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Struggling with ex

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TheChip · 20/06/2021 12:36

My child's father, who I left 8 years ago. Contact is steady, co-parenting is a case of him doing his thing and me doing mine. No issues there.

The issue is his constant assumption that i should engage with him. There is a lot to this but I'll try to keep it brief.

Our relationship ended after 5 years because he was extremely emotionally abusive and manipulative.

He cycles throughout this whole time trying to be nice, then turning nasty, trying sob stories and then turning nasty.

His girlfriend recently left him after a couple of months and he is escalating his nastiness with me. Its as though he can't take it out on her, for whatever reason, and so I am getting it.

Its all triggering me back to when we did break up and he took our son from nursery, claiming I'd never see him again. I was bombarded with abusive calls and texts from him and his family. I contacted children services who helped me get my child back, got a non molestation order and things settled down. But that time period of my life was the worst. He only had our son for 3 days, but it felt like a long time! I suffered nightmares of my son being taken from me for about a year afterwards. I was scared to send him to nursery for about 3 months and when I finally did I had the nursery make a plan with me so that I'd have time to get there if he showed up.

My whole point is, I feel how I did back then. It does not feel like his usual manageable outbursts with me. It feels like he is in an incredible unpredictable phase right now and it's worrying me. At the same time though, I can see how mentally I could be triggered back to that time and feeling how I am due to that.

Since his increase, and my anxiety spiking because of it, I am starting to feel that I need the police to speak to him if he keeps going. Which is another thing that's making me feel like I did back then.

He sounds completely unhinged sometimes. I dont respond unless it's about contact and so he just repeatedly texts when he starts. One text claimed "only I exist"
He pretended he wasn't seeing my messages arranging drop off, and was saying I was playing games and controlling by not responding. Then I called him out and told him my phone let's me know when a message has been received and he just said "and? Fuck off" so he was the one playing games!

I just needed to rant really. I'm usually able to just brush him off, but this time not so much and it's getting to me. He has even tried accessing my Instagram. It really is as though she has broke up with him and he's playing the whole thing out with me. He tried getting into my accounts when we broke up originally. Its never happened since until now.

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TheChip · 20/06/2021 17:02

There has only been 60 messages since last Saturday. Take 20 away (being generous) from where I have messaged or replied.
So 40 messages in a week where that has been no need. About 20 of them are of him being nasty. Plus 6 on messenger.

It really doesn't feel like much to complain about. But in my defense there, I did just want to log incase of further escalation.

Judging by the article, 2 or more texts are enough to count as harassment. So why the hell do I feel like I'm blowing it out of proportion?

Uhh I hope you are right and it is a case of thinking fuck him and not me being over the top.

Hopefully I will feel better after I speak to the officer tomorrow, although that is what is spiking my anxiety right now.

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rjacksmiss · 20/06/2021 17:08

❤️ no advice. I'm so sorry you're dealing with this cunt of a man. X

TheChip · 20/06/2021 17:20

Thank you. That made me chuckle. He really is just that!

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GrandmasCat · 20/06/2021 17:44

I'm starting to panic now. Thinking that his texts haven't been too bad. I've had worse. That I'm blowing this out of proportion.

Typical thinking of someone who has been putting with a lot of abuse.

There has only been 60 messages since last Saturday.

Ditto.

Your child is too young to be sorting contact directly. He doesn’t need to be aware of the conflict between you to be affected. If his dad starts using him to get to you he will. So good on you for calling the police, stay as strong, don’t back off. What he is putting you through is bad enough.

GrandmasCat · 20/06/2021 17:56

I remember the first time I called the police on my exh… I was all apologetic saying that possibly it wasn’t bad enough, and yada yada. The guy just stopped me and said, you are shaking, you are obviously scared and you have been apologising non stop since I arrived.

They may have seen something I didn’t as I got a panic button, a case worker and, after a few weeks, an offer to move to a refuge.

Funnylittlefloozie · 20/06/2021 18:06

Well,why DO you think you are blowing it all out of proportion? If i received 40 texts from someone i didnt particularly like, over a couple of days, i'd think they were a deranged nutter, quite frankly.

