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What do you make of this situation?

50 replies

NoisyNuts · 10/06/2021 23:06

Sarah is currently a SAHM looking after a preschooler and also has two other children (different dad). She receives £700 a month from her ex, £300 from a family member and £500 from Ken, her current partner. Out of this she pays ALL the bills, food shopping, etc, basically everything. The house is hers and is paying the mortgage using previous overpayment credit. Money is tight but she can afford not to work for a little while but not forever. Ken doesn’t pay her at the beginning of the month when Sarah would prefer, it’s always in dribs and drabs after she has to ask multiple times because she’s run out of money and is paying overdraft fees. Ken’s income is around £2000 per month, out of this he pays for his travel to work, lunches, cigarettes, booze etc. He probably has around £1000 disposable income. He has also run up credit card debts. Ken doesn’t seem to be able to budget and when I’m he does shopping himself he goes to Waitrose. Sarah shops at Lidl or Aldi because it’s cheaper.

She would actually like to be working but tbh is struggling to cope, the toddler isn’t a particularly easy child and she receives very little help at home from Ken. In fact Ken often works 6 days a week and rarely takes time off. He does finish early some days but when he does chooses to go to the pub with people he works with. Ken does some cooking, although less and less nowadays and never in workdays. He doesn’t lift a finger in terms of housework and actively avoids helping to fix things around the house. Every little task involves a lot of nagging and a big fuss before it’s completed. Sarah feels like she’s drowning trying to keep on top of things.

Lately Ken has been drinking more regularly so is unable to help with the toddler when he gets home, he does this even on days when Sarah calls and ahead asks him to come home sober so he can help because there’s something specific she needs to do.

Sarah often feels overwhelmed and exhausted. Because Ken is never there, the older DC (who are more than capable) end up helping when they should be doing homework etc.

Things have not always been that way, they have steadily got worse since the pandemic started and crucially 7 months ago Ken disclosed some serious childhood trauma.

Nothing is changing, Sarah has repeatedly spelled out to Ken why she’s so unhappy and he’s just not getting it. The drink has a lot to answer for but regardless he’s still so damn uncooperative.

OP posts:
Bluntness100 · 11/06/2021 06:47

Are you Sarah? If so why not just say so?

ChairOnToast · 11/06/2021 06:51

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feistymumma · 11/06/2021 06:52

I got rid of the Ken in my life three years ago and life has never been sweeter. Ken soon patched on to another woman and is leeching off her to his heart's content. Other woman seems to like it. Good riddance for me

DinosaurDiana · 11/06/2021 06:54

Kick him out.

HerMammy · 11/06/2021 07:00

Childhood trauma is not a get out for being a tight lazy bastard that doesn’t give a fuck about his partner or child.
It’s your house; get him out, where he goes is not your problem.

Bksjshsbbev2737 · 11/06/2021 07:03

Sarah needs to kick Ken out who is completely taking advantage of her and doesn’t really care about her based on the money situation.

Bksjshsbbev2737 · 11/06/2021 07:06

The childhood trauma part is important but his way of coping with it isn’t good for him either and doesn’t excuse the money thing. It’s also not an excuse for neglecting his own child and he needs to find a way to address it but that’s not Sarah’s responsibility

HollowTalk · 11/06/2021 07:24

It's quite remarkable how many of these freeloaders are self-employed and don't see anything wrong with fiddling their tax returns.

DonLewis · 11/06/2021 07:27

Ken is a cock-lodging cunt.

Love a bit of alliteration, me.

MadeForThis · 11/06/2021 07:29

Ken has nowhere to go because he realises that there is nowhere else he could live for £500 a month that included rent, bills, cleaner and childcare.

Kick Ken to the Kerb

More alliteration :)

spotcheck · 11/06/2021 07:30

Sarah needs to let her older two do their homework.
Sarah needs to not lean on children for support.

Good luck Sarah

Sportysporty · 11/06/2021 07:34

Sarah needs to look on shopping chanel QVC (Queens verses cocklodgers) and but thier todays special offer of A backbone, a grip and a barge pole to push the twat out of her house

myfuckingfreezer · 11/06/2021 07:38

Sarah doesn't need to work out his income for maintenance, CSA will work it out

NoisyNuts · 11/06/2021 10:29

Yes it’s me, I wrote in third person because it’s easier to get perspective on it and think objectively if I remove myself from the scenario.

It’s interesting that everyone has focused on his cock lodging behaviour....before the pandemic hit he was contributing a bit more, say £100 extra a month but was also saving a lot - all in his own bank account though. This was fine with me, it was general back-up money for work, etc. He spent all his savings during the first lockdown and wasn’t careful with budgeting, e.g. was going to the fancy butchers once a week and spending £60 on meat alone 😯 (I can do a basic weekly shop for family of 5 in Aldi/Lidl for that much). So when he started working again last summer he’d spent all his savings, this is when the credit cards started - to be fair, his earnings dropped quite a bit but he still would have had £700 a month disposable income after giving me money, paying for travel and lunch etc.

