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I want to scream!!

44 replies

Lan2020 · 25/07/2021 17:30

I am so frustrated that I am unsure how to verbalise how I'm feeling!

I've discussed my relationship before and I know the general consensus was I should leave!

I'm fed up of many things; partner is useless, a snob, unsupportive, selfish, addicted to his phone and Xbox (although this decreased when I said I was not putting up with him on Xbox until 3am then sleeping until 1pm whilst I looked after our baby).

He constantly interrupts me and walks away whilst I'm talking to him. Drinks every night (for his back pain) and is someone who is loud and talks over me and shouts at me if we argue. I had an alcoholic father who I watched smash up our house, so I hate this behaviour.

He belittles things I do and he starts arguments with me about pointless things because he doesn't listen. A recent (and boring example)...
I was watching a show with my eldest in the games room, which is underneath the toddlers room and toddler was due to go to bed (he has put him to bed about 8 times in 2 years).
So I text him
Me: let me know if the TV is too loud (it was our sons bedtime and I heard him go upstairs, so I assumed he was taking him to bed)
Him: I'm just waiting for it to quiet down before I take him up.
Me: ok, so do I need to turn the TV down?
Him: how am I supposed to know, I'm not up there.
Me: sorry I thought you were upstairs and you said you couldn't take him to bed until it went quiet. So shall I turn the TV down?
Him: how the hell am I supposed to know if it's loud upstairs when I'm not up there why are you being difficult...
This conversation continued and he still thought I was an idiot. His problem is that he doesn't listen to a word I say.

We have many issues but here is one of the biggest. Our living situation. When we met I was living with my DS from my previous marriage and partner was back living at his dad's house following his divorce 8 years earlier. I then got pregnant, it wasn't planned but we loved each other and wanted another child so decided to live together. It was a huge arguement with much stress as he wanted us to live at his dad's house (6 bed house and his dad lives abroad half the year). However due to its location traffic is awful so I'd have had to quit my job, change my son's school and my son wouldn't see his dad during the week (his dad has always been great and consistent). My partner on the other hand works from home largely and when he does work, it was closer from my home than his previous home. He also complained he wouldn't see his friends so much (he's 51) but they live 20 mins away anyway, we can never get them out and if my partner does want to go out with them he can stay at his dad's. He basically told me at the time that I should move where he wants because he has the money, my son should move schools and I can be friends with his friends wives.
Anyway, he provided no support through a difficult pregnancy, so I wasn't going to move with him. I will say at this point that his dad's house and where I live are only 40 mins apart, so he can go there anytime.

He messed me around my whole pregnancy with living arrangements and eventually we rented a house so I could still take my son to school (1.5 hour drive each day for the school run) and closer to the motorway so he could go back to the family home. I packed and moved (including lifting king sized mattresses and dismantling bed) alone at 36 weeks pregnant and he turned up with an overnight bag.

Anyway. We've now been together 4 years and things have settled in some ways but not perfect. I struggle to let go of how he treated me in the past. We've now been told we have to move out of our house and find somewhere else. There is a huge shortage of properties and prices are very high at the moment. Meaning £1600 a month to rent. He earns a lot more than me, so will be paying the rent. I pay the bills. I offer to work more but he'd rather I be at home with the child because he can earn more than me (but only works 10 hrs a week).

As soon as we found out we had to move out, he started going on that we should move back to his dad's because we can live there rent free. Now I understand that is great, however he is obsessed with the family home. I've tried explaining that we only live 40 mins away from there (we go back there most weeks), I've also told my partner in a few years when my eldest leaves comp, I will live wherever he wants. I've discussed implications of moving to his dad's (his dad wants us there but it would be a nightmare him have my son who is not related and a toddler, I'd never relax), also I've explained if I had to commute over an hour to work then he would need to take my eldest to school and back (seen as his dad would be too far away), he hates getting up with our son as it is. He is honestly rubbish and I can't rely on him, if we moved I would need him to do more and he just won't want to.

