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Going insane

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kazbag007 · 13/07/2021 08:45

Help.
I feel like I’m going mad.
I feel like I don’t know what to think anymore.

I have 3 children. 2 grown up daughters and a teen boy. I’ve been with my hubby 18 years and my daughters are from my previous marriage.

My husband does things that are driving me insane. An example of that is if there is two slices of cake left - one is tiny and one is big. He will snatch the big one for himself. Where as I would be the one to give the big one away. He does those kind of things and I feel myself hating him. Resenting him.
We go out and he is rude to people, when he drives he doesn’t let people out and will stop in front of their car blocking them in the street rather than let them pull out in front of us… I find it such a turn off.

When I say something to him he tells me I’m always calling him names. He will reply and say ‘oh you’re picking on me again are you? Do I pick on you?’
it makes me then think… is this me? Should I be saying anything.

He wakes me up on my days off work at like 6am and says ‘if I’m up you’re up’ and makes out hes joking, but he wakes me up! I would let him have a lie in!

I couldn’t find my bank card the other day and he said ‘oh that was on the kitchen floor the other day’ so I said ‘if you saw my bank card on the kitchen floor why didn’t you pick it up for me?’ He replied ‘why do you always have to start?!!’ I shut up. He didn’t speak to me for ages.

We go out and he’s rude to people all the time. Someone is slow on a til and he tells them! If he sees someone doing something wrong like breaking covid rules or not socially distancing he will comment loudly ‘what happened to being socially distant’
if I say ‘shhhh’ he will reply ‘you picking on me again?’

The other day he ate the last two slices of bread, yes I know that it sounds pathetic but he could have asked if I wanted one.
when I pointed that out he flew in a fit of rage about how I’m a nightmare to live with and I pick on him all the time.

I question myself all the time. Is it me?
he says I’m a bully. Should I keep my gob shut? After all what am I gaining by opening it!

The other week he left his wallet home and told me to watch it for him. I counted the contents as we have a teenage son. And to be honest cos he is how he is, I wanted to know how much was in it so that way if he said any went missing I would know.
low and behold he woke me up at 6am accusing me of taking £100 out his wallet.
I didn’t. I even wrote down on a bit of paper the amount that was in there so I would know.
-now he keeps his wallet in a locked tin and the key on his key ring. He makes me feel like *** all the time.

He says things to me in such a way and I react to them and then he comes back at me saying ‘here we go again - name calling’

All the above incidents happened within the past week only. I’ve had months of this - years of it.

I feel like at the moment he is doing what he likes and it doesn’t matter how his actions make me feel - but I say something and he turns it on me like I’m some kind of unstable insane wife.

It’s getting to me so much I am thinking of leaving but I can’t afford to live alone. I only work part time and rents are crazy high.

I just don’t even know anymore :-(

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Kazbag007 · 13/07/2021 12:52

@TheFoundations

Wow! Just wow!

This has blown my mind! Opened my mind!
Thank you so much for this!

I really feel what you've said is spot on.

No - I am never called any of that by anyone ever. People describe me as bubbly happy and caring! They describe him as moody, unpredictable and bipolar! That says a lot doesn't it.

I don't know why I doubt my own feelings - I think it's cos he's constantly chipping at me 'you keep doing this and that' and 'you always call me names' 'you're an abuser!' He actually called me that cos one day I flipped my lid and called him a selfish w**ker.
Yes I called him a name - but it took me a lot to get to that point.

I almost feel like he does things to set me up... so I go insane and then look like a nutter. That alone makes me doubt my feelings cos then I feel bad that I've gone off on one and end up apologising and that just reinforces his behaviour!

The more I think about it the more I feel miserable.

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Fustyoldface · 13/07/2021 12:53

Op it will be hard at first but you will be free, mentally free from all this nonsense. Maybe it will also be the wake up call he needs to stop being such a shit person to everyone too! Definitely look on entitled to and reach out to your family and tell them a bi what you've said here, the more support the better.

HollowTalk · 13/07/2021 12:55

@pinkyredrose

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up? well quite 08:57AttilaTheMeerkat As you mention on practically every thread you answer.

OP he's a bully, plain and simple. Do you want your son to be like this? Because he's learning that men can treat women like crap and women just take it.

