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I need to leave emotionally abusive husband for kids sake - has anyone done this?

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AmyEliza · 24/06/2021 20:55

My husband of 10 years is emotionally abusive - I suppose the signs were always there before we had our first baby 2 years ago, but that really brought all the problems to the surface (I have been told by SAFE/solicitors that I have been in a DV relationship, this isn't my own conclusion).

He is verbally abusive to me but more worryingly he is abusive both about and to my son, who is 2. He cannot cope with any amount of stress that comes from being a parent (sleep problems/teething/illness/tantrums). This has been going on since my son was about 2 weeks old. He even angrily swore at him several times when he was a newborn.

I know I should have left him a long time ago and I have broken away a few times but he promised things would change and would have therapy for anger management which lasted just a few months. We also partook in couples therapy but that stopped, he also used to ask me before we went in not to mention some of the stuff that had happened because he didn't want the therapist to know (I was also concerned about sharing some of it due to safeguarding issues). These things included putting his hand across my sons mouth and shouting when he was crying to silence him, another time when I was 8 months pregnant with our second (accidental pregnancy) I had asked him to be home one evening to watch our son so I could go out for a meal with my friends. He made plans after he had agreed to help which involved a lot of drinking in the afternoon but promised me he wouldn’t drink too much and would be home on time for me to go out (something I rarely did). In the end he got back extremely drunk and was late so I was late. I should never have gone but he assured me he was ok. When I got home there were cigarettes and booze everywhere and he was passed out. We didn’t have any of these things in the house before I went to my meal, on further investigation I could see he had drunk driven to the shop to get these things and left our 17mo in the house asleep upstairs whilst doing so. I felt sick to my stomach. He was more upset about the fact he could have got caught for drink driving, not about the fact he left our baby by himself upstairs in an unlocked house, which could have set on fire and no one would have known, he could have got arrested and the police wouldn’t have even known a baby was home alone when he was in the station. He also told me he had got into trouble with the police earlier on that afternoon in town for being so drunk. He said he’d seek help from AA but contacted them once then didn’t bother again. There have been so many incidents, I know I need to leave for good. I get drawn back in so easily but my son is showing severe signs of anxiety 😥 I have always been a kind, compassionate people pleaser - I just cannot fathom how I managed to fall for this man and choose him to have our beautiful children with who deserve so much better.

Has anyone else survived this kind of relationship and come through the other side? Did you find that there was much emotional/financial support for you when you broke away? My husband is the higher earner and I’m worried that as a single parent I won’t have enough money to look after the children properly including having a roof to put over their heads. It’s so scary. I just can’t imagine having the two babes all the time with no help and no money. I also know it will get Nasty when I say I don't want him to have the kids overnight (I wouldn't relax he gets so angry with their sleep). I have broken away once again as last night he said he was sick of having f-ing kids and that it was my sons fault that this family was falling apart but after a few days he goes on about how much he misses his kids and I've taken them away?! I can’t bear the thought of my son turning into that monster or my daughter thinking this is the way marriage and family life is meant to be :(

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BeardyButton · 24/06/2021 21:01

I didn’t survive a relationship like this. I have survived as the daughter of such a man. My mother did leave..... 25 years too late when I was about 7. We were dirt poor for a long time. But Jesus.... the relief at not having to hide at 3am in the morning or call the police on my own father aged 6. Your kids will not care about the poverty. They WILL be damaged by the abuse. The abuse WILL escalate- it always gets worse. Get out. For their sakes.

WhiskersPete · 24/06/2021 21:04

Every second your son is around this man is damaging him. You have to put your son first and leave now. Poor little thing.

Embracelife · 24/06/2021 21:08

You hid his abuse because of safeguarding?
Do you see how that makes no sense
You will get support by telling everyone the truth
Start saying it as it is
So there is no unsupervised contact

Twilow · 24/06/2021 21:09

I think this is one of the worst things I've ever read on here. I left my abusive exh when he started abusing my/our son - gave him the silent treatment for accidentally kicking him. He was 1. This was almost 10 years ago and my son and I are very happy now.

ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2021 21:13

I think you need to get out immediately.

Don’t stay because of money worries.
Things can be sorted out.

Telephone Women’s Aid first thing.
Telephone a solicitor who deals with family law and is knowledgeable about abuse.

feelingdizzy · 24/06/2021 21:16

I left with a one and a 2 year old this was 15years ago. My ex was so emotionally abusive. It was hard sometimes but never once did I regret taking me and my kids away it saved us all. Don't stay it can and will be better .