We had a heart to heart and he agreed and basically said he's ok with us living in the area we are in now. However, moans regularly about the cost when we could live at his dad's rent free. I know if we moved there we would never leave!

I've said he's 51 and I'm 33, it is normal at our ages to pay our own way in life (I'd like to point out he earns good money and has 300k saved for a house deposit) but still goes on about having to pay rent. I completely understand it's extortionate but feel I'm supposed to be grateful that he lives with me and contributes!

I've told him I want to talk and he's on his Xbox with his online 'friends'. I've just heard him say he can't believe he has to pay so much money to live somewhere he doesn't want to be. He also said if someone had said at the start of the relationship that he could save 60k by not getting in a relationship with me, that he would have to think about it!! I'm fuming and fed up of him mocking me. I went in there and told him he can leave if he wants!! I can then hear him saying "she's listening in to my conversation". I wasn't listening in, he's on headphones and he's pretty deaf, so talks really loud and I was in the kitchen cooking roast!

Sorry it's long. I'm so stressed and feel physically ill. I can't leave, there are literally no houses to rent anywhere around here w and I can't afford it even if there were.

OP posts:
LadyLolaRuben · 25/07/2021 18:57

I remember your original post. Your partner is a doctor who works privately from home. The conclusion was he was abusive emotionally. OP you can love this guy all you want but no matter what you do for him things won't improve because he won't change. Please get help and plan to leave.

LadyLolaRuben · 25/07/2021 19:00

OP last time you posted i mentioned going to the safeguarding team or occupational health for support and checking out your HR policies - as you work in the NHS. Lots of Trusts give staff time off to plan leaving situations such as yours

omgthepain · 25/07/2021 19:02

@Lan2020
Don't waste any more time or indeed effort screaming 😱
Leave him he sounds vile

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 25/07/2021 19:02

I'm failing to see what's in it for you and your children

echobeach256 · 25/07/2021 19:03

I totally understand your situation as I am in it too, I don't know how to leave either as after having children am financially dependent on my nasty husband, I just want you to know you are not alone, we both will get out of this mess Smile

AttilaTheMeerkat · 25/07/2021 19:06

You have an overwhelming need to be loved because your own childhood was that unstable and otherwise shit. You did not likely feel loved or even safe at home and your father was a drunkard who went onto forcefully kiss you on the lips. He abused your trust completely.

This man you’re now with does not fill that emotional void either, only you can do the work to get yourself emotionally back onto a more even footing. And you need therapy like yesterday frankly.

princesslarmadrama · 25/07/2021 19:09

I'm sorry but sod work and the children's schools for now. Pack as much as you can and travel to where your family is.

sloutside · 25/07/2021 19:13

He let slip the other day that he thinks if we live there, then his dad won't get rid of the house and that when his dad passes (he's 88) he would let him buy.

I don't understand this. Why would his deceased Dad let him him buy the property when he passes? He'll be dead. The property will be transferred to whoever is named in the will to inherit it.

LunaLula83 · 25/07/2021 19:29

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RandomMess · 25/07/2021 19:31

Read up on codependency, he doesn't love you.

Love is actions - kindness, help, support, doing you share of the load.

Regularsizedrudy · 25/07/2021 19:41

He let slip the other day that he thinks if we live there, then his dad won't get rid of the house and that when his dad passes (he's 88) he would let him buy.

What does this mean?? Let him buy it? If he’s dead surely it will be inherited.
Also re it being expensive within 15 miles.. you could move further than that at least for now. I feel you are finding excuses to not leave tbh.

Lan2020 · 25/07/2021 20:08

@echobeach256 so sorry to hear you're in a similar situation. It's so hard isn't it. You'll probably be better off than me financially because you're married.

