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Should I tell or leave alone?

36 replies

something2say · 08/08/2021 08:38

Hi,

I'm new to an area, enjoying socialising and making friends.

Made friends with some guitar players in the pub, we meet and play, send songs on whatsapp etc. They all know each other better than I as I'm new.

There was a couple who have split up, a year back. He cheated and generally hadn't treated her well. He's the main player I play with.

She has moved up the road from me and I've been seeing her a lot more. I really like her. She is the better friend.

The other week I was playing at the pub with the man and friends. A lady in the group had too much to drink. Too drunk to stand, sitting on pavement etc. I was walking back but the chap took my guitar and gave the drunk lady a lift.

Turns out they slept together. She has kept a low profile since. The ex, my new friend, on asking me why her exes car is outside my house, I say he dropped my guitar back and gave some info about the night. I didn't want her feeling bad and left out. I told her he dropped the lady back, she says oh they'll have slept together then, I say no don't be paranoid etc. Others say don't be paranoid.

The lady is denying it. Shes told our friend it definitely didn't happen. The end.

Until Friday night when I see the chap and ask him, say look your name's been coming up, people think you slept with that lady. And he did!!!

I got defensiveness, who cares, its none of your business and worst, I'll say I didnt then, if it makes you feel better. So a clear admission, and he sees nothing wrong with it. Its been a year etc. I say yes but they are friends.

So now I don't know what to do. On the one hand, I am too involved anyway. I've tried to be friends with both. He was my guitar playing friend first, but I like her better. I am going to phase him out. He hurts her and doesn't care. And he's not that great to me.

But I'm complicit in a lie now. I am complicit in an overly drunk friend making an huge mistake. She'll be alone with that regret. I'll be looking at my new friend and lying in her face. Hiding information. I'll be helping people make her the paranoid one when she was right. I hate that. Blame the woman and be happy with it. I hate that.

He won't care if she knows. So that's not a problem.

But the lady who did it is a nice lady, I like her. What of our friendship now?

And I am too involved anyway, the man told me off. I said hey look, I like your ex and I don't want her feeling shit just because you dropped my guitar back round. But now I'm continuing my involvement in other people's business. And not to do so would curtail the burgeoning friendship. If it comes out in the future and I knew and didn't say....?

What would you do?

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SarahBellam · 08/08/2021 08:47

They’re both single. What’s the big deal?

CrazyNeighbour · 08/08/2021 08:51

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hahahayoumustbejoking · 08/08/2021 08:51

Not your place to ask him anything. Stop shoe horning yourself into the situation.

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DinosaurDiana · 08/08/2021 08:52

Just walk away from it.

bobandhisburgers · 08/08/2021 08:53

It's nothing to do with you so why are you stirring things up!

They aren't together now. She already knows he cheated on her. It doesn't matter anymore as they aren't together. Why would you want to upset your friend more by adding to this fire?

Hawkins001 · 08/08/2021 08:55

Keep the friendship of the person you prefer.

something2say · 08/08/2021 08:55

Ok leave it then. It's just a shit thing to know about my new friend without her knowing. I appreciate your views.

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QueefofSheena · 08/08/2021 08:57

She was that drunk that she couldn’t walk and yet ‘slept’ with him. He sounds like a sleaze at very best.

something2say · 08/08/2021 09:02

That is another angle yes.

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Fatherliamdeliverance · 08/08/2021 09:12

Aren't they split up? So it doesn't matter. You don't need to report back to her.

One thing I would take from this though is that when she initially said 'he slept with her then', it was a bit harsh to go in calling her paranoid. Yes, they're split up now but his cheating will have affected her. I get that you didn't know at that point but you should have just stayed neutral and said 'i wouldn't know' or something.

In short, keep a step back from all of this. The situation with this ex couple has been going on long since before you were in the picture.

Marmitemarinaded · 08/08/2021 09:17

Wtf?

Op they split a year ago.

You’re going to get a name for your self (probs my correctly on the basis of this) for stirring up drama

Marmitemarinaded · 08/08/2021 09:18

@something2say

Ok leave it then. It's just a shit thing to know about my new friend without her knowing. I appreciate your views.
A year ago Op I doubt she gives a shit
WorkHardPlayHard1 · 08/08/2021 09:22

The man clearly took advantage of the drunk woman who wasn't capable of making a sober decision. He did that. The woman feels guilty for herself and for her friend and is denying it (she made a mistake).
You need to get the friend to tell her she was taken advantage of and they can bond over what a shit he is. Case closed xx

GroggyLegs · 08/08/2021 09:23

How is 'Paul's confirmed he did sleep with Julie, even though she said they didn't' going to help anyone?

Let it lie.

Bluntness100 · 08/08/2021 09:24

Wtf, they are both single. He can have sex with who he pleases, I really don’t get yout angst and making it a big deal. You do understand why people are single they are free to pursue other relationships?

You’re being really very weird about it and making it an issue.

Are you jealous? Do you like him?

sammylady37 · 08/08/2021 09:26

Why are you inserting yourself into this when it has nothing to do with you? Mind your own business!

OldTinHat · 08/08/2021 09:27

They've split up, both single, who cares about who shags who?

LunaHardy · 08/08/2021 09:29

More concerning he slept with someone who was too drunk to stand up. That's rape if she couldn't consent. The rest is irrelevant.

Sampafie · 08/08/2021 09:33

You clearly seem to be enjoying the drama. How juvenile.

Bluntness100 · 08/08/2021 09:33

Have you a crush on him? It’s very weird to ask him who he had sex with and rhen be pissed off about it like you are. And you’re making a really big deal of it. You even want to end the friendship The only time I’ve ever seen someone react like that is if they’ve a crush.

You’ve not reacted normally.

The normal reaction would be to have said just laughed or shrugged when the ex said oh they’d habe slept together, not immediately ask him when you saw him then get annoyed he did.

You don’t seem remotely concerned she was maybe too drunk to consent, although clearly that’s not a given. Many people have drunken one night stands, as long as she was fit to consent it’s fine. It’s absolutely none of your business

The only explanation is either you’re a real busy body and drama queen or you have a real crush on this man ans are upset he had sex with someone.

Fatherliamdeliverance · 08/08/2021 09:34

Urgh, read it wrong and thought the OP meant her male friend and the woman had slept together previously and he'd just helped her get home this time. He's grim. Sleeping with a woman too drunk to stand, when he's sober, is really bad behaviour. I'd definitely distance myself from this individual, OP.

EATmum · 08/08/2021 09:35

Maybe buy him a copy of Promising Young Woman. He sounds like a creep.

girlmom21 · 08/08/2021 09:37

They split up a year ago. It's not her business, your business or anyone else's.

ittakes2 · 08/08/2021 09:41

I think you asked him a question if he slept with her and then did not like the answer. Going forward best to not get that involved. I would just leave it - you have the lady saying it didn't happen and the man saying it did happen. If your new friend finds out later you can just say you believed the lady and not the man and didn't want to cause trouble but if you had of known for sure (ie if both had said it happened) you would have told her.