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He has some sort of feelings for her (please help me make sense)

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blowingin · 07/06/2021 11:42

I met, fell in love with and married a "damaged" man. I didn't know this initially as it was a lovely, calm, warm and very sweet relationship but one where he was carrying some very deep wounds of childhood abuse. Over time together, we loved each other very much but these issues were making it impossible for us to live a full life. I worked very hard at things, trying to help, but he was not able to face or deal with his own issues and he was self medicating by drinking which I didn't want to be around.

As a result, after only a year of marriage, we separated for 18 months, and for a year of that we didn't see each other at all and got along with being single. The separation was at my request, we were both very tearful about it, still in love when we separated but at the time I felt that we were better off apart as he needed to be healthy in himself to be a healthy husband to me.

During our separation, I dated a few people once or twice but really wasn't interested as I was still in love with DH and I never slept with anyone else. He didn't date anyone, but he leaned on a female colleague, who obviously fancied him, for counselling and emotional support and for many months she became his "bestie" and they did everything together.

She was his confidante regarding the separation and his issues and he got very close to her indeed emotionally. He told her he loved me and wanted to reconcile and she was very kind and nurturing towards him and he thought this was a really genuine friendship. He says, with hindsight, he doesn't think he's ever really had a close friendship like that before (childhood abuse and so on) and he says they got on really well and he really enjoyed the time they spent together.

After nine months as best friends, they had sex. Then they started having sex fairly regularly for a few months. She wanted more from him, told him she was in love with him, but he said he loved me and wanted to fix himself and fix the marriage if I would take him back. She was very upset about this and didn't understand why he didn't love her /want her if they got along so wonderfully and were so happy together. He said that at no time did he have romantic feelings for her and he told her that.

Over this time, he had begun seeking counselling and making the changes I had asked for in the ,marriage. He worked through some very troubling childhood things, stopped drinking and started getting to a place he knew he needed to be. He never stopped messaging me and telling me he loved and missed me. As I saw progress, we met up and agreed to try dating again and see if we could start over again.

Once we did, he told me about the woman he was seeing and I told him if he wanted to approach reconciliation that he would need to stop seeing her completely as I didn't want to try and reconcile our marriage with a third party involved, even as a close friend, as he had been sleeping with her and it seemed messy.

He readily agreed and explained to the lady that we were attempting reconciliation and he could not see her at all anymore. He and I began the process of reconciliation and it was going wonderfully because he had taken the time apart to do all the things I'd asked and he had worked through, in counselling, the issues he had been having. We started to date again, and we were very much in love all over again and it felt like a wonderful new start.

However, contact at times remained with this other woman as he needed to see her at work, and I think after a few months of "no contact" and things going so well with us, he felt it was okay to loosen boundaries a bit and he started having chats with her again at work. I think he naively though it was okay now and they could just go back to being friends. It blew up in his face because she was still in love with him and speaking with her blew up a whole can of worms of her saying she missed him and loved him and so on which by turn made me really upset.

He then understood she was going to remain a problem within our marriage, so he rearranged things at work so he was working out of a different branch and no longer needed to see her. I appreciated him doing that and I didn't feel any threat as he seemed to have no romantic feelings towards the woman, although he admitted he really missed their friendship and wished he had never had sex with her so he could keep it.

The problem was, after he completely cut contact with her and could not see her again, for a couple of months he was very depressed and grieving over losing his relationship with this woman, and over two or three months he acted like he had broken up with someone or someone had died or something. I found this very strange and wondered if he was in love with her. He assured me he wasn't, and said he just missed being her friend.

This hurt me very much as I felt (a) maybe he was in love with her and didn't know it (b) it was awful that he was grieving losing her instead of being happy over gaining our marriage back. He has repeatedly told me he is not in love with her, he never was in love with her, never felt romantic feelings towards her but he has felt some deep sense of loss over the friendship element which he said he had never had before with anyone and which he said was hard to give up.

Can anyone help me with this, as this situation had really caused a problem for me emotionally. I realise he has formed a close, emotional bond with another woman and that he has grieved over losing that, but for some reason that has caused me a huge amount of pain as I couldn't imagine forming a close bond with another man when we were separated.

I'm experiencing insecurity and a feeling of no longer being as special or unique in his eyes, and I find it hard to understand why a relationship that did not include romantic love or infatuation is so hard to let go of.

This woman, interestingly, is very much like him and also a childhood abuse survivor. They had some sort of close bond and he was able to share things with her in a different way to how he does to me and I am struggling with how painful that feels.

Our relationship is wonderful, and it's obvious he loves me and dotes on me, but why do I feel so sad and rejected over this? I know I asked him to separate but I had also tried very, very hard to get him to get control of his issues before I asked for that and I was a very devoted wife and partner so it hurts me badly that any kind of bond was ever formed with anyone else :(

OP posts:
Cockenspiel · 07/06/2021 12:39

Sorry OP this all sounds very stressful.

One thing - is he pushing to have this ‘friend’ back in his life or are they 100% NC now?

blowingin · 07/06/2021 12:58

They are 100% NC now, but he is very down about it :(

OP posts:
Honeycombskl · 07/06/2021 13:15

I know other posters might disagree with this and you will likely get some telling you just to get out, etc.. I actually think you've shown yourselves to be strong enough to work through something really difficult. You've obviously got a way to go but you're going in the right direction.

He has willingly and off his own back, made steps to remove her from his life. He is clearly committed to you and your relationship. However, that doesn't mean he might not miss the friendship he had with her, although I understand that might be difficult for you, but really missing that friendship is not a reflection of his feelings for you or your relationship.
I was married before my current DP. My EXH was a wonderful guy and as someone who had been though a difficult childhood myself, he was really good at supporting me through learning to understand the and manage what had happened to me and my emotions. We were great friends but we split up because actually we weren't husband and wife in the way we should be and we weren't compatible or right for each other (we should really never have gotten married). Now I'm with someone who is perfect for me and I love to bits, but I do still miss my ex at times and our friendship. I never really grieved for it until I fell pregnant with DP's baby 2 years later. I am ecstatic to be pregnant but I knew it meant that my friendship with EXH would never be the same and I needed some time to grieve for that. That however does not mean for a second that I would want to be back there or that there is something not right between me and my DP, I absolutely adore my DP and couldn't be happier with him. Your DH seems to be in a similar position.
Your feelings are understandable but I would just try to remind yourself that he is committed to you and loves you. If you see him sad remember it's not about you or something you're not giving him, it is just someone who he relied on emotionally for a while and when you have grown up in a way that makes understanding and managing your emotions difficult, it will be tricky when that person is no longer around to be a crutch.
The thing to remember though is that someone who is a crutch isn't someone you are in love with, it's actually not a positive thing, particularly to be in a relationship with someone who is your 'crutch'. Be glad that's not the relationship he has with you, you have something far better and based on love and commitment and compatibility.

SassyPants · 07/06/2021 13:15

He's allowed to take as long as necessary to process his emotions, but he needs to do so in a way that is respectful of you, and at the moment he's failing spectacularly on that front!

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 07/06/2021 13:22

There is a thing whereby sometimes counsellors etc, are 'wounded healers'. Maybe they bonded because of their previous damage, and he is missing some of this support from another damaged person? I don't think it would be reasonable for him to carry on this friendship/emotional affair, but might it be an idea for him to go back into counselling to discuss why he is so upset about this? It's unfair on you not to adress it, as it's so distressing for you, and yanbu Flowers

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