Unanananana · 24/06/2021 21:19

He is a waste of oxygen. Your poor children. What are they learning from watching their mother being abused and being abused themselves? Is that what they deserve?

Get yourself and them out before he kills one of you. The drink driving and leaving a baby home alone is abhorrent. Why on earth would you shield him from that with your therapist? They could have started the ball rolling to get you out.

You are putting the wellbeing of an abusive drunk driver above your children. Get some professional help and get out before your kids suffer anymore.

chelida · 24/06/2021 21:26

I'm currently in the process of kicking out very verbally and emotionally abusive STBXP, who has always been nasty to me but has recently started to lose his temper with our daughter. In my case I'm the main earner, but it's still a wrench to go to doing everything as a single parent. However the absolute relief and - dare I say it, increasing moments of joy - as I don't have to live with the incessant moods, sulking, shouting, criticism, nasty comments is just blissful.

DD has been desperate for me to kick him out and I've already allowed him to come back once, but never again. He literally lasted a week of "nice" behaviour before the verbal abuse started up again and then we were locked down with him. I've reached the end of what I'll put up with and I've decided it's better for DD to have a calm home and see her mum calm and happy rather than the constant temper and name-calling.

Look at some of the books on this OP by Pat Craven and Lundy Bancroft, as well as the very good DV threads on the Relationships forum - it's like they are all the same, these men. Its like they have a script and they don't change. It's best to get out sooner rather than later as it only gets worse and you get more and more dragged down by it. I used to be a pretty lively woman with lots of friends, and ten years later I'm an exhausted haggard overweight lump who's been comfort eating for years, never goes out and has no self-esteem.

The faster you get out, the faster you recover and the faster you can either move on with our life or even find someone who you like better who treats you right. Wish I'd chucked STBXP out years ago, I might have found someone else in time to have another baby, which I desperately wanted.

On support, don't be afraid to tell people -- there is support out there, my mum contacted women's aid for me who have provided great support. I also registered the abuse with DD's school, and a lovely woman from the early intervention hub made contact to chat and help me find support for DD (they were not at all worried about contacting children's services, but were fantastic to talk to and help access various resources). Reach out to women's aid and your health visitor and honestly, believe people when they say it gets much better. Yes it's up and down at first but the sheer feeling of freedom and peace is just so worth it. Flowers

ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2021 21:32

Whatever you do don’t go to joint counselling again.

chelida · 24/06/2021 21:32

Also OP, these abusive men say a lot of stuff they don't mean and have no intention of doing. I guarantee your partner doesn't want to have your kids overnight and is only saying that to upset you. These men don't like work, effort or putting themselves out, so looking after 2 small kids overnight is not what they want to do (but they know it will upset you to threaten it). Don't fall for it!

MintyCedric · 24/06/2021 21:40

My XH was relatively 'better' than yours...he was at least a responsible parent even if he was EA to me,and, in the the last few months there were a couple of incidents with then 11yo DD.

I had already decided to leave and was getting my ducks in row when I took DD to the GP about accessing counselling.

After speaking to us together and DD alone, she asked to speak to me alone and gently explained that if it wasn't for the fact I was already making plans to leave she would have to make a safeguarding referral.

I was out inside a month and have never looked back.

DD is now 17 and sees her dad a couple of times a week, I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times she's stayed with him overnight.

I got 55% in my settlement, and as we luckily had equity in the marital home and with a little help from my dad and a great mortgage advisor managed to buy a little house of my own.

I work f/t but term time only atm and get a reasonable sum in tax credits so we manage okay.

I wish I'd left years earlier tbh.

MintyCedric · 24/06/2021 21:40

@chelida

Also OP, these abusive men say a lot of stuff they don't mean and have no intention of doing. I guarantee your partner doesn't want to have your kids overnight and is only saying that to upset you. These men don't like work, effort or putting themselves out, so looking after 2 small kids overnight is not what they want to do (but they know it will upset you to threaten it). Don't fall for it!
This is so true...ex told me he'd never let me leave with our DD and that he'd rather burn the house to the ground than see me get a penny!
Tossblanket · 24/06/2021 22:02

Poor child, your partner is a rat.

Get away from him.

Stormyequine · 25/06/2021 08:40

Your last sentence says everything. It will be incredibly tough at first when you leave, but you will get through it. Imagine the bliss of your home being a safe and peaceful place. Contact your local DA organisations, who will be able to point you in the right direction for where to find support.

