having relationships is just one.

Do things that make you feel good. It's 'Adulting 101'.

Fullofglee · 08/08/2021 12:36

Tbh why on earth were you incapable of going to the bar that would annoy me your a grown woman. I think there's afew things maybe missing here and it would be interesting to see his side of things its not as clear cut as your describing. When you broke your wrist night out did he have to come out with your ds and change his plans? In terms of the cleaning if he's doing something then you should realistically be helping aswell.

baileys6904 · 08/08/2021 12:41

Whatever you do, please be mindful about your child in this. Having someone basically move in, less than 8 months after their dad moved out is unsettling and unfair to them, especially as they are now being asked to spend time away too

GentlemanJay · 08/08/2021 12:43

@TheFoundations

Your ex didn't make you happy so you broke up.

Your current bloke doesn't make you happy so you need to break up.

Why is it a choice between the two of them? There's a whole world of experiences out there, and having relationships is just one.

Do things that make you feel good. It's 'Adulting 101'.

This. Last relationship is done.

This relationship will not have legs. You've spotted the issues already.

category12 · 08/08/2021 12:44

He used to shout at you not caring about the effect on your child (or you), he verbally abused you and everything is transactional with him. That's not a relationship problem, that's a him problem. Relationship counselling wouldn't help with that.

Your present bloke may not be right for you, but your ex was not either.

Don't overlook those awful behaviours that broke you up. You have a good amicable co-parenting relationship now, don't spoil it by trying to get back together.

OhWhatAmIDoing · 08/08/2021 12:49

I broke my wrist before we had a child, there was no change of plans for him, he didn't have any other plans that day.
My boyfriend is here mostly when my son is not, he will come after he has gone to bed etc and we work different hours.
The bar, I was 25 weeks pregnant had been walking round all day, we had a table outside and I asked would he mind going to bar as I didn't really want to walk inside by myself, yes I am grown woman but it's the fact he wouldn't have actually minded going in but making a big deal of it iyswim.
For clarity I know it's not a simple choice between the two and I know I need some time alone, but I mean eventually after some time has passed.

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category12 · 08/08/2021 12:54

Again, the things you describe were not relationship problems, they were him problems. Has he actually any interest in working on his issues and behaviours?

TheFoundations · 08/08/2021 12:56

For clarity I know it's not a simple choice between the two and I know I need some time alone, but I mean eventually after some time has passed

So what you're asking is 'Once I've been single for a bit, should I go back to a man who made me unhappy, was verbally abusive, and shouted at me even when our child could hear?'

Why are you considering going back to this man? Is this what you want from your partner? Or do you need him to change before you can be with him? If you need him to change, it's not him you want; it's an idealised version of him that exists only in your head. A fantasy him. That person doesn't exist, and if you think you can create him... well, can you see the thinking error you're making, there?

SilverRoe · 08/08/2021 12:58

I think you’re missing things in your ex that your current boyfriend is highlighting- but that doesn’t negate the good reasons you split up with your ex. It’s quite common to split up from someone and go for another person who seems to show the opposite traits - but you’ve gone from one extreme to the other. You had a disengaged partner who wasn’t prepared to do anything nice for you and now you’ve got a smothering boyfriend who is going over the top to do ‘nice’ things.

What you really need is a happy medium! Someone who will be attentive and kind but also has their own life and isn’t trying to latch onto yours with this intensity. And you can find that person!

But you won’t find him if you swing back and forth like a pendulum between these two types of men.

atlastifoundit · 08/08/2021 13:04

Out of the frying pan, into the fire.

Don't jump out of the fire and back into the frying pan again.

Doyoumind · 08/08/2021 13:08

You ex was horrible. Your current partner isn't right. Be alone for a while. It's really not so bad. Plan to meet someone who is right for you rather than making do with an ex who was a dick.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 08/08/2021 13:11

Agree with everyone else (and yourself) that you need to be single for a while and enjoy that.

Your ex sounds like a selfish arse and your current DP sounds like a wet blanket.

Why are your standards so low? Some counselling (for yourself) might be a good idea to help you work out your boundaries.

OhWhatAmIDoing · 08/08/2021 13:14

I have some counselling booked for September which will hopefully help

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 08/08/2021 13:17

Good for you! I hope you find it useful.

QuentinBunbury · 08/08/2021 13:20

I think they both sound abusive in different ways - your ex was obviously verbally and emotionally abusive (not picking you up when you broke your wrist is cruel). Your current partner smothers you and over time this could become isolating and controlling.
I think you need to talk to a counsellor about what a healthy relationship looks like because you don't seem to know.

FirstCupOfTeaOfTheDayIsBliss · 08/08/2021 13:36

These situations are never simple and are more nuanced than a post on a forum is ever going to show..

Yes, your ex clearly behaved badly on some occasions but if you were asking him to go to the bar for you because you didn't want to, I can imagine that that would get pretty frustrating and tiring after a while. How many other completely normal things did you expect him to do that you were completely capable of doing yourself? It was cruel him not picking you up when you broke your wrist but maybe by that point he was unable to separate the genuine need requests from the I just don't want to do this requests and they all just felt like demands on him. Not an excuse - he still should have done it but when you can't see the wood for the trees, we'll you can't see the wood for the trees.

As for this new man, well, this is the reality of someone who would do anything for you and is always at your beck and call - it is suffocating! It's why adults need to be independent and do things for themselves.

FirstCupOfTeaOfTheDayIsBliss · 08/08/2021 13:38

I would find someone cleaning house for me if I were working late to be very intrusive.

Helping out of kindness is one thing but that's too much.

Catlover1970 · 08/08/2021 16:36

You need time alone. As you are not completely happy with your rebound relationship you are looking at your ex with rose coloured specs. Remember you left him for a reason !

category12 · 08/08/2021 17:24

You might also benefit from doing the Freedom Programme.

mewkins · 08/08/2021 17:31

Your email sounds like an arsehole. Sure he had good points and you had a nice life together and I'm sure it be easy to slot back into it. But don't. Remember (and maybe write down, so you don't forget) the bad bits. Then get rid of the guy you are with. Neither of them sounds great relationship material and in time you can date some of the millions of other memory there.

Standrewsschool · 08/08/2021 17:41

You left your ex for a reason. He may be a good dad. Doesn’t make him a good partner. He belittled you and made you feel small.

Your new partner doesn’t sound right either. As you say, he is suffocating you, and relying on you. Also, the fact that you are thinking about your ex means you know in your own mind that this relationship isn’t right either.

You need someone inbetween, someone who cares and supports you, but still allows you to be you.

HyggeandTea · 08/08/2021 17:44

Very easy to look back with rose-tinted glasses, there were good times else you wouldn't have lasted for so long, doesn't mean it would have worked though and I get the suffocating feeling of an over-attentive man. I completely understand and it sounds like neither relationship is right.

Time for you and your son now, no hurry for another relationship. Enjoy your own company and spend time with friends. There is no need to make further life-changing decisions.

Worth making a list of what is bad and good in both relationships to refer to. It can help focus your mind x

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