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Feeling trapped, lost and a bit useless..

16 replies

Shunter350 · 09/06/2021 05:14

Hi everyone, originally posted this in the separation thread, but perhaps this is where it belongs..

Occasional contributor here and I’m a 56 year old guy.
I’m going to dive right in..
Married for 25 years with two great kids who are now adults, one still at home.
I’ve never been happy in my marriage, both me and my wife have had difficulties but stuck with it. There has never been a third party.
Last summer a number of things happened. I realised I had never experienced romantic love, and on many occasions I had been reluctant to go home from work because of the atmosphere.
I realised quite starkly that I wanted to at least try and find that special someone. I also realised that I didn’t love my wife. This was immense for me and I had a small breakdown.
One of the serious issues for me was that our marriage was sexless. It was cold. I was / am desperate for intimacy. Not quick sex affairs but the heart warming cuddly type of warmth.
Over the years I had broached the subject with my wife but was always told to “look after myself”, or “is this about sex again?”..
We were living like brother and sister.
Obv there is much more but I’ll skip forward.
I told my wife that I wanted to end it. Then I told the kids.. it was hell.
Then my wife had a real breakdown. The kind where I had to hide the pills and pour the drink down the sink.
I decided to stay to help her get stronger, there is no hate or animosity in relationship just we’re not compatible.
My wife wants a companion husband not an intimate husband.
I had two months off work dealing with my own breakdown and my wife’s.
Then my wife’s father died in the new year.
It has completely devastated her.
I’m still with her and we are getting relationship counselling for different reasons. However we both have said we feel stuck.
Late in the old year I met a lovely woman briefly at a work event. We chatted briefly then parted. She had my number for work stuff but she got in touch in November when she heard I wanted to separate.
We have chatted online very frequently but have never met since that event. We have discussed many things including our futures, possibly together.
She separated three years ago and is ready to start another relationship. We were planning to meet for a coffee soon but she wanted to know where she stood.
I said I was emotionally ready for a relationship ( have been for years) but physically I don’t feel I can leave my wife yet.
My wife has joked many times recently about me meeting someone new, but she is terrified of being in her own. I have always told my wife that even though we go our separate ways I will always be about for her if she needs help.
But I feel my life is slipping, whether this new lady is for me I may now never know. I feel angry and frustrated that I’m not brave enough to go..
So that’s it in a nutshell. I’m happy to answer any reasonable questions but has anyone felt an almost unbreakable loyalty to a spouse even though real love and happiness may be found elsewhere?

OP posts:
Aquamarine1029 · 09/06/2021 05:28

You need to leave your wife. That's it, end of. You're not happy, she's not happy, and you're not responsible for her happiness. Cut the cord and just go.

Anonapuss · 09/06/2021 05:42

Your wife is in limbo land because of your perceived indecision about leaving.
You were leaving and now you're in therapy - even though for you its still over.

You need to leave and make the clean break for both of your long term sanity.

Short term pain, long term gain.

She then has the opportunity to move on, too, like you are.

Right now, you are actually being bery selfish, staying because its easier for you and takes the least effort.

Anonapuss · 09/06/2021 05:43

*very

Sparklfairy · 09/06/2021 05:52

Right now, you are actually being bery selfish, staying because its easier for you and takes the least effort.

While this may be true, it sounds like there's an element of codependency going on if he's had to hide pills.

Ultimately you have a right to be happy OP, and your marriage is long over. Staying out of guilt and a sense of responsibility for your wife is worse for both of you. Time to do the right thing and leave, however scary or painful it might be in the short term.

Borderterrierpuppy · 09/06/2021 06:13

Go, you have one life and it is very clear your marriage is long over.

YellowBeryl · 09/06/2021 06:27

Your wife can't move on until you move on.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 09/06/2021 07:30

I've never found love either, both of my husbands were cold and uncaring. I live with my DS and Dil now very happily and have given up on trying to find a happy relationship.
You should tell your wife you need to separate and work it out together. Neither of you are happy, it feels like hell during the process but I think you will both be happier when it's done.
I felt suicidal when my 2nd husband left but in the end it was for the best and we are all happier.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 09/06/2021 07:30

Also romantic love is overrated.

Peace43 · 09/06/2021 07:37

You should leave your wife. This dragging it out doesn’t help anyone.

Cosmos123 · 09/06/2021 08:09

You are prolonging the suffering for both of you.
Life is too short.
Dont waste a day.

Shunter350 · 09/06/2021 08:54

Thank you. There is an element of co dependency. I can’t deny it. My wife had an abusive relationship before me. Then all this. It’s very hard for her.

OP posts:
Shunter350 · 09/06/2021 08:55

Thank you everyone. I appreciate your time and thoughts.

OP posts:
Shunter350 · 09/06/2021 08:56

Yes I agree. Thank you.

OP posts:
Shunter350 · 09/06/2021 08:57

Ahh.. but I would like at least to try and find it..

OP posts:
Babdoc · 09/06/2021 09:40

OP, this isn’t a marriage, it’s a codependent house share.
Neither of you are meeting each other’s needs, and you are making each other miserable.
You have a chance of happiness elsewhere and only one life in which to experience it.
However, I would caution against rushing things with the other woman.
Move out, initiate the divorce, but live alone and just date the OW while you work through the emotional aftermath from your marriage.
Diving straight into a rebound relationship can be a recipe for disaster, so give yourself some healing time.
Secondly, be very cautious of continued involvement with your ex wife. You are not responsible for her, and should be resistant to emotional blackmail or manipulation. She may well blame you and/or have another mental health breakdown. Hard as it may be, keep your distance.

Sakurami · 09/06/2021 09:44

You need to leave your wife. And live your own life. Good lick op, hope you find a wonderful love

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