But it is always relevant. It always applies to these threads and it's good that she mentions it.
Fustyoldface · 13/07/2021 12:55

Op re: your last post. He's a total bully. Stop questioning yourself, there's no need, it's not you.

TheFoundations · 13/07/2021 12:59

@kazbag007

My mind was blown when I learned it too. I suddenly felt amazingly and, actually, terrifyingly, responsible for my own feelings. But boy is it a position of power, when you find your feet. You don't even need to argue anymore. No feeling of defense inside. So it goes from

-God, you're such a bully!

  • No I'm not! The only reason I said that is because you never take my feelings into consideration and you seem to think that I'm just supposed to do everything the way you want and because you've EATEN ALL THE FUCKING CAKE AGAIN!!!

to

  • God you're such a bully!
  • Think what you like.

So much less stress.

I don't know why I doubt my own feelings

It goes way further back than you think it does. You will have been trained as a kid to put your feelings to one side, because something else was a priority. Have a think; were you respected and listened to by your parents?

TheFoundations · 13/07/2021 13:01

Oh, and were they listened to and respected by each other? The example they set is just as important as how they treated you personally.

bullyingadvice2017 · 13/07/2021 13:05

You have a problem here. The problem is him, he isn't going to change,

Your options... either put up with him, driving yourself crazy or try to change him, still driving yourself even more crazy

Or leave. Less drama, less horribleness in your life. And lie ins.

nolovelost · 13/07/2021 13:10

OMG OP just get out of that house. Borrow the money for a rental. This is what I did and it was the best thing ever. There is absolutely no reason to stay there, you'll be so much happier!

billy1966 · 13/07/2021 13:51

Good for you OP.

Good for you for wanting more for your son.

Kazbag007 · 14/07/2021 07:37

I've put an application in on a house. My daughter has applied with me to boost my chances of getting it.

I am going to see my parents today to discuss if they can help me out financially or not.

My son is very protective over his dad unfortunately so I don't know how that'll go. He's brainwashed - but I'll only tell him when I know I'm 100 per cent moving out and got the house.

I'm a bag of nerves.

He came home and was in a nice mood last night so was alright with me - which makes it harder to think I'm doing the right thing.

Tonight will probably be a different story though won't it.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 14/07/2021 07:40

Good on you for putting in an application on a house.

The nice/nasty cycle of abuse he has and continues to show you is a continuous one. Keep pushing forward with getting him out of your day to day lives.

billy1966 · 14/07/2021 08:21

Well done OP.

Abusers have a sixth sense when theybhave gone too far.
They can almost smell the fact that your mund is elsewhere and perhaps questioning their awful behaviour.
So they pull back enough that you just might yet again think you are over reacting.

As @AttilaTheMeerkat said, all part of the cycle.

Whatever your son decides will be his choice.

YOU will be in a safe peaceful home and he knows where you are.

Flowers
Kazbag007 · 14/07/2021 08:48

I might need to keep coming back here to re-read these messages to keep me strong.

I've been reading up on mental abuse and narcissistic traits and he has them all.

He really believes he is more important than everyone!

I've lived like this for so long I've forgotten who I am! I don't even know who I am anymore...

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Kazbag007 · 14/07/2021 21:02

I went to see my mum today.

She won't lend me any money. She thinks I shouldn't leave and that marriages take work. She thinks it's normal to be miserable as she has been with my dad being controlled and mentally abused for years.

I came away feeling low and stressed.

I need around £7000 to pay off my debts cos I cannot manage with them. I can sell my car next month after the last finance payment is paid and then go from there...

Not the news I wanted and did set me back a bit

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billy1966 · 14/07/2021 21:08

OP,
The most important thing is to have a plan.
Next month is fine.
Just make you plan and get organised.

Don't expect anything from your mum.
Sounds like you had a tough upbringing.

The most important thing is you see the truth and makecyour plans.
Call womens aid for support.

layladomino · 15/07/2021 16:26

Sorry you didn't get the proper support from your mum. But you are still doing the right thing.

I think that sometimes parents (and others close to us) are uncomfortable when we take action to deal with something that they have put up with for years. It kind of underlines to them what they should have done, but that they didn't have the strength to do it. Which makes them angry. So they would feel better if you would just put up with it, so they can tell themselves there's no other option.

