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Strategies for dealing with confrontional neighbours?

22 replies

gardengardengarden · 07/06/2021 09:06

I will try to keep this brief! We moved into our house 5 years ago. It is very rural, with just a handful of houses on a dead-end road, so very quiet and no passing traffic. All the houses are very spaced out so no reason to fall out with anyone, you would think!

However, two of our neighbours are very unpleasant and making life difficult. One of them in particular has always been problematic. For example, pre-pandemic they used to shout at people coming to visit us (we have a shared access and visitors had got out of the car to open the gate through to our house so assumed the neighbours thought they were lost or casing the joint). They also complain that we should have our supermarket delivery during the day not in the evening, etc. However, they have got noticeably worse during lockdown and been really unpleasant on a couple of occasions. They can also be very nice when they want to be and will stop for a chat if they are in the mood, so I now try to avoid them in a non-obvious way as I don’t want to engage with them more than I have to.

Another neighbour moved in next door-but-one last summer and has also started being more and more unpleasant. It started with unsolicited advice about our garden and our animals. They then started complaining that delivery drivers are going too fast up the road – some of whom are definitely going to other houses not ours and anyway we cannot control how other people drive! Then a few weeks ago, they started complaining about our dog as he barks when people walk through the right of way that runs behind our house. They say he has bitten them several times. This is just not true as the poor dog has never bitten anyone in his life and is never in the garden on his own so I can’t see how this could have happened without my knowing about it. And if it were true, why would they not say something at the time but continue walking through our garden when there are lots of other places to walk that don’t have a secretly vicious dog lurking in them?! This latest neighbour now glares at us on the street and shakes their head when we go past.

I have tried to keep things civil throughout. I smile and wave, say good morning etc. even if they ignore me. My husband is less tolerant as he now thinks there is no point trying to keep things pleasant and it genuinely doesn’t bother him when people are actively rude to him.

So, to my question if you are still hanging on in there, that is! How would you deal with these people? I understand that they are who/how they are and we will not change them. They have called the police on each other too, so it’s not really about us at all. Our youngest DC finishes school in four years, so we just need a plan to deal with them until we can move after that. I have suggested we get a post box address elsewhere to save deliveries coming to the house and now people can come over again, we ask the kids’ friends to be dropped at the end of the road so they don’t need to drive past my neighbours and risk being yelled at. However, my husband says it’s pointless trying to keep them happy as they will find something else to complain about. I suspect he is right. Neither of us want to confront them and risk making it worse (see police comment above) but perhaps by ignoring their bullying behaviour we are encouraging them to do it more often? Both my husband and I hate confrontation though and worry how unpleasant they could get if we push back. We have had a couple of arguments between ourselves as it is really upsetting me but he says just to ignore them and not to let it spoil our time here.

I just don’t know what to do as it is such an alien way to behave from my pov – we lived in a flat for many years and there was barely ever so much as a cross word among the neighbours despite all the noise, building work etc. that can happen in a block of flats. We are lucky to live in such a lovely place but these neighbours seem to determined to spoil it for us and the other people on the road too. WWYD?

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MaMaD1990 · 07/06/2021 09:13

I'm with your husband on this one - carry on as you are and just give then a good ignoring, I wouldn't even bother with pleasantries unless they initiate if they're 'in the right mood'. You have every right to enjoy your home as you are and if you try to change anything, it's likely it'll encourage them to be more demanding about other things.

LawnFever · 07/06/2021 09:19

I wouldn’t try and placate them by not using the gate or having deliveries- they’re both perfectly normal things to do and if you start with this where will it stop? They’ll just find more and more bizarre things to complain about!

Could you just talk to them? Ask exactly what the issue is and get everything out in the open and deal with it?

They sound really hard work!

CrazyNeighbour · 07/06/2021 09:24

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JonahofArk · 07/06/2021 09:28

I would put up CCTV covering the entire house first of all-if they've lied about your dog biting them then they could start lying about other things so I would want that security.

Secondly, I agree with your husband. Don't placate and don't apologise. If they complain about delivery drivers etc then just stare at them and grey rock-say 'okay', 'oh dear' etc and then carry on with your day. Practice your resting bitch face.

Do not under any circumstances change to suit them-they are testing your boundaries at the moment and if you give them an inch they will ramp it up.

Giggorata · 07/06/2021 10:07

Couldn't put it any better than Jonah.

SuperSugar · 07/06/2021 10:22

I too would set up security cameras. But don't change a thing. Half the things are out of your control and the rest your entitled to do. Don't inconvenience yourself by getting packages delivered elsewhere or meet people at the end of the street for them. They'll do as your husband says and find something else to complain about and gives in to their pettiness.

Billandben444 · 07/06/2021 10:28

Ignore them, grow a thicker skin and be happy in your house.

