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What is emotional abuse?

30 replies

Elf1990 · 27/05/2021 12:48

Hi everyone, just looking for some opinions or even experiences that may be similar to mine. It's a bit long winded but might as well share. I've been in a relationship with my fiance for 13 years and we have 3 children under 10 and we bought a house together in 2018. There have been red flags from the beginning but I'm 31 now and for some reason I just feel like my eyes are actually open to how I have been living for so long.
I finally realised things weren't normal last week when I thought how I hadn't had a single friend call to the house ever as I always had to ask my fiance and he would say no, then I said feck it and I invited a friend over and I was genuinely terrified to tell him that I pretended it was organised last minute, she was here less than an hour and he was texting me asking when she was leaving and then he came downstairs mouthing behind her back saying "when is she going" and I never felt so uncomfortable I just thought I actually can't do it anymore, it was so embarrassing. The other side of this is his friends and family can call and his mother has her own key and calls twice a day, if my parents call he doesn't even come downstairs to say hi.

There are also things like he said he and his mother discussed it and I cant go back to work after my maternity leave as he can't look after 3 children even though I only work part time. I've never been allowed to have a say in things when we bought our house he brought his mother to all th viewings, same goes for picking a wedding venue, picking our children's names, I go along too but my opinion doesn't matter at all.

He has a very high up job and earns a lot and he has never given me money, I work part time and do the food shop, pay smaller bills in the house and everything the children need, one day I genuinely had nothing in the bank and had no baby food so I used his bank card without asking I literally bought one bag of nappies and one box of baby milk and I couldn't sleep because I knew he'd find out and when he noticed he rang me and said if I ever touched his bank card again he would go mental. He does bodybuilding and I have to pay for all his protein things and if there's ever anything missing from the list he will not stop giving out to me about how ridiculous and it's a joke and if I left an hour earlier to do the shopping I could have got it.

I have never met anyone he works with or some of his friends, he says hes embarrassed that I work in retail and because theres a bit of height difference between us I can't go anywhere with him unless in heels, he wouldn't dream of holding my hand and he drops me to the door of say the cinema or restaurant and comes in separately, he has often passed me on his lunch break with work colleagues and pretend he hasn't seen me.

He texts me twice a day firstly what he wants for dinner and secondly what time he wants it for and he has to have it in the living room by himself no kids in there, if theres a match on I am upstairs with the children, once I walked in and sat down next to him and he just shouted that I was coming in on purpose to annoy him so most nights I sit in the kitchen on my own. I know it sounds silly but he has never even made me a cup of tea, I put all 3 kids to bed every night, do his dishes and he will come out make coffee for himself and walk back out. If his family call he will make tea/coffee for everyone except me. I have done all childminding and night feeds with all our children.

He is quite critical of my appearance he has said jeans don't suit me only dresses, I dyed my hair brown and he said ffs I told you I only like it blonde why do you keep dying it brown. My weight is a big thing, I've never been bigger than a size 6 and he regularly asks how much I weigh, I had a baby 6 weeks ago and I had a pizza at the weekend and he said jesus the pressure is on for the wedding I thought you'd be on the salads if you want to look your best.

I asked him to mind the baby last week so I could bring my mum grocery shopping and he said I didn't give him enough notice and the argument got so bad he smashed my phone.he keeps calling our house his house and when we bought it he said because I'm not paying the mortgage I had to sign a contract saying I only get 20 percent of the sale of our house if we split up. I know I should never have signed it but I am so so beat down mentally that I feel like the most weak minded person in the world, I feel embarrassed in myself and humiliated.

He has cheated on and off and I always take him back, he will say things like sorry but I have to tell you I was thinking about some woman from work during sex, or I feel like I have to tell you I was looking at a woman earlier and I hit a footpath when driving because I was looking too much. I tried ending the relationship but he won't move out, he has moved out before but kept his key and would just call at any hour and stay for hours, he is such an angry person that something like us making noise when he's playing his playstation would set him off. I feel like I'm so tired of arguing or defending myself that I barely even talk anymore, to anyone, I just don't have it in me to hold a conversation with someone because he says I embarrass myself by saying stupid things all the time. I rang my mum to see if I could move home temporarily but she said no it's my own fault for getting into this situation when she warned me years ago to leave him. She said I just have to go through with the wedding and accept that this is what ive chosen. I genuinely don't know what to do.