I don't think you're making too much of this - if anything, you're not making enough of it. Your ex is not right in the head, and you need to be really careful and protect yourself and your DS.

MadMadMadamMim · 20/06/2021 18:18

60 messages since last Saturday? From an ex?

You know how much you love your DS? I have 3 children in their 20s who don't live at home. I just checked my phone to help you put some kind of 'normality' to this.

Since Saturday I have texted one DD 8 times. And she had her teenage brother staying - collected him from train station, etc - which is why we've texted back and forth a bit.

One DD has texted once (to say tried to call Dad for Happy Father's Day). She then phoned him so I didn't bother text back.

Eldest DS has texted "Cheers" after I sent a text saying I'd sent him something.

That to me is normal contact amongst busy people leading their own lives who need to communicate.

TheChip · 20/06/2021 18:19

In all honesty, it feels like I have been flown back into the past to when we first broke up. Back then I thought i was blowing things out of proportion, and I was reassured that I wasnt by women's aid, police, solicitors and therapists.

I have been through this before with him, many times now but this time it feels different like I said at the start. Other times I've just brushed it off with "he's on one again"
But somehow I feel like I did back then. Be that because of a difference in him, or because I'm just not as mentally strong as previous times, I dont know.

I think you're right grandmascat - when you say maybe they could see something you didn't. When you're in it, you kind of minimise because they've taught us to do that. So what is glaring others in the face, you're seeing it through squinted eyes.

Thank you for that. Im going to try and remember that point every time a pang of doubt comes about. Sorry you had to deal with that though, it must have been an awful time for you.

As for him not being right in the head, I dont believe he is. Its just not normal behaviour.

Thank you all for the reassurance!

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TheChip · 20/06/2021 18:23

@MadMadMadamMim

60 messages since last Saturday? From an ex?

You know how much you love your DS? I have 3 children in their 20s who don't live at home. I just checked my phone to help you put some kind of 'normality' to this.

Since Saturday I have texted one DD 8 times. And she had her teenage brother staying - collected him from train station, etc - which is why we've texted back and forth a bit.

One DD has texted once (to say tried to call Dad for Happy Father's Day). She then phoned him so I didn't bother text back.

Eldest DS has texted "Cheers" after I sent a text saying I'd sent him something.

That to me is normal contact amongst busy people leading their own lives who need to communicate.

Yes, you're completely right! That does show how abnormal it is.
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Umberellatheweatha · 20/06/2021 18:54

60! That's insane!

'Only?' What is that a slow week for him or something?

Really op 2 or 3 nasty messages would be taken by the police as harassment. He has sent 20!

Absolutely time you dealt with this. The police need have serious words with him. And if I were you I'd look into getting another non molestation order asap.

CallMeNutribullet · 20/06/2021 18:54

Now that he's dealing directly with your son, could you block him?

That's what I've had to do

TheChip · 20/06/2021 19:14

I can most definitely block once I have this cheap phone. I've ordered it with a £10 top up as well so it will be good to go as soon as it gets here. It said wed/Thurs so should be here before Friday.

I'll see what the police say tomorrow regarding a non molestation order. They might not see a need to take further action with a new phone etc.
I hope they still do though to prevent him from using the other phone to bombard. Even if it is only a word with him.

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FortunesFave · 20/06/2021 22:17

Well done OP. It was really important that you reported him...the police have taken it seriously which shows that you were definitely right.

Not blowing things up...not at all.

60 is NOT normal. 3 might be reasonable if they were saying reasonable things.

Again...WELL DONE...this is so important and you're taking back control.x

Umberellatheweatha · 20/06/2021 22:38

@TheChip

I can most definitely block once I have this cheap phone. I've ordered it with a £10 top up as well so it will be good to go as soon as it gets here. It said wed/Thurs so should be here before Friday.

I'll see what the police say tomorrow regarding a non molestation order. They might not see a need to take further action with a new phone etc.
I hope they still do though to prevent him from using the other phone to bombard. Even if it is only a word with him.

