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If you are separated with children

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Assistanceplz · 30/07/2021 20:36

Hi all

If you are separated/divorced and share children with your ex what is your arrangement?

Me and ex husband share a child, we are quite flexible during school holidays and there is no set routine. However, during term time we try and keep a structure for our child.

I was just wondering what works for other people and how you are managing? I’m interested in any tips you may have which you feel have helped bring a structure into the world of co parenting. What things make it easier on your child to go between houses, is there anything you wish you had done from the beginning which you didn’t and so on?

Thanks x

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Assistanceplz · 30/07/2021 23:01

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Feelinglow27 · 30/07/2021 23:07

What works for us

  • living closely
  • kid stays at his one night in the week s we wanted her to have 'one home'
  • despite this he sees her nearly everyday as he will pop to mine after work most days, enabled by us living closely
  • flexible at weekends

I would say the only con in this situation is that most of the childcare falls on me. But the bonus is i get up live with my child and she is settled.

The number one rule we have is that the child comes first, even when we have our less amicable days we do not let this bleed into the childcare situation. We try our very best to stay amicable. It's shit that we split up in the first place, no need to make it shutter for the kid by carrying on hating each other even after we have split.

PumpkinKlNG · 30/07/2021 23:09

He doesn’t see them at all, his choice.

Angelofchaos · 30/07/2021 23:24

We were 50:50. That's how it started.

Started as rolling 3 days at each. Which was a nightmare for childcare and work. But ds struggled not seeing the other parent for longer than 3 days.

Then we had almost set days. But 3 nights one week, 4 nights the other week.

Dd is now 17 and knocked that on head a while ago. He has had 3 live in fiancé's in 5 years. Dd got fed up by the 2nd set of step siblings she was expect to live with.

Ds still goes but has slowly reduced the amount of days he stays. He is only 10.

Their dad is good at making ds feel bad if he doesn't see him. Ds repeats that he doesn't want to go, but feels sad his dad is currently on his own. But as soon as his dad has another girlfriend, ds will be here more.

50:50 is great on paper. In practice not so much.

Clothing has been a real issue. For example ds really wantd some trainers, fairly expensive but I got them for his birthday. They disappeared at his dad's, even though his dad denied it. They turned up this week hardly worn and didn't fit him. The only shoes he had as his dad's were wet.

Exh often sends him back in clothes that don't fit. So I bin them and send him back in ones that do. Also, exh can't be arsed with remembering things for school. Swimming kits etc.

I have to have spares and live opposite the school so often have to drop stuff off on days exh has taken him to school.

Also have spares of lunch boxes water bottles etc. Because they rarely get remembered. During this school year I have made exh detour and go back to the school with stuff. Just tobtry and stop this.

Its very sad, because he was actually a good dad when were together. But now, he isn't so fussed. But remains convinced that if ds stops going I will claim cms.

I won't because he is self employed and barely earn anything on paper. I earn well so put money into savings for them anyway.

My biggest tips are, pick your battles. They will do things differently. Take some time and think is there anything you can actually do about it. If you speak to them and they disagree and carry on, would a family court even care.

Like they won't care that exh keeps moving in with different women. Or that he keeps introducing new women. So I keep my mouth shut and just support the kids.

If you can be flexible, do be. Don't say no to a change just because. But don't Also accommodate all the time if it causes you issues.

And listen to the kids. Don't let them see you are mad or upset at the other. Just support them. Grit your teeth. Ds at first felt he couldn't say anything about his dad, to the me. Mundane things like if they had been to the beach. I kept reassuring him I wanted him to happy with his dad. His happiness was my main goal.

We have got through it. Ds is very close to me and his sister and really does open up to us. It makes it easier, to deal with issues and sort things for him.

This is all based on an ex who is a dick though. But I think my tips would still help.

Twillow · 30/07/2021 23:48

Set days of week to fit around our jobs - majority care me.
Try VERY hard (not always successfully) not to make any negative comments about dickhead ex.
Do not get irritated by driving child to pick up forgotten or overlooked essential items from other house - not their fault they have 2 homes to manage.
Message or call child briefly every day they are away.
Do not expect any support or flexibility from ex who will of course expect it from you.
Older children will gradually start to make their own arrangements. Means they get to see less of the aforementioned dickhead ex which is fine with me.

But hopefully you will be able to have a better relationship with your ex - having had to leave the family home through DA there is very little communication between us.

TossaCoinToYerWitcher · 31/07/2021 01:05
  • Live close to each other and school (15mins away)
  • Each weekend one parent has kids from Saturday morning to Sunday lunchtime. This means we both see kids every weekend and we take turns having a "long" period of time to do stuff/go out for the day.
  • Take turns paying/arranging hair-cuts
  • Each buy set of clothes and shoes for each house (these go from parent to parent, however by-and-large they offset each other, so when Mum has trainers I've bought I've got the ones she bought at mine)
  • Split costs on dentists, school clubs, etc
  • During week I do two school runs/nights a week, Mum does three (that said, I have an employer who's willing to let me work flexible hours)
  • Most holidays can split 50:50 (Easter & Xmas seven days each, half term two and half days each). Summer is more difficult as I can't get full 50% leave. Can compensate with holiday clubs (parents don't live near) but their Mum currently doesn't work so is happy to cover 60%.

