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Why can’t my ex just shut up!

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Jeeznotyouagain · 04/06/2021 14:47

Long time lurker but just recently started posting Blush

I need some outside perspective as mine is, well, clouded with emotions (and not nice ones).
I’ll try to keep it as brief as I can as to not drip feed but I may fail miserably so bear with me!

My exH and I have been separated for 6 years, divorced 2. We had a DS together who lives permanently with me as I have sole custody (more to that later).

Our DS never saw us being together as we separated when he was basically a toddler. My exH is not a bad person per se (although the bar is very low on this) but he has put me through so much shit it’s unreal. He ruined my life and I am still in therapy to make sense of how have I allowed him to happen to me. Married in haste, repent at leisure is basically the story of my life with him.
Yes it’s all my fault for ignoring all his red flags, worse than a soviet meeting.
Yes, I made excuses to his appalling behaviour every single time (“he is tired!” “Noooo he is not rude it’s just that he is shy” “you got to know him to fully appreciate him” “he is a bit closed up” “I think he may have undiagnosed autism” etc). All my friends and family told me, gently and not so gently, that he was bad news but I was too dumb and in love to engage my brain…

Anyhow.
The icing on my shit marriage cake happened when one fine day the police in bulletproof stormed in my house with a search and seize warrant - my ex has been accused of possessing indecent images of minors. He didn’t get arrested only because the policeman checking his laptop realised that yes he may have downloaded stuff but, to be fair, he had his laptop stuffed with tv series, movies, tv programmes etc - for the record, we had full Netflix and virgin Media subscription at the time.
Long story short, I booted him out as soon as the police left, changed the locks, he cried that he was about to kill himself, tried not to yell “if you don’t kill yourself I will!” But called the police to report this potential suicide threat.
Eventually they helped him, gp referred him to a psychotherapist or something like that.
Now, my exH is the type of person who loves nothing more than a pity party. He also needs to be more sick than you. If you tell him you have a headache, let’s say, he’ll immediately tell you he has been having a migraine since 3 weeks ago, his neck is in pain, he may lose a limb and may have lung cancer.
He didn’t like that I was (really) suicidal for 3 years due to post natal depression (he didn’t believe it is something it exists but rather that I was moaning and using this poor excuse to be unsympathetic with aaaaall his illnesses and struggles etc).
Anyway, so off he goes to the therapist and he tells that he is severely depressed because I broke his heart ( - for info - he was cheating on me with more than one colleague before I pull the plug, but told me it was just work banter… yeah right) and because I was not having sex with him he became addicted to porn Hmm and to downloading stuff from the web HmmConfused.
If anything else came out of the meeting I don’t know, all I know is that the therapist rang SS and SS rang me straight away “to help me cope with this situation”.

Unfortunately I must have a different idea of help as they grilled me and my son for 4 months, trying to catch the both of us saying something / doing something that they could regard as “we need to remove DS”. They failed but they made me sign a contract with them where they imposed I would only allow DS to see his dad under my supervision (or of someone else I trust) if and when I wish for this meetings to be held pending review after a sentence is issued.

Now, this was 5 years ago, no sentence, no trial, no news from anyone. We are not in the U.K. anymore e neither is my ex but we live very very far away (plane journey, to give an idea). His choice not mine.

Our DS is a brilliant boy but he has his own struggles: he likes his routine, he takes everything face value (if you joke he gets offended as he doesn’t get it, for example) and he had lots of insecurities and needs reassurance. One thing he struggles with is if you promise something and don’t keep the promise - something neither me nor my partner (who my son regards as his dad more than his birth-dad) ever do.

My ex-h has been told million of times to not promise shit to DS if he can’t then keep it. Yet he does it all the time. He knows full well that he can’t get our Ds to spend holidays with him or whatever, and yet put in our child’s head that he’ll take him here, there and everywhere.
Latest, DS one day begged me and begged me cause he told his dad Angry that I’m going to take him travelling to a city he absolutely adores and his dad said “ask your mum the dates and I’ll come too or better I’ll take you myself”.

Ok, my ex H and I do not communicate unless it’s for super important stuff regarding our DS (such as sign this form / document etc) but why the bloody twat can’t just zip his mouth and text me first “hey DS told me this what do you think if….?”.
I had to be the bad guy telling DS no, because covid and then we will decide last minute and other pathetic excuses (and then I reminded him to not tell his dad about our stuff).

I’m tired of having to mother my ex and tell him “stop doing this” cause he can’t engage his brain anyway (though I doubt he has one), and I’m tired of keeping my son in the dark about what a moron of a father he has because, despite him being a turd, DS has a right to have a relationship with him… so I guess my question is:

How can I help my son understand that his dad made some very poor life choices and hence why he is so far from his life and please take what he says with a pinch of salt as it may never happen?

