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Please advise about friends domestic abuse living situation

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Falaffeleybollocks · 24/05/2021 07:51

Sorry in a rush before work but would really appreciate advise on how to support a friend.
I had thought that she must be in a coercively controlling relationshhip for a while and then on sat night she said the following to me for the first time -

  • she has no independent access to any money
  • he insists on sex every night, which she doesn't really want but enjoys by the end, she says
  • he insists on holding her all night even though she doesn't sleep well
  • he wakes her up every morning at about 4am to talk about his stresses
  • he dismisses her emotions and never takes any boundaries seriously
  • she has no hobbies or interests outside the hone and the only thing that she has autonomy over by her own admission is exercise and food intake
  • she has 6 children and a very busy job which she is constantly encouraged by her h to progress in to reach a point of prestige despite h being extremely wealthy by inheritance meaning they do not need to work. She has literally nothing left to give to her kids or herself and its awful to see how her kids are suffering - all are anxious and underweight and I know there has been a history of social care referrals.

I have left a dv relationship and experienced cognitive dissonance and the worst time of my life leaving the relationship. I could see when I suggested things did not sound okay for her she was obviously defensive and while I tried to me tactful I was horrified by what she told me, including some of the behaviors her younger children at showing which are quite extreme, mainly becuase they are often unsupervised.

What impacts this as well is that her job involves being in a position of considerable authority in relation to the care of highly vulnerable children and young adults. I cannot say any futhett what her job is, of course.

I know that her professional life is none of my business so only saying for context that I think things are going very wrong for herself, her children and her decision making, as well as her judgement of risk.

What if anything can I do? I know listening ear, don't get involved, but I am really concerned that she has no idea she is clearly a financially and emotionally abusive relationship, potentially a sexually abusive relationship and in my experice of my own marriage if any resistance is presented this becomes verbal and physical abuse. Any advice welcomed.

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Falaffeleybollocks · 24/05/2021 07:59

Just to say - she expressed that she does not want sex every night, nor that she wants to work as hard as she does, but that her h 'won't let her stop' Sad

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Falaffeleybollocks · 24/05/2021 08:00

And in relation to sex, that she has learnt over the years that its quicker and easier to get on with it rathwr than say no as he insists Sad

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Falaffeleybollocks · 24/05/2021 08:01

Anyway I can't check again till later as at work now but all advice welcomed Star

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Umberellatheweatha · 24/05/2021 09:27

Didnt like to read and run but my initial thought was if she has six kids then she will be entitled to a ton of dosh from the state if she needs it (not sure if theres a capp now right enough?). She could likely get by on benefits and child support if she turfed him out. She needs to look into what she is entitled to. Speak to the council, citizens advice and womens aid ect...

idontlikealdi · 24/05/2021 09:30

All you can do is listen, and advice her to leave.

Gucci1961 · 24/05/2021 09:32

She's going to need Women's Aid help to get out of this I suspect.

Blackcountrychik · 24/05/2021 09:37

As pp suggests Women’s Aid . Freedom programme but ultimately all you can do is support her because in the first instance she needs to see herself this isn’t right . You need to talk to her gently and calmly . Don’t put anymore pressure on her than she’s got already coz at the end of the day this has to be her decision and she won’t leave until she feels ready , if at all .
You will probably get cut off as a friend if you go in too quickly and she needs your support . The fact she’s opened up to you is a massive start , she obviously sees something isn’t right.

She needs a domestic violence course / support group but right now she just needs you to listen to her and be there without judgement .

Falaffeleybollocks · 24/05/2021 12:07

Okay I appreciate that. I have to tread carefully with her in relation to the support I say I am willing to offer as I find that she will often ask for child care favours which are just too much for me. If I leave things woolly like 'I'm always here for you' then I'm opening myself up to non boundaried requests ie school night sleepovers.

I feel for her so much as I think she is genuinely more at risk of placing herself in harms way, ie having an accident to get out of the situation rather than seeing that leaving and sorting the split through the courts would be a possibility for her. He is a high powered narcissistic with anxiety problems and I think she is a prop for him. Sorry I'm rambling but 2 of my children are the same age as hers (both best friends) so offering support and then drifting away from weekly interactions does not seem possible for me. Of course I want the best for hers and the kids welfare but I am really struggling with maintaining boundaries and appropriate distance from the family Sad

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