MARAC domestic violence

[Littlelegs2]

Hi. I know what MARAC is but I'm wondering do they have any power? My daughter has recently fleed domestic violence. She comes under borough L but has been put in emgency accommodation in borough B. But borough L still have a duty to her. Borough L have ignored social services/dv worker. There is going to be a MARAC meeting soon which will include the housing panel of borough B. I'm not sure about borough L. The DV worker has suggested my daughter transfers to borough B as borough L are not doing what they should be and basically they don't communicate so its impossible to work with them. I'm just wondering what sort of power MARAC actually have when it comes to the housing side of things?

There should be a representative from housing there who has some clout and can consider changing bandings etc based on the information shared. In my experience most professionals attending are reasonably senior and have decision making capabilities

Marac has more teeth if she is pregnant or has children. But that's because the children act kicks in. I've sat in many a Marac meeting over the years. They rely on victim engagement or professionals willingness to try and engage the victim in creative and supportive ways. To reach the Marac threshold shows the level of risk as she can be referred in without her consent as the danger is high. My advice is to work with the IDVA and any other agency offering to help. You can also ask for help form the IDVA on how you can help and support too whilst keeping yourself safe. Marac = resources above the standard so I hope your daughter can embrace those

Sorry - re housing. An IDVA can help hugely with this and ensure the local authorities get their act together

Thank you yes she has IDVA . She also has a 3 year old. She comes under heigh risk under domestic violence.

She needs to take all the advice and help she can. If she feels the risk changes or there are new behaviours from the abuser she must keep reporting to the police each and every incident. Hopefully the IDVA can help get her and her child safely housed. There are specialist housing officers trained to understand DV who should be able to help too.

@ljustlovesquirrels

She needs to take all the advice and help she can. If she feels the risk changes or there are new behaviours from the abuser she must keep reporting to the police each and every incident. Hopefully the IDVA can help get her and her child safely housed. There are specialist housing officers trained to understand DV who should be able to help too.

Yes she is definitely working with everyone. It's just were area L has ignored her and professionals we are finding it difficult to believe anything will change with area B . Like if she's moving From one council to the other that is just as bad . Also there has been a MARAC letter sent to area L housing department but we don't know what it says or if it will change anything. Guess we just have to wait.

There are also concerns that when he leaves prison he will hang around my area and then follow her home or get someone else to follow her. She can't not come to mine as I'm her only support and I have her son everyday.and she has mental health issues so its quite important to her. But he's still referring to her as his girlfriend when he talks to his probation officer so that raises concerns as well

If he is leaving prison on licence I imagine the Probation Officer would look at an exclusion zone for your home, if your daughter is a regular visitor.

@RoseRedRoseBlue

If he is leaving prison on licence I imagine the Probation Officer would look at an exclusion zone for your home, if your daughter is a regular visitor.

Hes not the sort of person to take notice and if he cant ho there due to a tag or similar he will get someone else to do it fir him. He already found out where she was once . Council put her in a risk area . And he wrote tibher from prison. We don't know if he found out via court papers or if it was that Someone he knows saw her. With following her from my address I guess we could say what if all day long I guess we have to see.

Well, if he is given an exclusion zone and breaches it, he will get recalled to custody. Getting a third party involved makes it more complicated, but most Restraining Orders can be worded to address this. I would also be looking at a licence breach under the ‘good behaviour’ condition if this happened.

I really hope that is the case. I have read so many times how nothing is done when people breach orders . He even contacted her from prison when there's a restraining order. Nothing was done.

Has she been to MARAC before? The meeting is wholly focused on risk and risk management which will include him having previously breached exclusion orders/bail conditions. Is this MARAC being called by borough B or L, which might influence the situation re housing, as would her child being in nursery in a particular area. MARAC is a pretty good forum for risk management, chaired by people who really have a good understanding of domestic abuse and associated risk - it’s a good thing that she’s been referred, given her situation.

@Jellycatspyjamas

Has she been to MARAC before? The meeting is wholly focused on risk and risk management which will include him having previously breached exclusion orders/bail conditions. Is this MARAC being called by borough B or L, which might influence the situation re housing, as would her child being in nursery in a particular area. MARAC is a pretty good forum for risk management, chaired by people who really have a good understanding of domestic abuse and associated risk - it’s a good thing that she’s been referred, given her situation.

I think this is her 3rd marac. But each has been under a different area because they kept moving her. This MARAC is being called under area B. Grandson has been offered a nursery place for September. He should have gone to a nursery before hand but its been impossible with what's going on. But I don't think they have to take nursery into consideration anyway as he's not compulsory school age. Not sure what influence MARAC from area B would have on area L. I thought the point of MARAC was so things dud not slip through the net. Should not matter about borough especially if they agree the owe a duty. Area L already put her I'm danger by putting her in a risk area. You would think at that point they would stop ignoring . But nope they still do.

A Restraining Order breach is a criminal event in itself, so it should be pursued by the Police. There are also mechanisms to ban contact from prison. I certainly know that when I managed high risk DV cases, I was all over it and didn’t give them an inch!

I don't really know what's happening with the breach it was a few months back now. She handed in all the proof to police . Heard nothing for a while . Then they contacted her about 3 weeks ago. Now nothing again. He's realise date is mid month. I know he's not allowed to go back to his own place hes got to stay at some kind of place that gives counselling and stuff. I don't know what it is just what my daughter said . There's been some mention of the freedom programme for my daughter but nothing seems to come of it.

The freedom programme has its place but with high risk DV and stalking risk she needs a more personalised and intensive input. She should absolutely do the Freedom Programme if it's offered but that alone is not enough given her level of risk and that of your grandson

@ljustlovesquirrels

The freedom programme has its place but with high risk DV and stalking risk she needs a more personalised and intensive input. She should absolutely do the Freedom Programme if it's offered but that alone is not enough given her level of risk and that of your grandson

Yes I think she needs to take what's ever offered .

Sorry to bombard you with questions, as I don’t want to invade your privacy, but when you talk about this guy having to stay in a certain place on release are you referring to an Approved Premises? If yes, I am wondering if your daughter also has a Victim Liaison Officer to keep her up to date?

I'm not sure if she does . I think its just her dv worker that tells her stuff. And I think the dv worker is in contact with his probation officer. Who also says that's he still referres to my daughter as his girl friend.

Well, he can refer to her however he likes, but it doesn’t change a thing. Don’t let it upset you as it should all be noted and used to form part of his risk assessment.

@RoseRedRoseBlue

Well, he can refer to her however he likes, but it doesn’t change a thing. Don’t let it upset you as it should all be noted and used to form part of his risk assessment.

Not upset by it. But its just a bit freaky and yes I'm sure they will as they would not mention it otherwise. I'm going to be so paranoid when he's out I'm going to shit myself every time she leaves the house

I completely understand your feelings, but the best thing you can do is be strong for her. Panic is infectious! I really hope all goes well and if I can answer any more questions please let me know 🙂

@RoseRedRoseBlue

I completely understand your feelings, but the best thing you can do is be strong for her. Panic is infectious! I really hope all goes well and if I can answer any more questions please let me know 🙂

Yeah I would never tell her that. I have told her if he ever tries to follow her to come back tp my house. To never lead him to her place . Walk past it if she has to. And if he ever follows her on to a bus not to get off in a quite area. Anyway thank you. You have been really helpful 🙂

🌷🌷 all the best!