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I’m questioning my marriage

16 replies

Spottyphonecase · 18/07/2021 01:59

Dh and I have been together nearly 25 years. He’s a good man and has always done his share of everything. The children (mid to late teens) adore him. We get in okay - no arguments or anything. Financially okay and both have good jobs.

I’m questioning everything recently. I have been having counselling for general anxiety the last 12 months. We have explore how I feel in my relationship recently and all of the feelings have come to the surface.

We met when I was 16 and he was 17. I idolised the ground he walked on and he knew it. He never really felt the same about me though I don’t think. When I unexpectedly became pregnant at 20 he was amazing. We bought a house and got married when DS was 6 months old. Our children have always been the most important people in his life. I kind of got pushed to the side. I sound jealous and I’m not at all but everything was about the children. He wouldn’t have a takeaway when the kids went to bed because it wasn’t fair on them, he wouldn’t have a babysitter for us to ever go out because we were parents and had responsibilities.

18 years ago we moved away from our hometown for Dhs job. I have really built a life for myself here and would never think of moving from the area now. Dh, apart from work has not made a life here. He has a few friends in the area but makes no effort with them whatsoever. He goes out about once every 18 months. I go for dinner with my friends once a month, walks with a friend weekly and I see another friend fortnightly. We never do anything with other couples. Dh has always said he doesn’t feel like it.

When the children were younger and we never went out he always talked about when they were older and could be left for an evening (youngest is 15 now) we would do things - meals, cinema, etc. We do nothing. I’m this evening as the weather was glorious did he fancy a walk by the river and stop at the local pub for one. He said it was too late. It was 6.30pm! We haven’t been on holiday in 8 years because he doesn’t want to.

Dh had an accident 12 years ago and we have had sex half a dozen times since. There is nothing medically stopping him getting an erection. Sorry for too much info but I have given him plenty of blowjobs in that time. He ejaculates, thanks me and then leaves me high and dry. I stopped giving them about 2 years ago. He occasionally asks for one and I say no. I have begged him to speak to a doctor but he won’t. He is 100% not having an affair and he hates porn. His sex drive just disappeared with the accident. It was dwindling a bit before that. He has no other side affects from the accident apart from a few scars on his arms and legs. I shamefully have also asked him for an open marriage and he refused.

I got upset tonight watching a programme and the husband complimented his girlfriend when she walked out of a room. I couldn’t remember the last time he said anything nice about me. He’s not horrible at all but he doesn’t give compliments. I compliment him a lot.
This evening I lost it a bit with him. I told him I felt he was only married to me because he liked the status of being married/childhood sweethearts. I raged at him that he had made the decision for me to be celibate with out any input from me and if he cared that much about our marriage he would have seen a doctor. I told him that for the past 20 years he has fed me with false promises and hope that I was stupid enough to believe. I told him if I had the money to leave I would. This shocked him. He said he was sorry. But that was it. I don’t know how to move forward.

There is no way we can afford to sell the house and run two homes even if one was a flat. We don’t have the equity or the earnings to do that. So I’m stuck. I honestly don’t know if I want to put any effort in.

I’m sorry this is such a ramble I just needed to get it out.

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Aquamarine1029 · 18/07/2021 02:11

I'm so sorry, op. You need to leave him, and there is always a way. How old are your children? Start making very serious plans and make them happen. You only get one go around, don't waste it.

Maydaybankholiday · 18/07/2021 08:45

Sounds like you are now in an exciting new phase of life where your kids are teens and you now have more freedom and he's not there with you. I agree with aqua, you only get one life.
I can't see any enjoyment in your relationship apart from keeping the family unit and the childhood sweethearts thing going.

HaggisBurger · 18/07/2021 08:52

Op I’ve left a man in similarish circs. Just know this …. When women start having these realisations that they are done. They are just that …. done. It still took me ages from first posting on here to actually doing it. But I am so bloody glad I did. You may be surprised how much more in the pot there than you think. Regardless - my life will be financially harder but that nice family home isn’t worth wasting the rest of my life.
We did marriage therapy and the guy said - if one person in the marriage prioritises something else - so work, kids, sport above their partner it will never be a good healthy team. Sounds like your DH used the kids to prioritise his selfishness and lack of sociability. Get out now. You can do this. That is no life.

Anothernick · 18/07/2021 09:16

I've been in an LTR for just a bit longer than you, and of course we've had our ups and downs. But it has succeeded, and looking back on it I think this is mainly because we both try to understand each other's needs and do what we can to meet them. If either of us has a problem at any level - financial,, social, sexual, with a hobby etc - we know that the other will listen and do what they can to help.

Your DH is not doing that, he is deaf to your reasonable requests for some couple time and a sex life. His approach to sex is selfish in the extreme, he treated you almost as a sexual slave, this is not the act of a loving partner who truly sees you as equal to him.

