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Is she a narcissist? How to deal with her behaviour and stay sane?

10 replies

PigBiscuit · 26/05/2021 23:04

I have a relative who I find very trying. I can't cut her out, it will cause a huge rift within my family but equally her behaviour is having a really negative impact on me.
-She moans about everything! I mean everything. It feels like she never has a good word to say about anything and it is incredibly draining.
-People do so much for her, she just wants more and more from them. It feels like she doesn't appreciate anything anyone does for her. She then complains about people if they won't do more and picks fault with everything they have done. (I don't do stuff for her for this reason)
-If she does something for you, you automatically owe her a favour!

-she slags everyone off behind their back and tries to get you to join in. She will then use anything you said against other people in arguments "well PigBiscuit even said you are rude"

-she is a martyr. She acts as though she has the most difficult life, that everything is so hard. That there isn't a minute of time for herself. She works full time. yadda yadda........so does everyone else. Life is busy! Pick your battles. Also as mentioned above, she gets loads of help from various family members which she is very lucky to have.
-She is very manipulative. When you say you can't do something (ie spend time with her) she has a very sneaky way of making it happen and as if by magic gets her own way.

  • she can't make decisions for herself. She must call everyone and ask their opinion on the smallest of things. Once she has my opinion she will move onto the next person. We all usually end up saying the same thing, half the time she doesn't even take the advice. Some of the questions she asks are utterly ridiculous, its like an attention seeking thing or she wants and excuse to talk to you ie she is bored. She doesn't like being on her own.
  • She will call multiple times a day and gets cross when people don't answer their phones. There is a reason we don't answer her calls but she never seems to cotton on!
  • She belittles other people and makes really mean comments to their face and says its because she has the balls to say what no one else will.
-she will rarely own up to making a mistakes and apologise. When she does it usually because there is irrefutable evidence to show she is in the wrong. One family member has started corresponding with her by email just so she has back up to prove things. -She is controlling!

Everything I have written above is very negative and I feel quite guilty but I needed to get it out, she isn't a horrible person, she can be really fun to be around and is kind and generous and has lots of really good traits! She is just such hard work in the other respects that I have mentioned above.

How do you deal with someone like that when you have no choice? I don't want to cut her out, but I would like to take back control and set some much firmer boundaries I am just not sure how.

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billyt · 30/05/2021 17:46

I wouldn't put up with this shit just to keep family happy.

Life's too fucking short.

They're probably scared that the crap you're putting up with will be down to them to deal with

HollowTalk · 30/05/2021 17:50

Back off from her, never answer your phones, never ever ask for any favours, don't do any favours either - there's nothing else you can do if you want to stay sane!

slfk3 · 30/05/2021 17:53

Sounds like a covert narcissist...read about them specifically and see if it fits.

redastherose · 30/05/2021 18:01

You don't have to put up with this behaviour if you don't want to.

  1. Never accept any help from her so she can't say you are ungrateful;
  2. Never answer your phone during working hours and tell X that it's been company policy;
  3. If she rings you for advice just say you don't know and make an excuse to ring off (Dinner on stove/kids in the bath/someone at the door);
  4. If you see her and she slags someone off to you don't engage with her, say something nice about that person or just say you don't like talking behind other people's backs and don't engage; and finally
  5. Never ever agree with any spiteful or nasty remarks she makes to you about anyone you know. Literally just get up and leave, make a cup of tea, change the subject or whatever. If someone will talk about others to you they will talk about you to others.

You have to do all of this consistently but once you stop engaging with her you will stop giving her the response she wants and she will eventually get the message that you're not playing that game anymore.

Umberellatheweatha · 30/05/2021 18:03

You can't set boundaries for a narcissist (it's basically like waving a red flag at a bull). You set boundaries for yourself and how you will allow other people to treat you.

If people treat you in an unacceptable way, remove them from your life. Yes, there will likely be a cost. But at least you have control. If you keep them in your life, narcissists will always find a way to control everything. And that will always spell and things for you. The only thing you will be able to predict is that they will be unpredictable.

Do whatever it takes to remove toxic people from your life.

Umberellatheweatha · 30/05/2021 18:03

*spell bad things

katy1213 · 30/05/2021 18:42

I wouldn't engage with her; be distantly polite if you meet at her family events but no phone calls, no contact apart from that.

Lurcherloves · 30/05/2021 21:13

Has this been made worse because of the pandemic? I’ve noticed in my family members that their tricky personality traits have been more acute at times.
She needs to change her thinking maybe send her links to positive podcasts etc

PinkSatinMoon · 30/05/2021 23:24

Smile and say... No that doesn't work for me.

Avoid and disengage any contact whilst smiling.

🌸

EmmaOvary · 31/05/2021 08:47

Yes. Sounds like a narcissist. Nasty pieces of work. She won't change, though.

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