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seensome · 27/05/2021 13:00

Good lord! I'm so sorry you are going through this, sounds horrendous, yes it's emotional abuse and extremely controlling, you are entitled to see and wear who you like and where, you should also have equal input into opinions of choosing the house.
The only way out is to put an end to this and not to allow him to control you, start from now, just do something without asking his permission. Call Womens aid for advice and if you have anyone to stay with, then do so, I know it's a scary thought but being on your own will bring you your independence and make you stronger. Thanks

Thatsmycupoftea · 27/05/2021 13:13

Download the bright sky app if you can. It will guide you to support. If you can't do this. can you reach out to womens aid or to your parents. Be careful.
Good luck

bunny85 · 27/05/2021 13:19

Oh my God....
Please please PLEASE don't marry this man. Don't go ahead with the wedding. Try and have another word with your mum, say you realised she was right and ask her for help, if not maybe a friend or anyone. Contact woman's aid. This is so so bad what he's doing to you and you haven't been able to see any of this abuse for such a long time. What an evil bastard, this is so incredibly sad. You have to leave him.

Wherediditgo · 27/05/2021 13:19

This is abuse. Plain as day. Cannot be excused or dressed up as anything else. You need to leave sweetheart Flowers
You don’t deserve this!!

Wherediditgo · 27/05/2021 13:22

Seek advice on how to leave him safely from Women’s aid and have a plan in place as well

DisgruntledPelican · 27/05/2021 13:22

This might be one of the most upsetting stories I’ve ever seen on MN. He’s disgusting.

Contact women’s aid. Please.

HollowTalk · 27/05/2021 13:31

You need to contact women's aid immediately. You can't even think of marrying him. He's so abusive.

What are your parents and other family like? Did you learn to accept bad treatment and lack of boundaries there?

Happinesscomesfromwithin · 27/05/2021 13:36

Sorry to say this, but it doesn't sound like he likes you very much at all! He's a douche.. end it.

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 27/05/2021 13:42

He sounds appalling but I have to say, if the wedding is imminent then DO marry him, so that at least you will be entitled to his assets. I wouldn’t usually be so heartless but honestly this cock deserves it. I imagine he’s too clued up and realises this which is why you’re still not married after 13 years and 3 kids. However if his income is all legit and not squirrelled away cash in hand, you should still get decent maintenance for the DC. Although he sounds the type to try and go for 50/50 to get out of paying you anything and then he’ll get his mum up look after them.

You need some proper legal advice on where you stand having been coerced into signing away your house. You also need to speak to women’s aid as they will help you with a plan to escape as you’re so deeply mired in this fog that you will struggle to get out on your own. Please keep posting here as many MNers have been through similar and come out the other end to tell the tale. Flowers

Ruminating2020 · 27/05/2021 14:58

OP, I am so saddened for you as he is just so awful to you.

He is extremely controlling by isolating you from friends and support in real life, he won't let you spend money on groceries, he is telling you how he wants you to dress, controlling what you eat, telling you what you should and shouldn't do with your life and make you fit it around his career. He is blaming you for his cheating and belittling you, telling you that you embarrass yourself by what you say, but he just doesn't want you to have a voice. He is a bully and wants to shut you down.

What about you? Has he thought about what you want? What about your feelings? What about who you are? You are losing yourself to be his nothing. You are worth more than this, and you can absolutely live without this sorry excuse of a man.

An authentic, respectful and loving relationship is between two equals, but he doesn't see you as an equal, he sees you at best as a pet who has to play fetch with him.

He is emotionally and psychologically abusive OP and there is absolutely no way he will ever make you happy. Men like him do not change.

Please plan your departure, contact Woman's Aid, find a friend to stay with, anything is better than being enslaved to this person.