Aprilwasverywet · 07/06/2021 10:31

Get a head set. Wear them whenever you might see them. Then they can clearly see you ain't fucking listening!! Do not make any alterations to your life at all for them op...

EverythingRuined · 07/06/2021 10:33

I'd carry on as you as. I'd still be polite as I find it easier than being hostile back at them.

CCTV is a good call.

RedBonnet · 07/06/2021 20:37

Our neighbour once complained about our dog barking while we were at work. I said we had her on a live Web cam (we did because she was old and I wanted to keep an eye on her) and she hadn't barked at all. He spluttered an exasperation and stormed off. He never mentioned the dog again. Neighbours will tell bare faced lies to make you feel bad. I have no idea why. CCTV and stand up to them politely but only if they confront you directly. This is what we are always advised to do with bullies.

user1471538283 · 09/06/2021 10:17

Do not speak to them again. Completely ignore them and do not change your life for them. It is unbelievable the way people go on.

Sistedtwister · 09/06/2021 12:50

My neighbour complained my dog was howling. The dog was with me at the time. She could clearly see my dog was not howling and hear the howling coming from a neighbours house on the other side.
I told my dog to stop howling bid her good evening and walked on.....

Appletreehat · 09/06/2021 13:12

My advice would be the the same as pp - ignore them. Don't keep saying sorry or trying to be polite whilst they are rude and treating you this way, they think you are easy pickings. You don't owe them anything. Don't even look in their direction. I think it would be a good idea to install a camera too - once they notice the camera, I bet they won't speak anymore crap about your dog!

Tallwhitepine · 09/06/2021 14:48

I agree with pps, stop trying to be friendly and carry on with deliveries and visitors.

I'd also take their complaints seriously. Like ask them when your dog (allegedly) bit them. What day? What time? Ask them to show you the bite. Are they sure it was your dog? And why didn't they say something at the time? Etc. Same with deliveries and visitors. Which delivery company was speeding? Whose delivery was it? People like this count on not being challenged and I have found this works and you can do it in a way that's non confrontational.
Cameras wouldn't be a bad idea either.

RickJames · 09/06/2021 19:28

We had a neighbour complain our dog barked all day. The daft sod didn't realise that DH worked from home and little dog just snoozed most of the day. Some people are just trouble makers.

Most recent was a neighbour complaining about climbing plants on a 30 metre boundary wall and then wanting a dramatic meeting about it

Notmoresugar · 09/06/2021 19:28

Tell them to get lost and stop acknowledging them.
They're bullying you because you're being a push-over. Sorry to be blunt but this is what bullies do and you're letting them get away with it each and every time!!
I would definitely invest in a camera(s) - wall mounted Ring ones are very good and not very expensive (obviously put them out of reach).
You should have stamped this out a long time ago.

RickJames · 09/06/2021 19:31

Oops.. so I just cut the plants down. No plants no drama. I'm not having it - I know that a lot of it's down to the fact that we're foreign and we bought the second biggest house on the street. Biggest house neighbours are lovely. Jealousy and hating change are a big factor in these nutty attacks out of nowhere. Stand firm OP.

Whatthefucculent · 09/06/2021 19:49

I feel for you & agree with your Dh. Ignore, don't apologise. I am having similar issues with my neighbours & the only time I bite is when she swears at my kids. As soon as my kids go out to play she starts pacing the fence. When we leave for school in the morning she stands at the front door & stares at us, when they ride their bikes out front she stands staring at them. I just make sure I'm always outside with them. We completely ignore her most of the time apart from my teen who smiles & waves. I also get constant texts from them, Ignore. The lasted demand is that we don't use our back garden between 5 -8pm daily. Crazy!

ravenmum · 09/06/2021 19:54

Put up big CCTV cameras and tell them you are recording permanently in HD and Dolby stereo to make sure the neighbourhood is safe from thieves.

MadMadMadamMim · 09/06/2021 20:00

@JonahofArk

I would put up CCTV covering the entire house first of all-if they've lied about your dog biting them then they could start lying about other things so I would want that security.

Secondly, I agree with your husband. Don't placate and don't apologise. If they complain about delivery drivers etc then just stare at them and grey rock-say 'okay', 'oh dear' etc and then carry on with your day. Practice your resting bitch face.

Do not under any circumstances change to suit them-they are testing your boundaries at the moment and if you give them an inch they will ramp it up.

This is perfect advice.

Ignore, ignore, ignore.

guesswhatteapot · 09/06/2021 20:07

My crazy neighbour reported me to the council for banging doors in the middle of the night. Turns out she has tinnitus 🙄
Ever since then it's been full on war but you have to stand your ground with people like this otherwise they'll just make your life a misery.

Cherrysoup · 09/06/2021 22:29

Ignore them and live your life. They sound bored and like they’re making up rubbish because they’re bored.

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