The number one rule we have is that the child comes first, even when we have our less amicable days we do not let this bleed into the childcare situation. We try our very best to stay amicable.

This especially.

Bouledeneige · 31/07/2021 01:47

My arrangement worked with my DC going to their Dad every other weekend (Friday to Sunday) and on Wednesday night. This was easy as we lived close too.

I made sure they had lots of cuddlies and clothes at their Dads house and good communications to update on things they need for school/supplies etc.

XH and I gave advance notice of work trips and holidays and were flexible with each other quid pro quo.

We did parents evening together and were consistent on rules etc.

To be honest once I got used to it it was a very nice life. I could be really there for the kids and then I got weekends to see friends or go away, have boyfriends etc. I also had my own life as well as being 100 percent loving Mum.

Just like when we were married I took overall responsibility for running everything really and oversaw the DCs welfare though their Dad was reliable and consistent - he really didn't take any initiative. Apart from sorting mobiles and taking them to the dentist I did everything else. The kids now at 21 and 19 both know that too but they love their Dad. I got more of the shit because they knew they could with me.

As the DC got to their mid teens they stopped going to their Dads. It was too much of a faff for them to cart all their school stuff back and forth. They had friends round to my house not his and he wasn't very creative about taking them off to do interesting things. But they did regularly go round to his for dinner.

And of course never bad mouth their Dad. They will suffer more if you do. And never use the kids to get back to him, they deserve two loving parents.

Misty9 · 31/07/2021 08:33

We've been 50 50 since the start, in various iterations. Now one week on one week off, changeover on a Wednesday. Longer time at each home was at request of dd. What makes it work:

  • very amicable between us so constant comms about issues (ds has sen) and we facilitate moving stuff around as needed
  • duplicate most stuff at each home but have a big box which gets filled with the current favourite toys/obsession to move between houses
  • share costs of everything child related
  • checking in with the dc every now and again about how it's going re arrangement
  • consistency with rules and boundaries is very important, but it's also out of my control and I have to accept that sometimes
  • exh wfh for himself, so can be flexible for school runs etc. I use wraparound childcare and annual leave.
  • we live a 5min drive from each other

It's the best arrangement it can be for us I think. And I don't see it changing really.

Getbehindme · 31/07/2021 08:46

Currently (as we are keeping an eye on how the kids are doing) we have set days with max two nights away from either parent and the weekend is split. This worked in the early days and coming out of lockdown but may need adjusting as the kids settle and lives evolve.

60:40 is the split, but we may move to 50:50 as things settle and we adjust the pattern

As above, living close by helps. As time goes by, both houses are getting better stocked with stuff but if you're amicable then there's no rush to stock both houses, just allow it to happen

We still have a joint account as we've not done our financial split yet so I take the lead on paying and organising things but it comes from joint account.

Housemovestress · 31/07/2021 08:54

One week night and one weekend day and night here, plus an after school tea time. We live close and share responsibility over holidays. Works really well for us

Shopsclosed · 31/07/2021 13:02

We started well with every other weekend and one night in the week but once he met someone else, he has become a bit unreliable.

Bonchance125 · 01/08/2021 22:41

DC are pre teen so maybe easier as they don’t have lots to cart back and forwards.
Alternate weekends,
On week ending with my weekend I do school pick up on day 1, they’re collected from me after dinner, stay o/n 2 nights, then back to me for 5 nights. Week ending with his weekend, same thing but end of the week they’re collected after dinner.

Holidays 50/50 take 3 weeks each over summer or spilt HT 3.5 days each.

I know lots of people say 50/50 doesn’t work and perhaps I disagree as DCs are older. Have their own sets of clothes at each house, games consoles, toys etc. Sometimes have an issue with things being forgotten (Pe kit etc) but usually resolved reasonably easily

rustyspoon45 · 02/08/2021 07:17

Our arrangement is EOW. On the weekend ds isn't at his dads he will go there one night during the week so he sees him at least one night every week. School holidays changes up a bit and ds will maybe go there for a longer period. We alternate Christmas.

Mutual respect is what works for us. In the beginning Ex and I were really quite vile to one another. He lied about ds whereabouts and introduced him to new partners behind my back. It took me a long time to get over that. Things are better now and it makes all the difference. I can happily contact my ex for updates while ds is there which makes me feel better. I would really struggle if it were the type of acrimonious relationship where I had to drop ds off and then not hear anything for the whole time he's away.

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