All the best.

Daisyroselondon · 27/05/2021 15:42

All great advice above as to next steps. I just wanted to give you a virtual hug and say you deserve more than this. Please leave him

TokyoSushi · 27/05/2021 15:48

Oh OP this is so sad, it's absolutely abuse and it doesn't have to be like this. please contact women's aid, if only to talk it through in the first instance and see what your options are.

Justcallmebebes · 27/05/2021 16:25

This is truly awful. For the love of God get yourself and your poor kids away from this man. Your children will be damaged if you stay in this dynamic.

Wiser souls will give you good advice as to how to get away, please take it.

Sending love x

Aknifewith16blades · 27/05/2021 18:36

OP Coercive control (and that is a shocking level of coercive and financial control) is a crime. You poor thing, having to deal with all of this.

Call Woman's Aid and get the support you need to make life better.

LemonLemonLemon · 27/05/2021 19:08

OP you sound so sad and beaten down. I can only echo what others have said above. This isn’t how life should be.

Please find the strength to call women’s aid and get yourself some help. You sound like you pretty much do everything anyway, so you’d manage fine on your own, and eventually you can be happy and relaxed.

Your mum gave terrible advice, do not marry this man - you deserve better. Do you have a friend you can reach out to?

Bookishnerd · 27/05/2021 19:13

Hey OP

Others have said this better than me, so I'll be short and sweet. You are worth so much more than this. It's abuse. Please contact Women's Aid or a local domestic abuse charity.

They will help you.

I wanted to come on and tell you that:
You are enough and you are not alone Thanks

Tulipsandviolets · 27/05/2021 21:36

Omg what a vile nasty piece of work. Sounds awful so sorry you're having to live like this OP, you need to leave him for your own mental health and growth. Without him your self esteem and happiness would return.Please seek professional help and try talking with your mother again.Flowers

vampirethriller · 27/05/2021 21:45

Jesus. That's truly horrible. Please don't stay with this utter cunt.
I've been helped by Women's Aid and they're brilliant, please call them and talk to someone x

JesusIsAnyNameFree · 27/05/2021 22:04

Oh OP, this is truly shocking to read. I'm so sorry he's doing this to you.

Listen to everyone else and get in touch with Women's Aid. You need to get away from this monster.

Sandra15 · 28/05/2021 00:45

He's a thick, stupid, moronic neanderthal thug and you really need to escape.

ChocOrange1 · 28/05/2021 05:34

He sounds appalling but I have to say, if the wedding is imminent then DO marry him, so that at least you will be entitled to his assets

I don't think this is good advice. OP is in an abusive relationship. You have to be married at least a year to be eligible for divorce, and the process is ongoing and arduous - it doesn't sound like the man is going to make it easy for her, I'm sure he will push back at every turn. It could take years. She needs to get this man out of her life as soon as possible, not deliberately drag herself through a long very stressful divorce.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 28/05/2021 06:36

Do not marry him under any circumstances
Your mother was wrong here in that you have to marry him and this is the life you have chosen. I am sorry she was not more supportive. As the other responders have advised you need to call Women’s Aid (you can go to Boots and ask for Ani - action needed immediately) and use them to escape your abuser. This is also no life for your kids to be seeing either, they cannot afford to grow up seeing you as their
mother bring abused by their dad.

Sunflower1970 · 28/05/2021 08:09

I feel so sad for you. You are worth so much more. I don’t know what you should do but sending love

Sally2791 · 28/05/2021 08:17

I can only echo what others have said, this is horrendous abuse and an appalling situation for children to grow up. Please get help from women’s aid, police, friends to get away. Do not marry him to access finances, that will take years.

firstimemamma · 28/05/2021 08:17

I grew up in a house like what you describe op and it was truly awful. My mother never left the abusive partner and my mental health was in pieces for years and years. I cut off contact with my mother many years ago and rebuilt my life - things are great now - but nothing can change the fact that my childhood was shit when I should've been protected from all the anger. Don't be like my mother - leave and rebuild your life. You have to do it for your children. Thanks