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Am I in an abusive relationship?

20 replies

PerplexedWife · 20/05/2021 14:55

I have name changed for this because I feel really stupid to even be asking this question but I have become very unhappy in my marriage during lockdown and am starting to wonder if I am being emotionally abused? My partner lost his job 18 months ago and it upset him, naturally, and it was a tough time for him mentally (and for us both financially) until he found another job. I should explain that I am an older woman, in receipt of a small disability pension for a physical disability and I'm only able to work from home to due my health. I earn very little, not for want of trying because I work long hours but I've not got any special talents that would enable me to earn a lot, sadly. My husband is also older (early 60s) and his earnings are now less than half of what they were in his peak earnings period but we manage.

What I have noticed since he's been at home full time (he's only been into his workplace two or three times since the first lockdown) is that he has begun controlling everything I do. He tells me when to go to bed, for example, based on how tired he thinks I am. He has taken over the cooking and although I don't want to overeat (because my consultant has told me to lose weight) I've started to notice that he ladles more food on to my plate than his, even when I ask for a small portion. I always thank him for making my meals but he gets upset if I don't finish them, even though I've asked for less than he's given me. I've suggested that we save some to heat up the next day but he won't do that. He even controls when I eat breakfast which is normally only toast or cereal and I can quite easily help myself to these. He gets upset if I get up earlier than him and want to eat before he's ready.

The final straw for me was two weeks ago when I had to go into hospital for an operation which didn't got well and he told me that I was wasting his time and that I was always causing a drama and making everything about me. I honestly did nothing to make the operation go wrong, I wasn't even awake in theatre, but he is blaming me for having to have it done again and wasting some more of his time. Is this normal or is he being abusive? Thanks for reading. There's lots more but I think I've given the gist of the problem.

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Ruminating2020 · 20/05/2021 14:59

Sorry OP, but he is being controlling. It's good that he does the cooking but he shouldn't be telling you what, when and where to eat.

His lack of empathy and blaming you when you had the operation are not signs of a respectful partner either.

PerplexedWife · 20/05/2021 15:03

Thank you. I am getting so stressed living like this. We've been married a long time and he has worked away for most of it whilst I worked part-time, raised our children, looked after the house etc but he's just sort of taken over everything now, without even asking me. The only thing I am still allowed to do is the laundry and feed the dog. I just don't know how this happened to me after a lifetime of independence?

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OnTheHuntForAHome · 20/05/2021 15:08

Gosh OP, you are definitely in a coercive controlling relationship which as you probably know is abusive.

Have you tried talking to him about it? Has he always had a controlling element to his personality or did this start once he lost his job?

RatherBeRiding · 20/05/2021 15:09

No its very, very far from normal and yes it is abusive.

What form does him getting upset take? Shouting? Sulking? Banging around? What would happen if you turned round and told him that you were going to go to bed and get up when YOU felt like it, and that you were tired of him taking over your life?

Tossblanket · 20/05/2021 15:12

Wow.

So so far from normal.

katy1213 · 20/05/2021 15:22

I'd let rip at him loudly and tell him to fuck off. You'll go to bed and get up when you want to - you'll serve your own food and eat as much or as little as you like - and you'll cook at least some of the time. You don't need micro-management or any management at all - but he can only get away with this if you allow it.
But do you really want to spent your retirement years with this man? Wouldn't you be happier without him?

PerplexedWife · 20/05/2021 15:25

I feel like a boiled frog really. I didn't notice the water getting warmer and warmer. I think he's probably always been very strong-minded but he wasn't able to control what I did because he worked away so much and I was able to do what I wanted. I have never taken advantage of him, or at least I don't think so i.e. I rarely spend money on myself, just on things for the house and on the children when they were younger. They are grown up now and independent, thankfully.

He's always had bad moods, and he shouts at me, even in public, if he thinks I've done something wrong. I'm never sure what it is that I've done wrong until he explains it to me and, even then, I really can't understand what I actually did wrong.