The other phone is just something your son will use in cases when he leaves his phone at his dad though. So just have your son tell him its HIS spare phone ('hey dad, left my other phone at yours so just using my spare burner' ect). That way trying to reach you on it would be pointless.

The police should still take it further as he is acting like a crazy person and needs to be warned off asap. Not 'if' it happens more.

TheChip · 21/06/2021 08:07

Thank you. Yes I will have our son tell him its his spare phone that he has.

I'll let you all know how it goes today. I'm really nervous and did try cancelling. I know I shouldn't have, but they don't think it's a good idea to cancel anyway so the appointment is still going ahead.

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FortunesFave · 21/06/2021 10:49

Of course you're nervous and the officer will know that too. Don't try to do anything other than look after yourself until they come and remember that they're doing this not just for you...but also for your child. They must ensure your safety and welfare because you're a person with rights AND a Mother.

TheChip · 21/06/2021 14:57

My anxiety is still at an all time high. I had a good chat with the officer, he viewed the messages and stuff.
It has been logged. I've explained about the new phone on the way, and the plan with that.
I have blocked him on messenger and will block him on my phone as soon as our son returns.

I do feel like I've wasted their time as once I've blocked he won't be able to contact me, and if he does thats when I should have went to them. I suppose at least now the case is sitting waiting and so if he does contact me after he has been blocked, it is ready to go. Fingers crossed

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Umberellatheweatha · 21/06/2021 14:59

Its not wasting there time to log these things just incase. Good on you for getting it done.

He may look for other ways to harass you once he is blocked so dont be slow to call the police again if that happens.

Well done for today!

FortunesFave · 21/06/2021 15:00

You have not wasted their time. Not at all. It's vital that they know about his behaviour in case it escalates. He sounds like he's unstable OP.

I do not want to frighten you but be very aware that when he realises about the spare phone and that he's blocked, he might try to contact you in other ways.

TheChip · 21/06/2021 15:12

That is what worries me more than anything about all of this, the fact he seems unstable. He is unpredictable at the best of times.

Thank you for reassuring me that I have done the right thing. Hopefully once my anxiety settles, I'll feel that way too.

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Umberellatheweatha · 21/06/2021 15:33

Thats why you've absolutely done the right thing getting the police in on things op.

You might also be wise to get one of those ring doorbell camera things so you can see who is outside before answering the door.

thenewduchessofhastings · 21/06/2021 15:58

*Look up the grey rock technique
*Block your ex across all platforms;your child is 11 and has a phone.
*Go to the CSA;he should be paying maintenance
*If his mother start harassing you block her too
*considering another non molestation order

Newestname001 · 21/06/2021 16:48

Sending you a HUGE hug, @TheChip.

You've had some great advice here and have screwed your courage to do the right thing. I also agree with the PP who suggested a Ring doorbell. Read up the many reviews on Amazon or otherwise online. I'm unsure whether the police can also make security suggestions, including locks on your windows and doors, door chain etc. - they used to.

Deep breaths. 🌹

TheChip · 21/06/2021 18:13

Those doorbells will come in handy if he does start coming to the house, which I doubt he will. But if it does happen, I will buy one for documentation. Otherwise, I can see through my door who is there to know whether to answer or not.

The DV team will be calling me in a few days, so I'd imagine they will run through safety precautions with me.

As of now, he is blocked on everything. Hopefully that is the end of things, and if its not the police will act immediately. Especially since he will be going out of his way to contact me, after I've asked him not to.

Thanks again to all of you Flowers

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GrandmasCat · 21/06/2021 19:26

Just to reassure you further that you did the right thing. Don’t expect he is going to take well being blocked, he would find a way to get at You circumventing the new measures and that is when reporting him comes handy, when you report him again, they will listen.

The only thing that I would suggest is that if they offer to go and have a chat with him, say YES. If things get worse and they ask you about pressing charges, say YES. Because they won’t offer that if you do not needed it and you don’t them to start looking at you as someone who cries wolf and then blocks them from doing their job. In other words, accept all the help in offer, you need it to get away from this nightmare.