@sloutside and @Regularsizedrudy it confused me too. He has siblings so when his dad passes, the house will be split between them. His siblings won't want the house as they are their own homes and live miles away. I'm not sure if he's worried that if he's not living in the house, his dad may sell because it's currently just standing empty. I think he feels if he lives there then the house won't be sold (which it wouldn't). However when I asked him to explain, I didn't get much sense. As like I said, his siblings wouldn't want it. So I'm sure as long as my partner could buy them out, there would be no issue with him having the house.

The thing is. He talks shit and changes things to fit his narrative. So he will say he wants to be at the house because his dad is getting old and will need to be cared for. We've discussed this many times. His dad hasn't been in that house for 19 months. Even pre Covid he is only there 5 months out of the year. I've said it's ridiculous for us to uproot our lives to live in his dad's house because one day he may get an illness, especially seen as he himself barely lives there. I've mad eit clear that obviously if he gets ill then we would be there, him moreso and I'd travel there whenever I could. As I said, it's only 40 mins away.

OP posts:
Lan2020 · 25/07/2021 20:41

Can I ask though. Do you think I have a right to be upset that he said to his 'online friends' that if he had known the relationship would cost him 60k (not sure where he got that figure) then he would have to have thought about it? I feel so embarrassed and like he's mocking me behind my back. I really don't understand it. Every couple (bar a few exceptions) has a mortgage/rent to pay. To me it's rubbish and expensive but a normal part of life. I don't see why he seems to view us as a unique situation or why he feels I've cost him that money. We are supposed to be a family. He's supposed to want to be with us.

OP posts:
sloutside · 25/07/2021 20:41

The thing is. He talks shit and changes things to fit his narrative

Yes it would seem so.

So he will say he wants to be at the house because his dad is getting old and will need to be cared for

Who exactly is going to be doing the caring?

I've said it's ridiculous for us to uproot our lives to live in his dad's house because one day he may get an illness, especially seen as he himself barely lives there

You absolutely mustn't uproot yourself and move in there, no matter what else happens.
As I said, who is going to be doing the caring? Your DP can't even manage to put a toddler to bed without having a drama about whether a TV is too loud upstairs or not.

Moving in there would be an absolute disaster. (I had a similar issue with an ex and I am just so glad I wouldn't give in). Dig your heels in. Be stubborn. You are not moving in there. End of.
The major issue being if you were to move in with your children and the relationship goes pear-shaped, you'll end up having to move out at possibly very short notice.

sloutside · 25/07/2021 20:42

Do you think I have a right to be upset that he said to his 'online friends' that if he had known the relationship would cost him 60k (not sure where he got that figure) then he would have to have thought about it? I feel so embarrassed and like he's mocking me behind my back. I really don't understand it

Of course you have a right to be upset.
He is an absolute piece of shit.
You deserve so much better than this.

Twilow · 25/07/2021 21:06

What's stopping you making a nice life for your kids?

Twilow · 25/07/2021 21:07

Maybe we can help with that. There's no point going over and over what he does and doesn't do, you know he's horrible and that won't change.

But what can you do to change this situation and how can we help you?

CatalinaCasesolver · 25/07/2021 21:09

Stop trying to understand him. He is abusive and your children are being exposed to it. You are making excuses not to leave but you will be back here in a few months time saying the same things.

SixesAndEights · 25/07/2021 21:56

@Lan2020

Can I ask though. Do you think I have a right to be upset that he said to his 'online friends' that if he had known the relationship would cost him 60k (not sure where he got that figure) then he would have to have thought about it? I feel so embarrassed and like he's mocking me behind my back. I really don't understand it. Every couple (bar a few exceptions) has a mortgage/rent to pay. To me it's rubbish and expensive but a normal part of life. I don't see why he seems to view us as a unique situation or why he feels I've cost him that money. We are supposed to be a family. He's supposed to want to be with us.
Are you saying you want to tie yourself to this wanker with a mortgage?????

You're really not a family, I think when you get that notion out of your head you might be able to start thinking about the situation as it is - you're in an abusive relationship and the only way of fixing it is getting out of it.

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