He sulks, sometimes for days at a time and has locked himself in the spare room to do so in the past. He used to bang around and punch walls and doors but he's not done that for ages. He has been diagnosed with a personality disorder in later life but he denies having it and says that I'm actually the 'mental' one. He made me go to a psychiatrist to prove that I was 'mental' so I went twice and the psychiatrist discharged me with a letter for my GP saying that I had no diagnosable mental illness or something like that. I wish I had kept a copy but I didn't.

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PerplexedWife · 20/05/2021 15:29

I am starting to think that I can't stay with my husband but I feel trapped because we have a small business that my son and his wife run from here and they also have a caravan on our garden so they are always on site. If I divorce my husband our son and his wife will lose their home and their business and that is weighing heavily on me.

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cordeliavorkosigan · 20/05/2021 15:33

But you can't live this way for the next 20 years so your son doesn't have to move!! I'm sure your son would not want that.
Sounds like you need to get out. We only have the one life and you deserve a better one than this for the next decades.

PerplexedWife · 20/05/2021 15:36

I know cordelia but I don't want to wreck my son's business when it has only just started to succeed and making them homeless would feel absolutely awful. I couldn't buy another house with the room that they'd need and PP for their caravan etc if we sold up and got half the equity each. We've still got a small mortgage too which we took out for essential repairs.

I just feel defeated and very lonely.

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OnTheHuntForAHome · 20/05/2021 16:02

I'm guessing your children know what your husband (their dad) is like?

PerplexedWife · 20/05/2021 16:07

Yes, they do and they don’t like him very much since they’ve grown up. He accuses all three of us of hating him and says I’ve turned them away from him but I didn’t need to do that because he did it himself.

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PerplexedWife · 20/05/2021 16:10

Sorry, not sure if I can edit posts? I meant to say that they sometimes worry about me when they know my husband is in one of his rages and my daughter always checks on me to see if I’m ok. I hate feeling as though I’m burdening them with my problems because it’s not fair on them.

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Mojoj · 20/05/2021 16:16

Go see a lawyer and find out where you stand. BUT, in the meantime, try your best to stand up to him. You know he's controlling you. You recognise it. So, don't let him. Eat the amount of food you want. Go to bed when you choose. Great if he sulks - you'll get some peace! Good luck.

Anordinarymum · 20/05/2021 16:17

Sometimes when I read threads like this it makes me very sad and I can't offer any advice so I read and leave.
All I can do is to answer your initial question OP and that is to say 'yes you are in an abusive relationship'.
It won't change unless you do something about it and it will probably get worse. I wish I could help you.

Aquamarine1029 · 20/05/2021 16:22

You may not feel you can leave him right now, but you can absolutely refuse to be controlled anymore. If he has a tantrum, let him. If he sulks for days, good for him. Stop this cycle of control right now. If you need to say Fuck Off, then do so.

PerplexedWife · 20/05/2021 16:27

Thank you so much everyone for your kind words 😊 I really appreciate them. I think I have to work out what to do to get out of this situation without causing too many problems for other people, although not my husband, I no longer care about him I’ve finally realised. It’s helping me to write it all down I think.

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 20/05/2021 17:27

If you have a good relationship with your son and daughter in law, and you trust them implicitly, can you have a frank conversation with you privately that will stay between the three of you, telling them what has happened and how it's escalated and lean on them for some support?

I would be devastated if my mum was feeling the way you do right now and felt she couldn't tell me for fear of the impact on me as an adult Thanks

wewereliars · 20/05/2021 17:45

Hi OP I'm sure that your son would not want you to be unhappy, and you deserve to be happy.

You're describing a bullying personality here and the boiling frog analogy is very apt. Your husband is showing you no love, care or even respect and you can have a much happier life without him.

It is hard to leave a long relationship, I did it this year, and I am in my fifties, after nearly 30 years.
My ex did everything he could to make leaving hard because being miserable and horrible to me and the children suited him just fine. I decided one day that I wanted a shot at happiness and I took one step at a time to make that happen. It was hard but I would do it all again without hesitation

I have now bought a new house,and can't wait to start my new chapter. You can get out OP, seek legal advice, assess your options and gather some real life support around you.Once you've made the decision you will not look back Flowers

SpeedRunParent · 21/05/2021 09:25

Divorce him, your children with be thrilled.

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