Perhaps the threat of your leaving will shock him into changing his ways but if not then you should be prepared to go through with it.

Greenwateringcan · 18/07/2021 09:18

You need to leave.

layladomino · 18/07/2021 09:18

Well done for being honest with him. You say he is a 'good man' but it seems he doesn't care about your happiness (holidays / trips out / sexually) or listent to your concerns. He doesn't show any appreciation at all. I bet you feel like part of the furniture, or a household appliance.

You deserve so much better. Good for you for keeping up friendships, so your world hasn't become as small as his.

I think, as someone said above, this could be the start of something exciting for you. Splitting up can look like the hugest obstacle, I get that. But you only have to climb it one step at a time, and it can be done. Maybe start thinking about where you'd like to be in, say, 3 years time, and then map out how to get there. Perhaps some legal advice would be a good first step.

Now you have opened up the conversation with your husband, you've ripped the plaster off, so it won't come as such as shock to him that you aren't happy. If you think it can be salavaged, perhaps now would be a good time to say 'These things have to change, quickly and permanently, or I will be divorcing you'.

My very best wishes.

Branleuse · 18/07/2021 09:38

oh god OP, hes given you such a boring life with promises to the future when all he was doing was buying time. Im glad youve kept your own social life going though. I wouldnt blame you for leaving though. You only get one life and hes taken your best years. He doesnt need to take all of them

billy1966 · 18/07/2021 10:18

OP,

I think your marriage to this very selfish man is well and truly over.

I think you need to stop thinking of yourself as a unit and focus all your energies on figuring out how you separate.

Do you work outside the home?
If not, that is where you start.

Next, look at moving out of the bedroom.

If the children have to double up, so be it.

He is a very selfish man who's sole focus is what he wants.

Stop doing anything for HIM.
Stoo making his life in any way comfortable.
Stop bloody complimenting him.

Start looking at your life outside the home and upping your outside interests.

He doesn't get to decide if you have an ooen marriage.

Tell him that your marriage is clearly over and that you intend to build a life away from him.

Once that has been said clearly, you have zero reason to remain celibate as far as I am concerned.

You have put up with his selfish controlling bullshit for long enough.

I wouldn't waste another minute being upset.

Focus 100% on you and what can be done realistically to move on.

You do not want to end up spending your retirement with him.

You have a lot of years left and your children will be forging their own lives.

Flowers
category12 · 18/07/2021 10:28

Yes, try living separately in the same house?

Do what you want to do, build your own social network and just leave him to it. Go on holiday without him.

Stop pouring your energies into the void that is your marriage.

whichwayisup · 18/07/2021 10:33

He may be a good man and a good father but he's a really rubbish husband.

No wonder you are raging. He knows how you feel. I wonder if he will be glad that you are making moves to do something about it. He is the one that is passively but clearly ending your marriage.

Nonmaquillee · 18/07/2021 10:38

It’s not shameful to ask him for an open marriage. You’ve suppressed your physical needs for twelve years and want to feel desire again.
Please leave him. You can have a great life without him and all the sex you want.

Spottyphonecase · 18/07/2021 10:52

Thank you all for the replies. They have all given me a bit of a shock this morning. When I typed this in the middle of the night everything seemed so much worse. The realisation in the light of day is the sharp shock I needed.

I think I just needed to someone to say it’s okay to leave and I’m not a selfish bitch by doing it.

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billy1966 · 18/07/2021 10:58

The very very last thing you are is selfish OP.

You have put up with a very selfish man who is a rubbish husband for 25 years.

I'm married nearly 30 years and what you have written is awful.

Long gone.

Stop thinking about him and his needs, he clearly dogive a shit about yours and has been more considerate of a piece of furniture.

You need to focus on you now, totally.

Leave him to whatever.

But stop doing ANYTHING that makes his life comfortable or easier.

You need your energy for planning your new life.

Flowers
Karmalady · 18/07/2021 11:01

I walked out of my marriage after 30 years. We were singing from different hymn sheets by then, the kids were grown, with families of their own, and I wanted something different.

It wasn’t really his fault or mine, we just made each other miserable.

15 years on, I’ve remarried and never been happier.

There is fallout when you leave, but it soon calms down. Be sure though - the grass isn’t always greener the other side of the fence..

ItPearl · 18/07/2021 11:08

So doing the maths here, you're not even forty?!

I would just take a deeeeeeep breath and tell him you want to split up.

It doesn't have to be all about racing out there and finding a new sex life but there is nothing more lonely than the situation you're in now.

chickensouporwine · 18/07/2021 11:51

I think if you're desperate enough you can make two homes work. But it's not really your worry, you just need to make one home work. Focus on your finances, figuring out something you can afford.

And until then live separated in the house. Date, go out, live your life.

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