I had a friend who was very overweight as were all his immediate family. His mum had serious health issues relating to her size. He decided to start exercising and eating more healthily. He felt great, and enjoyed his new life. His mum however seemed really angry that he'd done it. Constantly undermined his efforts, told him it wouldn't last, it didn't suit him etc etc. He realised what it was - his losing weight was reminding her that she could have done something about it and she would rather not be reminded.

Walkingwounded · 15/07/2021 17:23

I was you. It’s great that you’re getting out.

I honestly believe I would have ended up being institutionalised if I’d stayed. My sanity was on the edge, for the reasons TheFoundations and Attila have said.

Your mum can’t help you because she is too conditioned and programmed by years of abuse. For support you need

Women’s Aid ( they are thr experts in this kind of abuse)
CAB for support on debt
Tun2Us for benefits advice
Etc.

But do hold on to your strength. You’ve got this. The alternative is to end up like your mum - an old age of being abused and bullied and slowly going insane.

TheFoundations · 15/07/2021 17:34

@Kazbag007

I went to see my mum today.

She won't lend me any money. She thinks I shouldn't leave and that marriages take work. She thinks it's normal to be miserable as she has been with my dad being controlled and mentally abused for years.

I came away feeling low and stressed.

I need around £7000 to pay off my debts cos I cannot manage with them. I can sell my car next month after the last finance payment is paid and then go from there...

Not the news I wanted and did set me back a bit

Have you spoken to your creditors? Look up debt advice in your area. I work for a charity that provides debt advice. So so so many people come in at the end of their rope, over their heads in repayments, falling further and further behind. Then they get advice, and leave, ssmiling, saying 'I can't believe it was so easy!'

It's almost certainly not as bad as you think. And lots of people are in the same position. You're not on your own. It's very common.

Kazbag007 · 15/07/2021 23:54

I'm stuck here for at least 2 months more. I haven't told him anything, but he senses there is something wrong cos when he does he always instigates sex!

It's like if I have sex with him it gives him power or control.

Tonight I went to quiz night with my friend and my cousin. It was brilliant! We had such a laugh and he was home. I got back and got in bed - I was thinking he will either be mad cos I'm late in, or he will initiate sex. He did the latter.

I knocked him back. He turned over in a huff and then said 'I'm going to get a drink'
He left the room and slammed shut the door.
He's gone down stairs.

My bet is that he stays down there - which is fine by me.

He is never going to have power over me again.

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Arrivederla · 16/07/2021 06:45

Well done op - you are moving in the right direction. Keep going and keep posting. Flowers

billy1966 · 16/07/2021 07:00

Well done OP, having a plan in mind is great for now.

Baby steps.
Reach out to friends for support and tell your mother very little lest she decide to tell him anything.

Two months is nothing if you get out.

Please call Woman's Aid.

They are the experts and will give you practical advice.

Do not be afraid of contacting 101 to lodge your number with them so they will come quickly.

You are an abused woman so do not hesitate to call the police if you feel unsafe.

Keep posting.Flowers

Marshy86 · 16/07/2021 07:11

Well done OP, I'm glad you are going out and enjoying yourself. Could you get a job working from home to boost your income? Or maybe when your son visits his dad down the line it would be a possibility to pick up extra hours ?

ChaToilLeam · 16/07/2021 07:11

Good for you taking these steps. He is a horrible gaslighting bully, just hold on to your plans because you will soon be free of him.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 16/07/2021 07:54

The scales are off your eyes now and you can see clearly what he is doing. WELL DONE! It's hard, really hard, to get to that place of realisation. It's so much more comfortable to just stay wit the status quo. Especially when that's a familiar pattern from childhood.

Your DC with extra needs - how old are they? Have you looked into getting any benefits for them to help with personal care needs, transport etc? Depending on their age, could they (for example) walk a short distance to a friend's house then get a lift from friend's parent - therefore freeing you to up your hours at work?

Kazbag007 · 20/07/2021 00:54

UPDATE:

I'm still doing well.

I've told my sister of my plan and she backs me 100 per cent. She said that she feels that my husband is a Narcassist and he will never change.

She told me she thinks I'm doing the right thing and she will help if she can.

I feel a lot more confident now.

I can do this !!

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