Justcallmebebes · 25/06/2021 09:40

You need to leave for the sake of your poor children or before they are taken away for their own safety. You have two defenceless children. Please make them your priority and get away

Horehound · 25/06/2021 09:47

Your poor son :( get out now

AmyEliza · 25/06/2021 11:35

@chelida

I'm currently in the process of kicking out very verbally and emotionally abusive STBXP, who has always been nasty to me but has recently started to lose his temper with our daughter. In my case I'm the main earner, but it's still a wrench to go to doing everything as a single parent. However the absolute relief and - dare I say it, increasing moments of joy - as I don't have to live with the incessant moods, sulking, shouting, criticism, nasty comments is just blissful.

DD has been desperate for me to kick him out and I've already allowed him to come back once, but never again. He literally lasted a week of "nice" behaviour before the verbal abuse started up again and then we were locked down with him. I've reached the end of what I'll put up with and I've decided it's better for DD to have a calm home and see her mum calm and happy rather than the constant temper and name-calling.

Look at some of the books on this OP by Pat Craven and Lundy Bancroft, as well as the very good DV threads on the Relationships forum - it's like they are all the same, these men. Its like they have a script and they don't change. It's best to get out sooner rather than later as it only gets worse and you get more and more dragged down by it. I used to be a pretty lively woman with lots of friends, and ten years later I'm an exhausted haggard overweight lump who's been comfort eating for years, never goes out and has no self-esteem.

The faster you get out, the faster you recover and the faster you can either move on with our life or even find someone who you like better who treats you right. Wish I'd chucked STBXP out years ago, I might have found someone else in time to have another baby, which I desperately wanted.

On support, don't be afraid to tell people -- there is support out there, my mum contacted women's aid for me who have provided great support. I also registered the abuse with DD's school, and a lovely woman from the early intervention hub made contact to chat and help me find support for DD (they were not at all worried about contacting children's services, but were fantastic to talk to and help access various resources). Reach out to women's aid and your health visitor and honestly, believe people when they say it gets much better. Yes it's up and down at first but the sheer feeling of freedom and peace is just so worth it. Flowers

Thank you chelida. My heart goes out to you. I really resonate with everything you've said. I too was a happy, sociable girl and now I feel like all the life has been sucked out of me.
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AmyEliza · 25/06/2021 11:40

@chelida

Also OP, these abusive men say a lot of stuff they don't mean and have no intention of doing. I guarantee your partner doesn't want to have your kids overnight and is only saying that to upset you. These men don't like work, effort or putting themselves out, so looking after 2 small kids overnight is not what they want to do (but they know it will upset you to threaten it). Don't fall for it!
Yes I think you're right, and I know when I left him before he looked into how much he would need to pay out in child maintenance if we separated and it was a lot...but reduced significantly if he had the kids for (I think) 3 nights a week. Which will be another reason he will fight for joint custody over the kids. When we broke up before his mum told him to contact a family law solicitor. She referred to me as "cruel" when I wouldn't allow supervised contact (after the hand over his mouth when he had just turned one). She wasn't even there for the incident but totally minimised what happened. How can she protect this monster who is hurting her grandchildren?! To make things worse, I have reacted an awful lot to the abuse and have found myself going what can only be described as 'mental' and screaming at him, sometimes lashing out which I am not proud of. He wound me up once and then started filming me without me knowing so I know he will use this against me. It's all such a mess.
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AmyEliza · 25/06/2021 11:41

@MintyCedric

My XH was relatively 'better' than yours...he was at least a responsible parent even if he was EA to me,and, in the the last few months there were a couple of incidents with then 11yo DD.

I had already decided to leave and was getting my ducks in row when I took DD to the GP about accessing counselling.

After speaking to us together and DD alone, she asked to speak to me alone and gently explained that if it wasn't for the fact I was already making plans to leave she would have to make a safeguarding referral.

I was out inside a month and have never looked back.

DD is now 17 and sees her dad a couple of times a week, I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times she's stayed with him overnight.

I got 55% in my settlement, and as we luckily had equity in the marital home and with a little help from my dad and a great mortgage advisor managed to buy a little house of my own.

I work f/t but term time only atm and get a reasonable sum in tax credits so we manage okay.

I wish I'd left years earlier tbh.

Thank you so much. This is very helpful. I'm so glad you and your daughter got out.
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Flumo · 25/06/2021 11:53

My ex wasn't as bad but bad enough, I managed to get out about 6 years ago with my 2 kids. I had help from a abuse service which really helped so maybe see what is available in your area. We didn't have much money and moved into a much smaller house but we were so much happy away from him. Wish you all the luck, you can get though this 💕

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