He’s also started smoking again which costs a fortune.

Last summer everything was fine then he went away for work around Oct time...that was when everything went downhill. He went with a friend who has previously had a liking for cocaine, also a woman from nearby where he was working popped up on my people you might know list on Facebook (although I also have older relatives not far from where he was but she didn’t look like someone they’d know tbh). Something happened at that point, either he started taking coke or slept with the woman and she decided to blackmail him. I’m probably reading too much into this but just looking for an explanation for why everything changed so suddenly.

I was planning to be working by now but was waiting until after the pandemic was over - toddler in childcare, two older kids in and out of school - it all just seemed too complicated, plus because the mortgage is covered for a while, I can afford to! I think he actually may think I’m the one sponging off of him.

But tbh I’ve been coping less and less well, some wider family issues which have been exacerbated by the lockdowns and neighbour issues have been getting me down. He doesn’t support me emotionally or practically with them (not much can be done about the family stuff, it’s been ongoing my whole life but the neighbour issue could have been sorted simply by him helping me put up a fence. I have been at home all the time with a bully for a neighbour). I just feel like I’m on my own with everything, my mental health has really taken a tumble and now I don’t feel in a position to actually get a job 😢

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FrumpyBetty · 11/06/2021 10:46

Ken is a cocklodging cunt.

Sarah needs to get herself and her children away from him and kick him out.

Sarah know this but is scared of doing this alone (even though she is already doing 99% of it alone already).

Sarah can do this because she is strong and know that it is the right thing to do.

MrsBobDylan · 11/06/2021 10:54

Sarah has made some poor life choices, especially considering she already had two children when she first met Ken.

She now needs to own her mistakes and:

  1. Kick out cocklodger Ken and get CSA for him.
  2. Start to work towards financial independence.
  3. Get therapy so she can avoid another cocklodger Ken situation in the future.
premium77 · 11/06/2021 11:00

Sarah needs to stop relying financially on (low-value) men

romdowa · 11/06/2021 11:04

Sarah needs to change the locks and tell Ken to sling his hook. Who cares where he goes , as long as he isn't sponging off her!

CoffeeBeansGalore · 11/06/2021 11:16

Ken is an adult. Sarah does does need to manage his life. Ken will soon sort himself out when his stuff is in boxes/black bags in the front garden and his key no longer fits the changed lock.
Book a locksmith rather than making an emergency call. It will be cheaper.
If Ken works 6 days a week, Sarah has plenty of time whilst he is out to launch this waste of space and all of his crap out of her life. He smokes, drinks and has debts. Life will be easier without him.

CoffeeBeansGalore · 11/06/2021 11:17

*Sarah does NOT need to manage his life

RandomMess · 11/06/2021 11:18

You will feel less lonely and alone in this crap relationship.

It's your house you can simple change the locks and tell him to piss off, leave his belongings on the doorstep.

ALittleBitConfused1 · 11/06/2021 11:28

I get how hard it is but your life cannot be reliant on men doing the right thing. Your mental health can and needs to be fixed by you and you alone.
You need to get a job so whatever is stopping you doing that needs to change if it can.
Look around for a fencer, get quotes. Work out how long it will take you to save for it, if possible skim as much off of him as possible in the mean time.
Look into benefits, have a clear picture of what you will get don't worry about what you can't get off of him. Look at definite, anything else is a bonus.
Look into childcare. Start looking around for nurseries so when the free hours are available you're ready to go.
Start working on your cv. So that once childcare and schools are more consistent you're good to go with applying for jobs too.
You need a plan, write a list and work on one thing at a time.
It's hard and it's not going to happen over night but use this time to get things in place. If you are struggling go to Drs , get yourself on a wairing list for counselling and in the meantime consider medication. Can the older children be given a chore list, one washes up and earns an hour of screen time. They both do their homework and get a small reward, a £1 if you can afford it.
There will always be things you can't change and if you focus on those life seems overwhelming but if you deal with the things you can change, slowly your mental health will improve.

Ohsugarhoneyicetea · 11/06/2021 11:34

End it, give him a weeks notice then change the locks, make a universal credit claim and child maintenance service. You'll be better off in every way. Then hopefully in a good mind set for finding work.

Chloemol · 11/06/2021 11:49

Sarah should ask him to leave, get maintenance from him and go back to work

billy1966 · 11/06/2021 11:59

@Chloemol

Sarah should ask him to leave, get maintenance from him and go back to work
This.

Sarah is being used.

Sarah needs to start making better decisions if she wants her life to improve.

Telling Ken to get out would be a start.
Ring 101 to get him out.
Flowers

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