I love my son to bits but sometimes I wish I never met his dad….!

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anunexaminedlife · 04/06/2021 19:18

So did he download images of child sexual abuse?

ChristmasFluff · 04/06/2021 20:11

FYI, your ex is a bad person. Per se. Probably a paedophile too.

I don't understand why you cannot see why SS 'grilled' you so much. For all they know, you were enabling a paedophile.

You still could be.

Cut him off and let him take you to court for access. Your son doesn't need to know his dad until he is not a child. Your ex is probably a plane ride away to avoid prosecution, BTW.

blissfulllife · 04/06/2021 20:34

Cut him off

ThisIsStartingToBoreMe · 04/06/2021 20:59

Yes i'm confused too. Is your ex a peodophile or not, ie, did he download images of child sexual abuse?

Jeeznotyouagain · 04/06/2021 21:52

Ok let me clarify something:

  • I do not know whether he did that or not. Police never contacted me, the investigation finished, he got his laptop back but nothing more happened so I am as clueless as you! However police told me it was not sexual abuse with minor but just involving minors - I asked clarifications and said “it could be anything from children to underage girls”. Unfortunately, you’d think they would have talked to me or keep me in the loop, but as ex wife i would of violated his privacy (?).
Mind you, when he was suicidal and a policeman came round to explain what happened and heard I booted the ex out, the policeman begged me to have him back telling me “madam the law says it’s innocent until proven guilty”. I looked at him like he had 3 heads! Are you serious???? I don’t care if you are innocent until proven guilty, we are not talking about having stolen a sandwich in tesco cause you were broke and hungry! So basically it’s like nothing ever happened. I suspect they didn’t find anything relevant or else by now there would have been a trial and a sentence?
  • I appreciate SS were trying to see whether I was enabling him or not; however, when they called me they didn’t say “we need to investigate you too” (fair enough!) but “we will support you as we know you and your son are victims and we want to make sure you will be ok”; however, instead of grilling him, I got treated like if I were the one committing a crime and made to feel it was all my fault;
I was distraught. I was angry. I was absolutely a mess at the thought of him causing this shitstorm “cause he had to binge on Games of Thrones”. I would have love that support cause yes, I indeed was a victim of that moron, and I would have loved to be directed to I don’t know, a charity or someone to talk to.
  • @ChristmasFluff how can I still enable him if I do not live with him since 5 and a half years ago (and now we life a fiery long plane journey away from each other), I divorced him and I barely communicate with him (and I only allow monitored FaceTime call with DS)?
  • I already cut him lose. I cut him lose before shit hit the fan, let alone afterwards. I have him blocked on every social media (obviously my son has none), including his parents and all his relatives. He can only text me or email me and only if it’s something related to DS. I cannot withhold information such as where DS goes to school, I cannot make him disappear cause again, no trial so no sentence so he is technically innocent till otherwise.
The thought of him makes me sick. However I have been told I cannot prevent him to have a relationship with his son (but supervised) and I want to manage my son’s expectation and, eventually, the truth on why daddy lives million miles away and he cannot just take you here and there as he say. That is my concern, he can fuck off a cliff for all I care and, to be honest, he would probably make my life easier!
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ThisIsStartingToBoreMe · 04/06/2021 21:55

Can't you just go no contact with him? He seems to be taking up a huge amount of your thinking time - imagine what else you could achieve if you gave it as much attention and thought as your giving your seedy no good ex.

Jeeznotyouagain · 04/06/2021 22:00

@ThisIsStartingToBoreMe I know. I can’t go totally fully NC as for legal reason (he is still DS parent!) I need his parental consent and his signature on stuff. And I cannot leave him to interact with DS alone.

And yes I still do hate him a lot for what he did.
And I’m still in therapy (which has been amazing) because…. Well I still have to manage the shit he has caused whilst he lives a perfectly normal life!

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thoselinesjustgetfainter · 04/06/2021 22:09

Assuming this is a vaguely real situation...get some good legal advice about how to remove whatever remains of this man's rights and responsibilities to your child.

You have full custody? That's for a reason.

ThisIsStartingToBoreMe · 04/06/2021 22:12

I need his parental consent and his signature on stuff.

Yes, but you don't need that very often do you? Maybe once a year? Just contact him when you need that, why all the drama?

kiddo5467 · 04/06/2021 23:05

If you're legally not allowed to leave DS alone with him, des done something seriously wrong and they have serious concerns. That's all you need to know.

kiddo5467 · 04/06/2021 23:06

*he's done something

kiddo5467 · 04/06/2021 23:07

I really don't understand this. When the police raided your house in bullet proof vests they found indecent images but he also had films and tv subscriptions etc so decided it was ok??

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