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Worried about depressed/suicidal Dd . Need advice.

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DepressedDD · 30/07/2021 22:49

She’s 21yo lives at home, uni student at local uni. She’s been very down on and off for a couple of years, before lock down. She has had some awful things happen to her.

Had a bf in sixth form who she says was physically abusive to her. She was also raped at a uni party before covid. She says the GP has diagnosed her with ptsd and disassociation disorder. She isn’t on any medication, says she doesn’t want to take anything, don’t know if the dr has recommended it or not.

I feel like I’m walking on eggshells with her all the time. I’m worried sick about her and just don’t know how to make things right or if they can be. We’ve paid for private counselling before which I’d thought had helped, I’ve offered to pay again but she hasn’t taken me up on it.

This might sound horrible and I really don’t mean it to but I do sometimes think that maybe she has a bit of a victim mentality and unintentionally makes mountains out of molehills/sees the worst in people/situations. I get that could be down to her mental health.

Like the boyfriend who she said was physically abusive in sixth form. The story started off he pushed her away when they had an arguement and now you’d think she’d been beaten for months the way she talks. She started dating a boy a few months ago, then there was some sort of argument, she ran out the house, he ran out the house after her as he was worried about her and she started screaming that he was making her feel unsafe, etc. So then went into a downward spiral about how abusive he was. His friends tried to explain he was just worried about her (it was 2am) so now she reckons they’re just as bad and has cut them all off.

Then she went in a date with a lad she knew at work. He said thanks, but didn’t want to see her for a second date….as happens. She was sobbing for days saying she had trusted him not to be like this, she’d known him for months and didn’t think he’d be like everyone else. 🤷‍♀️

She frequently tells me I’m abusive and that I shout at her “all the time”.

So she’s seemed ok for the last few days. Was excitedly making plans for next academic year last night, telling me about stuff. Went out to work this morning and came back snappy and moody (she can be terrible). Walked through the door into a full rant at me about how I needed to,cook her some lunch, that I neglect her, etc. I was just going out to work and said I didn’t have time to cook but leftovers in the fridge, etc. She carried on ranting about how there’s no food in the house for her (not true, there loads) and I admit I was snappy back at her when I said there was plenty of food . She immediately kicked off that I was being a nasty fucking bitch and shouting at her. I hadn’t shouted but had been firm/emphasising my words.

I went to work. Came home. She seemed better, we watched a bit of tv together. She was talking about plans for holidays with a friend next year.

Just came downstairs to find her standing in the kitchen crying. She says she wants to kill herself, she’s sick of living, if she had pills she would do it, etc. She refuses to talk to the GP. I asked her what’s wrong. She says nobody cares about her, I don’t care about her, she just feels numb about life, even when she’s with her friends that she feels nothing (she had been laughing and joking earlier). She says I’m Abusive and shout all the time. That this isn’t a normal family set up and it’s toxic (just me and her dad here and we get along fine). She says she was going to move out and not tell me but now thinks she might kill herself instead. Or she might not kill herself but might just leave and cut me off. She’s frequently said when she leaves home she will never see me or dh again.

I’m not trying to make it about me but sometimes I feel she’s emotionally abusive to me. She can be vile the way she talks to us. I let her talk to me like shit most of the time because I’m scared of her reaction if I pull her up on it. But she’s like it briefly and then she’s fine again.

We have bent over backwards to get her stuff she wants, I know material things don’t buy mental health but she’s wanted for nothing. She’s had a stable upbringing. Me and dh aren’t exactly The Waltons, we get on fine but we’re not a lovely dovey couple and in the past she’s commented on that saying we’re fucked up. But we’re both quite happy. 🤷‍♀️

I just don’t know what to do….I’m worried. Can’t do anything. She’s self harmed in the last. She’s taken a very small overdose before. She said last week she thinks she has an eating disorder and is making herself sick. She won’t go and see the gp, won’t take medication and seems to hate me.

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DepressedDD · 01/08/2021 09:55

I’d say she’s quite immature for her age.

Not sure she has time to join any political organisations, etc….she’s doing a full on, stressful degree (which I don’t think helps and I did drop hints after first year to swap to something easier). Then works part time.

She’s worried about meds turning her into a zombie and also potentially making her fat.

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category12 · 01/08/2021 10:06

I think that sometimes trauma symptoms can manifest like BPD.

If she's been through rape, I would look at trying to get her EMDR therapy and dealing with potential PTSD before anything else. (There's a book called "Drop the Disorder" about the prevalence of women being diagnosed with personality disorders after trauma.)

DepressedDD · 01/08/2021 11:18

She's had cbt and emdr

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thesootherfairy · 01/08/2021 11:22

She's suffering from PTSD. 20 counselling sessions won't be enough after abuse from boyfriend and rape.

Lots of others posting about BDP. Don't go there. She wasn't showing any signs prior to assault and abuse. The symptoms and behaviours are PTSD and trauma. Depression if severe enough can cause hallucinations so can severe anxiety.

Medication could lift her out of this hole just enough to restart therapy.

She sounds traumatised and severely depressed.

I feel for you having to bear the brunt of this. Must be very hard.

To avoid years of waiting for nhs. Go private.

If you are near one of the priory hospitals, they do specialist PTSD treatment. (Out patient).

She's so young. With the right help, she can get back on track. The wrong help is worse than no help.

I think her perception is so skewed due to trauma that everything feels loud to her which is why she thinks you're screaming and yelling when in fact you're not.

To get her to accept help is the struggle here. Could you make an appointment with the GP to discuss how you can approach her in a way which is constructive? Whilst the GP can't discuss her medical records, they can help give you advice as to how to get to the point where she will accept help.
If she doesn't get proper help for PTSD, it will never go away. It doesn't resolve on its own or over time. It just gets worse.

There are also charities such as rape crisis who may be able to provide you with advice on how to get her to accept help.

Yes she is an adult and yes she sounds irrational but this is a symptom of PTSD.
She's not doing well. She may need to hear that she deserves help and she deserves to feel happy and she deserves a good life.

DepressedDD · 01/08/2021 20:01

@thesootherfairy thank you. What you say makes sense. It’s so hard to know what to do….I don’t want her given a label if it’s not right. I don’t want her having the wrong treatment/help. More counselling sessions and hopefully medication I think is the way forward.

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DepressedDD · 01/08/2021 20:04

I’ve just looked at the Priory locations and nothing anywhere near us. They do residential courses which I don’t think she’d agree to but also online stuff which she probably would.

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Gingerkittykat · 01/08/2021 22:26

The BPD label is hugely stigmatising, she is likely to be seen as an attention seeker rather than someone who deserves help and support. I would avoid going down that route if at all possible.

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